Original Posted By: "bender"
Excellent! I feel better knowing that my thinking wasn't too far off... I justneed to grab some scrap and practice making a few bends. Without a hydraulicpress and proper dies, it seems that these require a little grunt work no matterwhich approach is used. Thanks a lot for the input fellas!--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: A ignition
Pietenpol-List: A ignition
Original Posted By: Jim Boyer
I've been working away... elevators connected.. tail all braced up..making a couple of pulley brackets for the ailerons.. and all the while tryingto find the right engine partsthere are no dual plug model a heads out there.... snyders is working on it butno idea when they are coming.. even the single plug heads out there are hardto come byso i can get a Thomas aluminum head... and i'm thinking about the corvair ignitionidea..ie; dual point distributor..two coils...double throw switch and the msd coil switcher..i'm guessing its been reliable on the corvairthe other option is the single magnetoi just happen to be friends with the president of champion aviation.. and don'twant to take advantage but i've been offered a new slick magneto if i want one....he wants a prop for his office... maybe i could carve a practice piet propin trade..seems a lot of A piets have a single ignition...and i'm sure its great but thedual point distributor thing would be really easy.. and maybe lighterany thoughtsjeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 19:13:34 +0000 (UTC)
I've been working away... elevators connected.. tail all braced up..making a couple of pulley brackets for the ailerons.. and all the while tryingto find the right engine partsthere are no dual plug model a heads out there.... snyders is working on it butno idea when they are coming.. even the single plug heads out there are hardto come byso i can get a Thomas aluminum head... and i'm thinking about the corvair ignitionidea..ie; dual point distributor..two coils...double throw switch and the msd coil switcher..i'm guessing its been reliable on the corvairthe other option is the single magnetoi just happen to be friends with the president of champion aviation.. and don'twant to take advantage but i've been offered a new slick magneto if i want one....he wants a prop for his office... maybe i could carve a practice piet propin trade..seems a lot of A piets have a single ignition...and i'm sure its great but thedual point distributor thing would be really easy.. and maybe lighterany thoughtsjeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 19:13:34 +0000 (UTC)
Re: Pietenpol-List: A ignition
Original Posted By: bender
Jeff,I would vote for the free mag in exchange for the practice prop. Not that I think the dual point idea is bad, but maybe you could do both. For me, carving my prop was the most challenging and rewarding part of the whole construction process. It is something I thought was initially beyond the realm of my ability, but like most other phases of the build, it is just a matter of putting one foot ahead of the other, and slugging through it. Sure, I could have finished and flown a few months earlier, but learning new things was a big part of the reason I had for building the airplane in the first place. (Gary B. please weigh-in.)FYI I am again re-thinking my 2nd ignition source. I am looking into the WICO mag that drops down into the distributor hole in the "A", (a-la Larry Williams from a few years ago.) No battery, no coil, no distributor or points, or electronic ignition module. Haven't made up my mind....all I know for sure is, that I want, in the worst way to fly to Brodhead with the one mag I have now.Dan HelsperPuryear, TN -----Original Message-----
Jeff,I would vote for the free mag in exchange for the practice prop. Not that I think the dual point idea is bad, but maybe you could do both. For me, carving my prop was the most challenging and rewarding part of the whole construction process. It is something I thought was initially beyond the realm of my ability, but like most other phases of the build, it is just a matter of putting one foot ahead of the other, and slugging through it. Sure, I could have finished and flown a few months earlier, but learning new things was a big part of the reason I had for building the airplane in the first place. (Gary B. please weigh-in.)FYI I am again re-thinking my 2nd ignition source. I am looking into the WICO mag that drops down into the distributor hole in the "A", (a-la Larry Williams from a few years ago.) No battery, no coil, no distributor or points, or electronic ignition module. Haven't made up my mind....all I know for sure is, that I want, in the worst way to fly to Brodhead with the one mag I have now.Dan HelsperPuryear, TN -----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: A ignition
Original Posted By: Paul Jaffray
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A ignition
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A ignition
Re: Pietenpol-List: A ignition
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
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Pietenpol-List: Re: A ignition
Original Posted By: "Billy McCaskill"
pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net wrote:> Try reading Tony Bingelis' books. He explains in infinite detail exactly> how to do it. This is true for 99% of the questions you will have as you> build your Pietenpol.> > Jack Phillips> NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia> > --Ill do that... I've got his books, but must have overlooked that part, or perhapsI just forgot.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A ignition
pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net wrote:> Try reading Tony Bingelis' books. He explains in infinite detail exactly> how to do it. This is true for 99% of the questions you will have as you> build your Pietenpol.> > Jack Phillips> NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia> > --Ill do that... I've got his books, but must have overlooked that part, or perhapsI just forgot.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A ignition
Pietenpol-List: Re: Flying again
Original Posted By: "Billy McCaskill"
