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Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Movin onWell its finally happened its official, NX895JR has made the transition from basement folly "ship in a bottle" to her new home. Last night we slid her through the basement mandoor of her birthplace at 635 South Broad Street Lititz without incident or complication on to my trailer. After a short comfortable 4 mile ride we arrived at Lancaster airport LNS and moved her into her new home 5-5. Last night was her first night there with all those of her own kind, well remote winged relatives Rvs and such. No real family members on field though and none named Piet. Ill be going over soon to see how her first night went , first night with out people around to see how she did.JohnSent via DROID on Verizon Wireless________________________________________________________________________________
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Great news John! Its good that the hanger is so close to home.I have mostly been working on my engine which is still at home. I plan on movingmy project out to the hanger when I get back from Corvair College 20. I'm readyto hang the wings and put on the motor mount. I need to get the corvair blockout of the basement and on an engine stand before I add any more weight. Plusthe engine stand will make it easier to mount the cylinders and pistons. WhenI get back from CC 20, I should have most of what I need to finish up theengine. I hope to have it running by mid-summer.Regards,Rick Schreiber----- Original Message -----
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Original Posted By: "Douwe Blumberg"
Yippie!.. What a coincidence!..congratz on the move... I will be moving my GN-1to Lancaster airport as well! They (KLNC) called me yesterday to let me knowthat a T-Hangar is available. Just signed the lease today. I guess the long waitfor hangar space finally came thru. I have to head out overseas on a trip,but plan to trailer her out there around June 12th. I promised the family a summervacation early June. I'll be chomping at the bit during said "vacation"...LarryRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscf ... __________
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Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
That stuff the RV guys use is great - can't recall the name exactly - Jack can jump in to remind us - but you can't brush it on, no. It's thick like silicone. Best you'd get is a smear. -- Dan Yocumyocum137(at)gmail.com"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."On May 28, 2011, at 3:00 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" wrote:> Hey all,> > > > My aluminum tank is pretty much done. I THINK I got all the leaks as it won=99t leak with fuel under pressure, but> > > > Just to be completely sure, I=99m going to seal the seams on the outside and wondered what would be a good sealant that I could brush on. A friend used something like proseal and said it worked great, but I=99m wondering if that is too thick to brush.> > > > Any thoughts??> > > > Douwe> > > ============================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Movin on
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Dang, I'll bet you guys did have fun. Not only is Jim well versed in Pietenpollore, he's just a lot of fun to be around. Love the drill bit photos... you definitely know he's been there. Ha!--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Movin on
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Original Posted By: "TriScout"
Speaking of California, I'm sitting in Room 107 of the Econo Lodgein Fallbrook, California typing this. About halfway to our new homein Oregon, so far so good. No airplane with me this time though.Boy was I shocked to see a Tri-Pacer taking off in about 30-35 MPHgusty winds from an airpark somewhere around Eloy, Arizona yesterday.In the Piet, I would have been worried about having enough fuel toreturn to the field after turning downwind ;o)The Econo Lodge in Fallbrook is very close to the airport here... Isaw what I thought was a Mooney Mite landing yesterday but it wasprobably my eyes deceiving me. And they say that the Fallbrookairport is sort of like a carrier deck... on a mesa with dropoffsat both ends.Jim: all of my tools are still in Texas and the hangar is locked, sodon't bother coming up to visit or hunt for tools until I get everythingmoved to Oregon ;o)Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"San Antonio, TX (soon to be Eagle Point, Oregon)website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Movin on
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Original Posted By: "TOM STINEMETZE"
Damn non-Piet people probably wouldn't even point you towards the closest pond. Ugh.Glad to hear Fat Bottomed Girl is once more winging her way through the Texas skies. I can definitely second the testimonial regarding the Wesemans....I've only emailed with Dan, but he was always good to deal with. I had the pleasure of meeting Rhonda and Jim at Brodhead....last year or the year before, and they were both very nice people.Maybe a light bead of RTV on the pan gasket?On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 5:45 PM, kevinpurtee wrote:il>While I was flying in January, Fat Bottomed Girl ate an exhaust valve. -With the plane down hard I took the opportunity to add the 5th bearing. -I've already mentioned all this. -This is what I've learned in the process of making the repairs/changes:- The state-of-the-art valve job has given me another 100 rpm. -Nothing else changed except for adding the 5th bearing,- Installing the 5th bearing was fussy. -The Wesemans were great. -Nice people and great support. -So far it seems to work fine. -I'm hoping I didn't screw up the install! -Will know soon enough,- I have the stock oil pan and it has always had a small leak at the back. -Now I have a small leak at the front where the new front cover attaches. -Not much oil but messy. -I'm trying to solve that.