Original Posted By: "caldwrl"
Thanks Dick... We've been there a couple of times, so I can recall the generalparking and how it gets busy... I just can't recall how the drive in camping fillsup. We'll just drive that big thing out there and find a spot for it.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Get-together
Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Since Gary literally exposed me (but not much of my seat back), I thought I wouldweigh in and attempt to attach an image or two of my seat. I got much of myinspiration from the Bingelis books regarding the ergonomic needs of a bodysitting for a couple of hours with little ability to move about... sound familiar?I made my seat bottom and back removable (at this point of construction).The bottom merely sits in place and is contoured to give more support underthe thigh region. The back is curved 2" deep and is held in place by wood screwsand upholstery washers. The key to the curved back was laminating the crossmembers to a depth that would allow cutting the recess into them. The bottommember was cut 1" recess and as mentioned before, the top 2". The 1/8" basswoodply easily took the curve when inserted. Hope this helps... hope to see all at Brodhead. Look for my Stinson 108-3 wingingin on Friday, or perhaps Thursday, if weather permits.--------Robert CaldwellRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc0 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
Since Gary literally exposed me (but not much of my seat back), I thought I wouldweigh in and attempt to attach an image or two of my seat. I got much of myinspiration from the Bingelis books regarding the ergonomic needs of a bodysitting for a couple of hours with little ability to move about... sound familiar?I made my seat bottom and back removable (at this point of construction).The bottom merely sits in place and is contoured to give more support underthe thigh region. The back is curved 2" deep and is held in place by wood screwsand upholstery washers. The key to the curved back was laminating the crossmembers to a depth that would allow cutting the recess into them. The bottommember was cut 1" recess and as mentioned before, the top 2". The 1/8" basswoodply easily took the curve when inserted. Hope this helps... hope to see all at Brodhead. Look for my Stinson 108-3 wingingin on Friday, or perhaps Thursday, if weather permits.--------Robert CaldwellRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc0 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Skip,Clearly, my idea is not original. I hadn't seen it done before on a Piet, but likealmost any idea, it's probably been done at least once before. What made youdecide not to pursue the idea further?That's a kind offer. I cut out a few support pieces last night, so I think I'llbe okay to make my own. I'll know better over the next week or so whether mymethod will work or not.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
Skip,Clearly, my idea is not original. I hadn't seen it done before on a Piet, but likealmost any idea, it's probably been done at least once before. What made youdecide not to pursue the idea further?That's a kind offer. I cut out a few support pieces last night, so I think I'llbe okay to make my own. I'll know better over the next week or so whether mymethod will work or not.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
Original Posted By: "Jack"
Robert,Thanks for providing the photos. Looks good. You are doing some nice work there.Hope you didn't mind being "exposed".I see you made your seat bottom with slats. My original idea was to do the seatbottom and back using slats, just like the Adirondack chairs, but then thoughtit might get too heavy, so decided that plywood would be a better choice. Slatsis definitely easier than curving plywood.I'll look for you at Brodhead.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Robert,Thanks for providing the photos. Looks good. You are doing some nice work there.Hope you didn't mind being "exposed".I see you made your seat bottom with slats. My original idea was to do the seatbottom and back using slats, just like the Adirondack chairs, but then thoughtit might get too heavy, so decided that plywood would be a better choice. Slatsis definitely easier than curving plywood.I'll look for you at Brodhead.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Dick, that picture was taken from your front seat...thanks!JackDSM-----Original Message-----
Dick, that picture was taken from your front seat...thanks!JackDSM-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead Get-together
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
The aft seat bottom in my Piet is divided into three sections also. The centeris screwed down with aluminum dividers so things stored on either side can nottravel inboard and conflict with the cables. For aft inspections, I plan on using a technique I utilized on construction ofa Boredom Fighter where two zippers are sewn onto the bottom fabric and finishingtapes are applied during covering. Masking tape is applied over the teethduring covering and painting then when finished, the masking tape is removed,the zippers opened and the fabric cut with a razor blade. The end result isa triangular flap that can be zipped up during use and unzipped when wanting access.Worked very well with the Stitts process well see how the latex handlesit. Belly access.JPGRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/bell ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead Get-together