I guess your decision pretty much rests on 2 basic thoughts... 1) do you want abattery and alternator (more weight and complexity) and a more elaborate electricalsystem that is untried on a Model A and will require some fabrication andexperimentation, and 2) do you want a simpler, lighter, more proven, more period-correctignition system that probably won't require as much experimentationand testing? Ultimately it is your plane and your decision, you just haveto weigh the options carefully and choose the system that will best meet yourrequirements.--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flying again
I guess your decision pretty much rests on 2 basic thoughts... 1) do you want abattery and alternator (more weight and complexity) and a more elaborate electricalsystem that is untried on a Model A and will require some fabrication andexperimentation, and 2) do you want a simpler, lighter, more proven, more period-correctignition system that probably won't require as much experimentationand testing? Ultimately it is your plane and your decision, you just haveto weigh the options carefully and choose the system that will best meet yourrequirements.--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flying again
Original Posted By: "Clif Dawson"
I'll be there again this year with my camera, and would be happy to take some picturesfor you Kevin/Shad, or anyone else. I'd even be willing to do some aerialphotography of group or formation flights or whatever. (This is my way of begging for rides!) [Wink]--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I'll be there again this year with my camera, and would be happy to take some picturesfor you Kevin/Shad, or anyone else. I'd even be willing to do some aerialphotography of group or formation flights or whatever. (This is my way of begging for rides!) [Wink]--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: A ignition
Original Posted By: shad bell
Shad, I am in the process of building up a Corvair (waiting on a Weseman 5th bearing right now.) I was planning to alternate using the two ignition systems -- check the A side during warmup, then check B side and use B for the flight. Next time reverse the action. Do you alternate or use one side all the time? ----- Original Message -----
Shad, I am in the process of building up a Corvair (waiting on a Weseman 5th bearing right now.) I was planning to alternate using the two ignition systems -- check the A side during warmup, then check B side and use B for the flight. Next time reverse the action. Do you alternate or use one side all the time? ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: A ignition
Original Posted By: "bender"
Shad,Ed and I are still planning to attend, weather permitting.Skip________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A ignition
Shad,Ed and I are still planning to attend, weather permitting.Skip________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A ignition
Re: Pietenpol-List: A ignition
Original Posted By: BRETT PHILLIPS
i need a battery already..... and planning on something as small as possible...like the odyssey batteries.. so that is not a factor to me.i don't really see the dual point distributor as experimental exactly...and i'mlooking at a new mallory with mechanical advance or even the FSI electronic distributor....bothwork on a cars all day long..i like the points idea for the fact that points distributors usually don't justquit...they start acting up but don't just stop.. electronic on the other handjust die.i believe the weight of the mallory is a lot less than a slick mag and the mount..the battery already needed as a transponder is required here.the slick would probably last... hmmjeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 14:26:01 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A ignition
i need a battery already..... and planning on something as small as possible...like the odyssey batteries.. so that is not a factor to me.i don't really see the dual point distributor as experimental exactly...and i'mlooking at a new mallory with mechanical advance or even the FSI electronic distributor....bothwork on a cars all day long..i like the points idea for the fact that points distributors usually don't justquit...they start acting up but don't just stop.. electronic on the other handjust die.i believe the weight of the mallory is a lot less than a slick mag and the mount..the battery already needed as a transponder is required here.the slick would probably last... hmmjeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 14:26:01 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A ignition
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: A ignition
Original Posted By: bender
Hi Jeff,I weighed my Slick mag= about 5 lbs. if memory serves.Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
Hi Jeff,I weighed my Slick mag= about 5 lbs. if memory serves.Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: A ignition
Original Posted By: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP
Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine question
Original Posted By: "Jack"
Price?--------Semper Fi,TerryRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Price?--------Semper Fi,TerryRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Engine question
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Ken,I'm NOT an authority on engines but think Lycomings in general are moreexpensive to maintain. I will send you a name off list of a fantasticfellow that can answer all your questions.JackDSM _____
Ken,I'm NOT an authority on engines but think Lycomings in general are moreexpensive to maintain. I will send you a name off list of a fantasticfellow that can answer all your questions.JackDSM _____
Pietenpol-List: Re: A ignition
Original Posted By: Oscar Zuniga
the battery already needed as a transponder is required here. Jeff,Check the regs - if you don't have an electrical system, you're grandfathered in(like Cubs and Champs - assuming you're in the US).Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
the battery already needed as a transponder is required here. Jeff,Check the regs - if you don't have an electrical system, you're grandfathered in(like Cubs and Champs - assuming you're in the US).Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________