Original Posted By: "FlyBoy57"
If you are intent on using these alternative construction materials to build anairplane, perhaps you should consider an alternative airplane design to the Pietenpol.The Piet was designed to be built using materials that were readilyavailable and with a minimum of effort, and with a skill set that almost everyonecould master easily. The Piet still fits within those design parameters,and there's no need to go changing the material list or construction methodsto produce a high quality airplane with great flying qualities. Adding weightand complexity to an airplane rarely adds to the performance of an existing,proven design.Go to the Brodhead Piet fly-in some year and check out what shows up at the field...you won't find a lot of aluminum spars, ribs or leading edges on the planesthere. You won't find a lot of extra metal that adds a lot of extra weightthat requires larger engines with more horsepower. The idea is to keep it simple,keep it light, keep to the plans as much as possible and wind up with agreat little airplane that you'll be very happy with.--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Widen fuselage by 2 inches
Pietenpol-List: Widen fuselage by 2 inches
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
I looked at a project today and I like the workmanship. The fuselage is builtand covered. My only concern is that the builder widened the fuselage by 2 inches.Anyone have any thoughts on what this means for me down the line? Whatother modifications and changes do I have to consider because of the wider fuselage?Thanks a bunch.Blue skies and warm tailwinds,DonatoRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I looked at a project today and I like the workmanship. The fuselage is builtand covered. My only concern is that the builder widened the fuselage by 2 inches.Anyone have any thoughts on what this means for me down the line? Whatother modifications and changes do I have to consider because of the wider fuselage?Thanks a bunch.Blue skies and warm tailwinds,DonatoRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Widen fuselage by 2 inches
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Donato,A wider fuselage is not the end of the world. It just means the plane willbe heavier (and more expensive) than normal. You will also need to take theextra width into account when mounting the cabane struts to thecentersection. You might want to make the turtledeck and cowlings a bittaller to keep the fuselage proportions the same.Mine is 1" wider than plans and as I've stated before, if I had it to doover again, I would make it to plans. But if everything else looks good onthe project I would not reject it for its Wide Body aspects.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
Donato,A wider fuselage is not the end of the world. It just means the plane willbe heavier (and more expensive) than normal. You will also need to take theextra width into account when mounting the cabane struts to thecentersection. You might want to make the turtledeck and cowlings a bittaller to keep the fuselage proportions the same.Mine is 1" wider than plans and as I've stated before, if I had it to doover again, I would make it to plans. But if everything else looks good onthe project I would not reject it for its Wide Body aspects.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Widen fuselage by 2 inches
Original Posted By: "FlyBoy57"
I can't really see anything wrong with widening the fuse by 2 inches as long as he widened the wing center section the same amount. The cabane attachment metal pieces need to line up -- vertically. C----- Original Message -----
I can't really see anything wrong with widening the fuse by 2 inches as long as he widened the wing center section the same amount. The cabane attachment metal pieces need to line up -- vertically. C----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Widen fuselage by 2 inches
Original Posted By: airlion
Pietenpol-List: Widen fuselage by 2 inches
Original Posted By: airlion
Pietenpol-List: Re: What it was like at Brodhead this year....
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Donato,Do not reject that project because of the 2 inch wider fuselage! My Piet has been flying for over forty years with its fuselage widened by that amount and did not turn out to be particularly heavy at 630 lb empty.(with a C85-8 and a wooden propeller). I have flown a couple of standard-width Pietenpols which were a bit "cosy" with extra clothing we need most of the year here in central Alberta, Canada.I widened the center section by two inches to match the fuselage, but changed little else. A friend built his Piet using my jigs and his a/c has been flying since 1975. Its present owner is somewhat "heavy set" and appreciates the extra cockpit width.In my opinion, two additional inches is optimal and I would not widen it more than that. If I were to build another Pietenpol, it would have the same fuselage width as old CF-AUN (which I had planned to fly this evening until thunderstorms showed up).Graham Hansen________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: What it was like at Brodhead this year....
Donato,Do not reject that project because of the 2 inch wider fuselage! My Piet has been flying for over forty years with its fuselage widened by that amount and did not turn out to be particularly heavy at 630 lb empty.(with a C85-8 and a wooden propeller). I have flown a couple of standard-width Pietenpols which were a bit "cosy" with extra clothing we need most of the year here in central Alberta, Canada.I widened the center section by two inches to match the fuselage, but changed little else. A friend built his Piet using my jigs and his a/c has been flying since 1975. Its present owner is somewhat "heavy set" and appreciates the extra cockpit width.In my opinion, two additional inches is optimal and I would not widen it more than that. If I were to build another Pietenpol, it would have the same fuselage width as old CF-AUN (which I had planned to fly this evening until thunderstorms showed up).Graham Hansen________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: What it was like at Brodhead this year....
Pietenpol-List: Re: What it was like at Brodhead this year....
Original Posted By: "Jerry Dotson"
You had to get me on tape saying, "wimmins be thinkin too much", right? LOL!That Burgundy Hatz at 15:30 is from Collinsville, OK.Thanks for sharing the vid.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: What it was like at Brodhead this year....
You had to get me on tape saying, "wimmins be thinkin too much", right? LOL!That Burgundy Hatz at 15:30 is from Collinsville, OK.Thanks for sharing the vid.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: What it was like at Brodhead this year....
Pietenpol-List: Re: Widen fuselage by 2 inches
Original Posted By: "FlyBoy57"
Very good Jim come on down to humid, muggy Florida and help me cover. You can dothe rib stitching. Just getting my feet wet on the control surfaces now. Seeingall those Piets flying lights a fire to get her done.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rollingusing Lycoming O-235Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Widen fuselage by 2 inches
Very good Jim come on down to humid, muggy Florida and help me cover. You can dothe rib stitching. Just getting my feet wet on the control surfaces now. Seeingall those Piets flying lights a fire to get her done.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rollingusing Lycoming O-235Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Widen fuselage by 2 inches