The aft seat bottom in my Piet is divided into three sections also. The centeris screwed down with aluminum dividers so things stored on either side can nottravel inboard and conflict with the cables. For aft inspections, I plan on using a technique I utilized on construction ofa Boredom Fighter where two zippers are sewn onto the bottom fabric and finishingtapes are applied during covering. Masking tape is applied over the teethduring covering and painting then when finished, the masking tape is removed,the zippers opened and the fabric cut with a razor blade. The end result isa triangular flap that can be zipped up during use and unzipped when wanting access.Worked very well with the Stitts process well see how the latex handlesit. Belly access.JPGRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/bell ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead Get-together
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
Hey Jack,I think your original description of your location was correct, and your correctionis wrong. The Drive-in camping is shown in the SW corner (not the SE).Or at least that's what we would call SW up here in Canada. :)Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
Hey Jack,I think your original description of your location was correct, and your correctionis wrong. The Drive-in camping is shown in the SW corner (not the SE).Or at least that's what we would call SW up here in Canada. :)Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
Original Posted By: Bill Church
Listers,Being a purist, (almost a parody of myself at this point) I'll have to admit (albeit reluctantly) that the flat seat back gets to me after only a short time. You know those two bones that kind of stick out of your lower back? About 4-5 inches apart? At waist level. Those two bones rub into that seat back and it becomes very sore very fast. I am going to slide my rubber mouse pad down into my pants behind my belt. That should fix it! This is technically a part of my wardrobe, and not an alteration or addition to the BHP plans. No comments please.Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
Listers,Being a purist, (almost a parody of myself at this point) I'll have to admit (albeit reluctantly) that the flat seat back gets to me after only a short time. You know those two bones that kind of stick out of your lower back? About 4-5 inches apart? At waist level. Those two bones rub into that seat back and it becomes very sore very fast. I am going to slide my rubber mouse pad down into my pants behind my belt. That should fix it! This is technically a part of my wardrobe, and not an alteration or addition to the BHP plans. No comments please.Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead Get-together
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Bill,Since I've never flown in I've always been screwed up on directions there.Tell me if I'm all wet, the diagram shows runway 27 "up". Is that correct?If so it's SE. No matter what it is it's the "Drive-In Camping Area" a milefrom the action...You say pardner?Jack-----Original Message-----
Bill,Since I've never flown in I've always been screwed up on directions there.Tell me if I'm all wet, the diagram shows runway 27 "up". Is that correct?If so it's SE. No matter what it is it's the "Drive-In Camping Area" a milefrom the action...You say pardner?Jack-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead Get-together
Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead Get-together
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead Get-together
Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
Original Posted By: "kevinpurtee"
I think I forgot to put my thinking cap on today. Totally missed the runway numberson the map, and just assumed North was UP, like a normal map. And I've drivenin numerous times, and lost my sense of direction as well.My apologies for questioning your directions, sir.I'll see you in the "Drive-in Camping" area.BillRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
I think I forgot to put my thinking cap on today. Totally missed the runway numberson the map, and just assumed North was UP, like a normal map. And I've drivenin numerous times, and lost my sense of direction as well.My apologies for questioning your directions, sir.I'll see you in the "Drive-in Camping" area.BillRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
Original Posted By: "skipgadd(at)earthlink.net"
I use cushions. I know that sounds radical.--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeNX899KPAustin/Georgetown, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I use cushions. I know that sounds radical.--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeNX899KPAustin/Georgetown, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
