Original Posted By: "Mark M"
There was a discussion about cutting your own cap strips a little while ago andI am a little confused. I have read the circular on selecting wood and and nowtotally lost. My vocabulary is limited to whatyamacallits and thingamajigs.Reason being,I lucked in to about 20 BF of spruce for $10.00 and was going toget started while waiting for my order to arrive. After I cut my capstripswhich way should the grain be running. Please check the drawing and let me know.ThanksMarkRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/file ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another rib question
Pietenpol-List: Another rib question
Original Posted By: Ben Charvet
I am plotting out the 612 rib and while looking at various photos of previous ribsmade i see that some have vertical supports along the spars and some do not.The Pietenpol original wing plan does not have them, with the attachment pointbeing nails along the top and bottom of the spar. Does having them makeinstallation easier later on? I would like to not have the extra pound or twoof wood if they are not necessary. Just trying to see the logic in the variousmethods.ThanksMarkRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 15:05:05 -0400
I am plotting out the 612 rib and while looking at various photos of previous ribsmade i see that some have vertical supports along the spars and some do not.The Pietenpol original wing plan does not have them, with the attachment pointbeing nails along the top and bottom of the spar. Does having them makeinstallation easier later on? I would like to not have the extra pound or twoof wood if they are not necessary. Just trying to see the logic in the variousmethods.ThanksMarkRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 15:05:05 -0400
Pietenpol-List: Re: Another rib question
Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
I'll bet it does. I'm not looking for a super slick wet look. I got semi-gloss.if it will just lay down smooth I'll be happy. I have already got it in Stittsthrough Poly-spray and flying it some. always did plan to do a finish coat onthe wings and tail.the fuse is Red now. but will do a cream-white flying surfaces.RaymondRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another rib question
I'll bet it does. I'm not looking for a super slick wet look. I got semi-gloss.if it will just lay down smooth I'll be happy. I have already got it in Stittsthrough Poly-spray and flying it some. always did plan to do a finish coat onthe wings and tail.the fuse is Red now. but will do a cream-white flying surfaces.RaymondRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another rib question
Original Posted By: gliderx5(at)comcast.net
Mark,I am a new guy, like you , and am just getting started on my ribs. I have chosenthe Riblett 613.5 airfoil. My apologies to all of the traditionalists, but Ithink that Lowell Frank and others have done a good job of convincing me to gowith a Riblett airfoil. The original wing ribs did not have the brace behindthe main spar and the additional vertical brace in front of the rear spar, butit seems that a lot of people have introduced them to the design as an improvement.Once you add the bracing/cables, it makes for a good design addition.I have added it, and you might consider doing so as well.--------Semper Fi,TerryRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 01:40:18 +0000 (UTC)
Mark,I am a new guy, like you , and am just getting started on my ribs. I have chosenthe Riblett 613.5 airfoil. My apologies to all of the traditionalists, but Ithink that Lowell Frank and others have done a good job of convincing me to gowith a Riblett airfoil. The original wing ribs did not have the brace behindthe main spar and the additional vertical brace in front of the rear spar, butit seems that a lot of people have introduced them to the design as an improvement.Once you add the bracing/cables, it makes for a good design addition.I have added it, and you might consider doing so as well.--------Semper Fi,TerryRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 01:40:18 +0000 (UTC)
Pietenpol-List: Re: Another rib question
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Mark,The thingie should align with the whatzit. :)Seriously though, for the wing ribs, the grain orientation isn't critical. Either"A" or "B" should be fine. More important than grain orientation is the grainrunout. Make sure the grain slope is no more than 1:15 (preferably even less)or you may end up with broken ribs.The grain orientation in "B" should be slightly easier to curve for the top capstrip.That's how I did mine.Now, if you're talking about spars, "B" is the only acceptable grain orientation.Start cutting.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another rib question
Mark,The thingie should align with the whatzit. :)Seriously though, for the wing ribs, the grain orientation isn't critical. Either"A" or "B" should be fine. More important than grain orientation is the grainrunout. Make sure the grain slope is no more than 1:15 (preferably even less)or you may end up with broken ribs.The grain orientation in "B" should be slightly easier to curve for the top capstrip.That's how I did mine.Now, if you're talking about spars, "B" is the only acceptable grain orientation.Start cutting.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another rib question
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]"
Regarding the Pietenpol rib design, the original plans do not show the verticaluprights adjacent to the spars, but the full-size template (as provided by thePietenpol family) DOES have them. I believe that BHP added them to the designlater, to make the wings easier to assemble. Some builders opt to put uprightson either side of each spar (4 uprights), but this can make assembly more difficult,since the spar is "trapped" between the two sticks.Logic would indicate that adding a single upright at each spar is a good idea.The extra Spruce will account for approximately 3/4 of a pound added to the totalweight of the airplane.To the best of my knowledge, there is only one Air Camper currently flying witha Riblett airfoil, but it sure sounds as though there are a lot of ribs beingbuilt. It will be interesting to see how many get airborne in the coming years.Perhaps then we will be able to better determine how this alternate airfoilcompares with the original Pietenpol airfoil.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Regarding the Pietenpol rib design, the original plans do not show the verticaluprights adjacent to the spars, but the full-size template (as provided by thePietenpol family) DOES have them. I believe that BHP added them to the designlater, to make the wings easier to assemble. Some builders opt to put uprightson either side of each spar (4 uprights), but this can make assembly more difficult,since the spar is "trapped" between the two sticks.Logic would indicate that adding a single upright at each spar is a good idea.The extra Spruce will account for approximately 3/4 of a pound added to the totalweight of the airplane.To the best of my knowledge, there is only one Air Camper currently flying witha Riblett airfoil, but it sure sounds as though there are a lot of ribs beingbuilt. It will be interesting to see how many get airborne in the coming years.Perhaps then we will be able to better determine how this alternate airfoilcompares with the original Pietenpol airfoil.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: which airplane will perform better ?
Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: which airplane will perform better ?Q: The one with the Riblett or Pietenpol wing ?A: The plane that has the lightest empty weight.(surely an oversimplification but you get my drift.)________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: which airplane will perform better ?
Subject: Pietenpol-List: which airplane will perform better ?Q: The one with the Riblett or Pietenpol wing ?A: The plane that has the lightest empty weight.(surely an oversimplification but you get my drift.)________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: which airplane will perform better ?
Original Posted By: JOSEPH SWITHIN
The one who pays for the test...--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:47:39 -0700 (PDT)
The one who pays for the test...--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:47:39 -0700 (PDT)
Pietenpol-List: Re: which airplane will perform better ?
Original Posted By: "Jack"
You will be amazed, when he who has one and lets you see for yourself.Pieti LowellSince 2004 on my 612Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
You will be amazed, when he who has one and lets you see for yourself.Pieti LowellSince 2004 on my 612Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: which airplane will perform better ?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Mike which one is stuffed with helium filled ping pong balls?JackDSM _____
Mike which one is stuffed with helium filled ping pong balls?JackDSM _____
Pietenpol-List: Re: looking for information
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... OTORS:1123 JackDSM________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: looking for information
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... OTORS:1123 JackDSM________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: looking for information