Re: Pietenpol-List: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet?
Re: Pietenpol-List: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet?
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Pietenpol-List: Re: Welding Tabs On Aluminum Struts
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
Michael,As has been mentioned many times before, welding aluminum usually will weaken thematerial in the weld zone. Specific alloys are affected differently, but inthe case of 6061, the strength gets reduced as much as 40% within 1" of the weld.You probably don't want to be weakening your lift struts.I would say that welding tabs to your aluminum struts would be classified as a"bad" idea. Mechanical fastening should be fairly easy to do neatly.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 08:48:41 -0500
Michael,As has been mentioned many times before, welding aluminum usually will weaken thematerial in the weld zone. Specific alloys are affected differently, but inthe case of 6061, the strength gets reduced as much as 40% within 1" of the weld.You probably don't want to be weakening your lift struts.I would say that welding tabs to your aluminum struts would be classified as a"bad" idea. Mechanical fastening should be fairly easy to do neatly.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 08:48:41 -0500
Re: Pietenpol-List: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet?
Original Posted By: Owen Davies
Pietenpol-List: Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet?
Original Posted By: "rvanengen"
Aircraft Spruce has them for sale if you cannot find any to borrow-http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/t ... 2.phpThese guys appear to rent them-http://www.hangartoolbox.com/Tools/Cyli ... e.aspxHope that helps.[/u]--------Semper Fi,TerryRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet?
Aircraft Spruce has them for sale if you cannot find any to borrow-http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/t ... 2.phpThese guys appear to rent them-http://www.hangartoolbox.com/Tools/Cyli ... e.aspxHope that helps.[/u]--------Semper Fi,TerryRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet?
Pietenpol-List: Re: Two Fuse Questions
Original Posted By: "lowell23(at)msn.com"
Both of my sons (age 3 and 6) are VERY eager to go up when the plane is done, onlyprecondition my wife has put is a BRS and seat belts. I like the idea ofa climbing harness, though!!
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Both of my sons (age 3 and 6) are VERY eager to go up when the plane is done, onlyprecondition my wife has put is a BRS and seat belts. I like the idea ofa climbing harness, though!!

Pietenpol-List: Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet?
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Very nice Chuck.......... the genuine grin says it all...............--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet?
Very nice Chuck.......... the genuine grin says it all...............--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet?
Original Posted By: Gene Rambo
I can vouch for Don's "5 Year Old" rule... although he is speaking of HIS kids,he took my son (Tyler) up at Brodhead when he was 5 years old. I think Tylerwill remember that forever... I know I will.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I can vouch for Don's "5 Year Old" rule... although he is speaking of HIS kids,he took my son (Tyler) up at Brodhead when he was 5 years old. I think Tylerwill remember that forever... I know I will.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
> Pietenpol-List: Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet?
Original Posted By:> EmchAir(at)aol.com
Please keep in mind=2C while you are making it impossible to unbuckle and get out=2C if there was an accident=2C I would never want to think that they could not unbuckle and get out of a burning airplane if I was incapacitated. The first time we took Will flying in the Travel Air=2C at around 3=2C he was trying to get out to wingwalk "like Waldo" (his favorite movie!). Thank goodness it has a two-place front seat and Karen was there to prevent it. My personal vote would be that if the child is young enough for you to be afraid they might unbuckle and get out=2C they are too young to fly alone. No one should ever be constrained so that they could not escape.My 2 cents=2CGene> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet?
Please keep in mind=2C while you are making it impossible to unbuckle and get out=2C if there was an accident=2C I would never want to think that they could not unbuckle and get out of a burning airplane if I was incapacitated. The first time we took Will flying in the Travel Air=2C at around 3=2C he was trying to get out to wingwalk "like Waldo" (his favorite movie!). Thank goodness it has a two-place front seat and Karen was there to prevent it. My personal vote would be that if the child is young enough for you to be afraid they might unbuckle and get out=2C they are too young to fly alone. No one should ever be constrained so that they could not escape.My 2 cents=2CGene> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet?