Original Posted By:> Bill Church
Bill,I decided to stay a little closer to the plans. The holes are made of 2layers of 1/8 ply the bottom layer hole being 1/2" smaller than the toplayer. Plan to use the middle hole for maintance access and the outer holeswill have canvas cargo bags, still have to figure a way to keep the canvasfrom fouling the rudder cables. Plan to use leather hindges and hope to beable to slide my butt to access cargo in flight. The hole in the pac seatis just for inspection/maintance.Skip> [Original Message]
Bill,I decided to stay a little closer to the plans. The holes are made of 2layers of 1/8 ply the bottom layer hole being 1/2" smaller than the toplayer. Plan to use the middle hole for maintance access and the outer holeswill have canvas cargo bags, still have to figure a way to keep the canvasfrom fouling the rudder cables. Plan to use leather hindges and hope to beable to slide my butt to access cargo in flight. The hole in the pac seatis just for inspection/maintance.Skip> [Original Message]
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
Original Posted By:> Bill Church > Listers,> > Being a purist, (almost a parody of myself at this point) I'll have > to admit (albeit reluctantly) that the flat seat back gets to me > after only a short time. You know those two bones that kind of > stick out of your lower back? About 4-5 inches apart? At waist > level. Those two bones rub into that seat back and it becomes very > sore very fast. I am going to slide my rubber mouse pad down into > my pants behind my belt. That should fix it! This is technically a > part of my wardrobe, and not an alteration or addition to the BHP > plans. No comments please.> > Dan Helsper> Puryear, TN> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead Get-together
Original Posted By: "Paul N. Peckham"
WoW!! Flip the flap up in flight and it looks like you've got quite a nice wayto relieve yourself...
--------Lorin MillerWaiex N81YXGN-1 N30PPRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead Get-together
WoW!! Flip the flap up in flight and it looks like you've got quite a nice wayto relieve yourself...
--------Lorin MillerWaiex N81YXGN-1 N30PPRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead Get-togetherOriginal Posted By: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG FORSCOM"
Jack,Thank you for your generous offer. My son and I will be there, and also to helpout. Thanks again.PaulRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Jack,Thank you for your generous offer. My son and I will be there, and also to helpout. Thanks again.PaulRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seatPerhaps one of the seats from Oregon Aero is your simple solution. they use a memoryfoam that is super comfortable for long trips. Then you can still be a purist.Blue Skies,Steve D----- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seatPerhaps one of the seats from Oregon Aero is your simple solution. they use a memoryfoam that is super comfortable for long trips. Then you can still be a purist.Blue Skies,Steve D----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Get-together
Original Posted By: "Jack"
Susan and I would like to host a lunch at Brodhead. We plan to be there Thursday evening and depart Saturday for Oshkosh. We were thinking about having brats and hamburgers Friday around 11:00 to 12:00. Any takers please let me know. We will have our motor home parked in the SW 40. It=92s a green and white 37 foot Itasca. We would also like to have friends join us in Oshkosh (Camp Scholler) for cocktails=2C date and time to be determined. Can=92t wait!JackDSM ________________________________________________________________________________
Susan and I would like to host a lunch at Brodhead. We plan to be there Thursday evening and depart Saturday for Oshkosh. We were thinking about having brats and hamburgers Friday around 11:00 to 12:00. Any takers please let me know. We will have our motor home parked in the SW 40. It=92s a green and white 37 foot Itasca. We would also like to have friends join us in Oshkosh (Camp Scholler) for cocktails=2C date and time to be determined. Can=92t wait!JackDSM ________________________________________________________________________________
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> > > > > > > Brodhead Get-together > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like> its a party,> great! Will miss you Jim, youre on Dan,> thanks. All friends> are welcome. Just bring what you plan to drink and we> will handle the> rest. Lets hope for CALM> weather! > > Keep the> replies coming in > > Jack and> Susan > > DSM> > > Tom> WI copied you, hope you can> make it too! > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brodhead Get-together > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like> its a party,> great! Will miss you Jim, youre on Dan,> thanks. All friends> are welcome. Just bring what you plan to drink and we> will handle the> rest. Lets hope for CALM> weather! > > Keep the> replies coming in > > Jack and> Susan > > DSM> > > Tom> WI copied you, hope you can> make it too! > > > > > > > > >