- I have better instrumentation now then I've ever had. -One of the concerns with the 5th bearing is oil pressure. -Some people install high volume pumps. -Once I muddled through some gauge drama the pressure numbers proved to be in spec, though on the low end.- I actually know my oil temperature now. -Not sure I had a good handle with the previous setup. -It gets a little warm on extended climbs on these 100 degree days, but nothing unusual. -Again, in spec.Central Tx has had an extremely windy spring. -The weather called for winds gusting to less than 25 today so I played hooky and went and flew. -2.2 hours. -Made me feel better. -Been frustrating not flying for the past several months.Subject change & rant: I watch the corvaircraft list. -I've posted or been mentioned there a handful of times. -In all cases I've been met with deafening silence. -Any responses I get are off list from my Piet friends. -Ironically, a dude asked the same question today that I asked a few weeks ago. -Silence for me, answers for him. -Given that I've got more corvair flight time than probably 98% of the people on that list, that's pretty frustrating. -My point? -Piet people are great and I appreciate my friends here. -At least you'll talk to me!Axel--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeNX899KPAustin/Georgetown, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 7#341657st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet ... nics.comle, List Admin.="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution__ ... ______Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 08:19:36 -0500
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Original Posted By: "TriScout"
I wish they would get me more information about the times, parts and tools neededand some kind of agenda. I am assuming it starts friday morning at 8?--------JohnRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Movin on
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Original Posted By: "Charles Campbell"
Thanks Jim...Got it! DL Grammont and Tom Travis. I will definately do that! Speaking of CAP,My hangar row will have me taxiing right past the CAP hanger whenever I go flying.I'll have to pop in there... LarryRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: kevinpurtee
Kevin,Good to hear she is back in the air.Keep us update on your 5th bearing.My oil temp has always been in the 200 + rangeIt hits 220 on extended climb outsBut usually settles around 210.Nothing really alarming, I just read every where it should be around 185.Changed cauges last year, thinking it could be the cauge but both read the same.Then switched oil cooler bypass valve without effect.Removed oil cooler (folded fin) this winter and soaked and cleaned it multiple times to remove any blockage.Altough some gunk was removed, oil temps are still in the 200+ range.All the while CHT's are in the 350 range even on hot 100+ daysAnd oil pressure is good at 45 Psi.Oil remains relativly clean, not burned.Next step would be to remove rear assesory case and check gasket there, oilcooler could be being bypassed due to faulty gasket.Then again it could just be the normal oil temparature for hot Texas days.HansNX15KV-----Original Message-----
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Axel, glad to hear someone is using stock oil pan. I have been seriously considering going stock, also. Just wondering if oil temperature is any problem with the stock pan (less oil volume). Comments? Chuck ----- Original Message -----
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Original Posted By: "TOM STINEMETZE"
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Original Posted By: "TOM STINEMETZE"
AWESOME...... I've got all those LG parts yet to build so I'm envious...!--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 13:27:22 -0500
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Original Posted By: "Richard Schreiber"
Ryan - Yeah, there's *a little* bead of RTV around the oil pan... I've redonethat thing 6 times now. Maybe that's why they won't talk to me on corvaircraft.Hans - I think it's just really freakin' hot, as you know, since you live an houreast. It hit 230 on an extended climb yesterday. I was intentionally climbinghard and slow. Cruise floats around 210. CHTs are steady at 350 max. OilPSI is steady 38 when she's warm. I bounced those numbers off WW and he didn'tobject. They also jive pretty close with Dan Weseman's recommendations.Chuck - I think the oil temperature is high because it's 100+ degrees in centralTX. If I had not built the engine and mount prior to the availability of thehigh volume oil pan, I would have used the high volume oil pan and modifiedthe mount to accommodate. It wasn't an option at the time.Jim - I had trouble getting the hub dialed in until I figured out the correct technique.It's entirely possible that I'm simply an idiot (another reason theydon't talk to me on corvaircraft). BTW: I will happily share what I learnedin that process with anyone who's installing a DW 5th bearing. Call me. WithGod's permission, Jim, I will indeed see you at Brodhead.Thank you all for talking to me. I'm sensitive.Love,Axel--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeNX899KPAustin/Georgetown, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By:> kevinpurtee