RE: Pietenpol-List: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet?
Original Posted By:> yocum(at)fnal.gov
as for the statement about me=2C nope=2C he JUST turned 7. he has been flying in the Travel Air since 3. By himself at 6. Going to the fly-in next weekend at Matt Paxton's alone with me=2C first time.> Date: Fri=2C 10 Jun 2011 08:48:41 -0500
as for the statement about me=2C nope=2C he JUST turned 7. he has been flying in the Travel Air since 3. By himself at 6. Going to the fly-in next weekend at Matt Paxton's alone with me=2C first time.> Date: Fri=2C 10 Jun 2011 08:48:41 -0500
Pietenpol-List: Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet?
Original Posted By: "Billy McCaskill"
I was at the Frasca Fly-In at Urbana, IL today, and saw and orange WACO bipe flyin with a child car seat strapped into the front cockpit. I wasn't close enoughto see if there was a child in the car seat or not. But as Gene mentioned,I'd be worried about getting them out if something appened...--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet?
I was at the Frasca Fly-In at Urbana, IL today, and saw and orange WACO bipe flyin with a child car seat strapped into the front cockpit. I wasn't close enoughto see if there was a child in the car seat or not. But as Gene mentioned,I'd be worried about getting them out if something appened...--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet?
Original Posted By: Gene Rambo
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> > > Steve=2C> > Weaning off of sleep is really a good method... just quitting cold turkey=2C not so good. It took me about three years to really be weaned. I find that my airplane time needs to be when Gretchen and the 4 kiddos would rather be sleeping. Ryan loves to help me so that does help the situation. But for the most part my prime airplane working time seems to be early morning=2C which unfortunately means waking up around 3:30-4:00. But when you have an addiction likes this...ya gotta do what ya gotta do...> > As far as the kids flying=2C the older 3 so far have had their very first airplane ride in the Piet at the age of 5. Momma didn't really know about the first one until after=2C which was probably best. For the next two we agreed on 5 years old. Abbey who is 4 is begging. Now that I have the Chief we might have to break the 5 rule. I never have tried to use a car seat. One thing I was going to do was to make an extra harness to hold them in there just in case they got a crazy idea to unbuckle and try to climb out. I never did make it we just practiced and talked about it a lot! I've never had a problem. Although I wouldn't take another kid that young that I wasn't able to practice with a lot.> > All in all the kids love it. I have them in a rotation in my logbook for who gets to go next. Flying the kids out to breakfast and to flyins have been the absolute high point of my 20 years of flying!> > Don Emch> NX899DE> > P.S. Frank Pavliga used to fly with his kids in the back pit with him! YIKES!!!> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 614#342614> > > > > > > ============================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> > > Steve=2C> > Weaning off of sleep is really a good method... just quitting cold turkey=2C not so good. It took me about three years to really be weaned. I find that my airplane time needs to be when Gretchen and the 4 kiddos would rather be sleeping. Ryan loves to help me so that does help the situation. But for the most part my prime airplane working time seems to be early morning=2C which unfortunately means waking up around 3:30-4:00. But when you have an addiction likes this...ya gotta do what ya gotta do...> > As far as the kids flying=2C the older 3 so far have had their very first airplane ride in the Piet at the age of 5. Momma didn't really know about the first one until after=2C which was probably best. For the next two we agreed on 5 years old. Abbey who is 4 is begging. Now that I have the Chief we might have to break the 5 rule. I never have tried to use a car seat. One thing I was going to do was to make an extra harness to hold them in there just in case they got a crazy idea to unbuckle and try to climb out. I never did make it we just practiced and talked about it a lot! I've never had a problem. Although I wouldn't take another kid that young that I wasn't able to practice with a lot.> > All in all the kids love it. I have them in a rotation in my logbook for who gets to go next. Flying the kids out to breakfast and to flyins have been the absolute high point of my 20 years of flying!> > Don Emch> NX899DE> > P.S. Frank Pavliga used to fly with his kids in the back pit with him! YIKES!!!> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 614#342614> > > > > > > ============================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________