Kevin:I'm interested in your oil system trials and tribulations. I can't rememberwhat you were using for an oil cooler. My current plan is to go with astock 12 plate cooler in the stock location. I was also going to go with astock oil pan or maybe modify a stock oil pan to hold more. Since I amgoing to CC 20 in a couple of days I may just opt for a custom one from WW.As for your oil temp sending unit, where did you mount it?Regards,Rick Schreiber> [Original Message]
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Original Posted By: "Jerry Dotson"
Hi Rick - I use a 12 plate cooler. I don't think I have a temperature problem,but I'm pretty sure I had a temperature measuring problem. The oil temp senderwas originally installed in the stock oil filter mount thingy. I replacedthat with WW's gold oil system oil filter adapter to provide a pressure sourceto feed oil to the 5th bearing. A side benefit is that my oil pressure and tempinstrumentation is much better.I ran into a problem with oil pressure sensing last week. WW and Matt Wash (alurker on this list) advised me to T in a mechanical gauge and rule out the failureof my electrical gauge. They were right - my electric gauge failed. I'vesince replaced it and the new one jives with the mechanical gauge and readsthe way you would expect it to.I think WW's oil pan is the way to go. It provides a much nicer sealing surfaceas compared to my 47 year old oil pan/skid plate. I'm surprised the thing sealsas well as it does.I wish I could go to CC20. That'll be money in the bank for you, I'm sure.Hope this helps.Kevin--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeNX899KPAustin/Georgetown, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair Engine Update
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Original Posted By: "Charles Campbell"
Kevin,There is a product LOCTITE-515 that I used to seal the crankcase on my LycomingO-235. It seals metal to metal with no gasket. It is approved by Lycoming perService Instruction No. 1125D. It might work on your fussy oil pan. I made asample from aluminum scraps and it really bonded good. I was impressed.LOCTITE 515 cures when confined in the absence of airbetween close fitting metal surfaces. It seals close fitting jointsbetween rigid metal faces and flanges and will flex with minorflange movements.Directions for use1. For best performance bond surfaces should be clean andfree from grease2. The product is designed for close fitting flanged parts withgaps up to 0.25 mm3. Apply manually as a continuous bead or by screenprinting to one surface of the flanges4. Low pressures (--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rollingusing Lycoming O-235Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: "kevinpurtee"
Kevin, I have ordered the Weseman 5th bearing and it should be coming any day now. Dan's dad did the black hub and I got it back last week. When the time comes I'll surely give you a call. I think the advice of someone who has already accomplished the job will be very welcome. Of course, I understand that Dan is very helpful when you need it. Chuck----- Original Message -----
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Tom congratulations on the gear redo! It looks great and I know thedetermination it took to do it right.Way to go!JackDSM _____
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Original Posted By: shad bell
Hi Piets... nice to see that there are to many friends on the list...About this picture, i don't sure but it looks like the Gary Gower'plane from Chapala Mexico, maybe he still (like me) is monitoring the list .Good LandingsJavier cruz________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 22:35:29 -0700 (PDT)
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> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair Engine Update>>> Ryan - Yeah, there's *a little* bead of RTV around the oil pan... I'veredone that thing 6 times now. Maybe that's why they won't talk to me oncorvaircraft.>> Hans - I think it's just really freakin' hot, as you know, since you livean hour east. It hit 230 on an extended climb yesterday. I wasintentionally climbing hard and slow. Cruise floats around 210. CHTs aresteady at 350 max. Oil PSI is steady 38 when she's warm. I bounced thosenumbers off WW and he didn't object. They also jive pretty close with DanWeseman's recommendations.>> Chuck - I think the oil temperature is high because it's 100+ degrees incentral TX. If I had not built the engine and mount prior to theavailability of the high volume oil pan, I would have used the high volumeoil pan and modified the mount to accommodate. It wasn't an option at thetime.>> Jim - I had trouble getting the hub dialed in until I figured out thecorrect technique. It's entirely possible that I'm simply an idiot(another reason they don't talk to me on corvaircraft). BTW: I willhappily share what I learned in that process with anyone who's installing aDW 5th bearing. Call me. With God's permission, Jim, I will indeed seeyou at Brodhead.>> Thank you all for talking to me. I'm sensitive.>> Love,> Axel>> --------> Kevin "Axel" Purtee> NX899KP> Austin/Georgetown, TX>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 768#341768>>> -----> No virus found in this message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 16:51:32 -0400
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