Original Posted By: "TriScout"
I don't look at my airspeed indicator a whole lot, but there arecertain times that I look at it without fail. One is when taking offwith a passenger aboard. Solo, I never worry about getting sufficientairspeed to lift off but with a pax, I always look at the ASI to makesure I have sufficient airspeed for rotation and climbout, and I checkit another time or two while climbing out. With 65 or 75HP of poweron the nose, it's important to manage climb airspeed when loaded.With a Corvair or anything like a C85-90 or O-200, not so much becausethere is more excess power.Another time I check airspeed without fail is when setting up on final.Most of the time I can fly the approach seat of the pants, but if you'll lookthrough the archives you'll find comments from most of the high-timePiet pilots about the perfect airspeed to hold on final. They will alltell you that there is perhaps a 2-3MPH airspeed band between what you flyfor a short field landing and a normal landing, and between a normal landingand a gusty wind landing. That is to say, you can bring the airplane downquite steeply if you fly it down the wire around 54-57 whereas a more normalapproach is flown at maybe 57-60. When it's gusty, a bit more airspeed helpsto reduce bobbing around and gives more positive control, so you may fly finalin the 60s every now and then. In a strong and gusty headwind, I have evenflown final almost at cruise airspeed.The point is, it isn't all that easy to feel the difference between 50 and 55and when you get the airplane slow, it's going to come down quite rapidly.So you do need an ASI but it doesn't have to be extremely accurate... justconsistent. The earlier comments about calibrating your ASI using themanometer method (Mark Langford's website) are very useful. Mark is justabout the most careful and diligent builder I know, and he takes great painsto eliminate unknowns and inconsistencies from his airplane and systems.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"Medford, ORwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sign Off
Pietenpol-List: Sign Off
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
Well folks.. I,ve tinkered all I can. I taxi tested and tweaked her. Brakes holdup to about 1600 r's.. which is the way I like them. Not a drop of oil in thecowl after run up. 684hrs TT airframe.. A65-8 (this planes 4th engine). AnnualConditional Inp..signed off today by DAR. It feels good.. very easy to taxi...as if I've been sitting in it 20yrs. But evenw/17,000 hrs under my belt, it sure would give me a warm fuzzy to find someoneto take her around the patch before I haul off in it. Any takers? This isnot your simple ol' 747 that I'm used to, but rather, an intimidating GN-1. Afterthe sign off, I sat in silence.. staring at it over a crappacino...Oh well.. heading overseas Monday for a few weeks.. (around the world in 80 delays).I'll stare at it some more starting mid-Sept...LerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscf ... __________
Well folks.. I,ve tinkered all I can. I taxi tested and tweaked her. Brakes holdup to about 1600 r's.. which is the way I like them. Not a drop of oil in thecowl after run up. 684hrs TT airframe.. A65-8 (this planes 4th engine). AnnualConditional Inp..signed off today by DAR. It feels good.. very easy to taxi...as if I've been sitting in it 20yrs. But evenw/17,000 hrs under my belt, it sure would give me a warm fuzzy to find someoneto take her around the patch before I haul off in it. Any takers? This isnot your simple ol' 747 that I'm used to, but rather, an intimidating GN-1. Afterthe sign off, I sat in silence.. staring at it over a crappacino...Oh well.. heading overseas Monday for a few weeks.. (around the world in 80 delays).I'll stare at it some more starting mid-Sept...LerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscf ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Sign Off
Original Posted By: "Billy McCaskill"
Uhau!!! to much entries about everynote; but what about the idea?... this is thetopic, isn't it?I read the same thing three or four time, "Kari-Ann"... I do not like this solution,it work because some of you did it, (even Kari), but I do not like it, andI do not see any mathematical or fisic proof of her solution, but I do notthink is bad, simply I do not like it. I am a system engineer and from the beginin of my career I learned that for oneproblem are lots of solution (at least in my field), and is the same about everything,always are better solutions for anything, this is why we are where weare, if not, even we wold be on the trees. (may english is so so, may be theexpression is not good write it).So, I am going to go forward whit this idea but I do not going to tell you WHY,because I have a reason for that, but the reason is not the topic, just the problem.I do not like cut a longeron as I said in the beginin, I don like KA solution,and I do not like any solution out of cut the longeron.... The only thingI want to do is restore the longeron fortres after cut it, in any way. Clear?..;0) [Wink] but by the moment I do not think in the problem, I am goingto post somethin when I do it.Best regards to all. [Wink]--------Mario Giacummohttp://vgmk1.blogspot.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sign Off
Uhau!!! to much entries about everynote; but what about the idea?... this is thetopic, isn't it?I read the same thing three or four time, "Kari-Ann"... I do not like this solution,it work because some of you did it, (even Kari), but I do not like it, andI do not see any mathematical or fisic proof of her solution, but I do notthink is bad, simply I do not like it. I am a system engineer and from the beginin of my career I learned that for oneproblem are lots of solution (at least in my field), and is the same about everything,always are better solutions for anything, this is why we are where weare, if not, even we wold be on the trees. (may english is so so, may be theexpression is not good write it).So, I am going to go forward whit this idea but I do not going to tell you WHY,because I have a reason for that, but the reason is not the topic, just the problem.I do not like cut a longeron as I said in the beginin, I don like KA solution,and I do not like any solution out of cut the longeron.... The only thingI want to do is restore the longeron fortres after cut it, in any way. Clear?..;0) [Wink] but by the moment I do not think in the problem, I am goingto post somethin when I do it.Best regards to all. [Wink]--------Mario Giacummohttp://vgmk1.blogspot.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sign Off
Pietenpol-List: Re: Sign Off
Original Posted By: "kevinpurtee"
Congrats on the sign-off, TriScout! Let us know how she flies. Will we see thisbeauty at Brodhead next year?--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sign Off
Congrats on the sign-off, TriScout! Let us know how she flies. Will we see thisbeauty at Brodhead next year?--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sign Off
Pietenpol-List: Re: Sign Off
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
Thanks all..Just got back from the aerodrome, where I met Kevin, his son, and Purdee wife.Some good Piet folk indeed. Kevin was kind enough to taxi test my machine, confirmingmy thoughts that it had a good feel to her. I will take his advice andgap seal the ailerons before I fly it. I was already planning to do that priorto flying. Thanks again Kevin and family for stopping by. Looking forward to next time wemeet up..yeah, would like to make brodhead.. that would be nice...LerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 16:09:30 -0500
Thanks all..Just got back from the aerodrome, where I met Kevin, his son, and Purdee wife.Some good Piet folk indeed. Kevin was kind enough to taxi test my machine, confirmingmy thoughts that it had a good feel to her. I will take his advice andgap seal the ailerons before I fly it. I was already planning to do that priorto flying. Thanks again Kevin and family for stopping by. Looking forward to next time wemeet up..yeah, would like to make brodhead.. that would be nice...LerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 16:09:30 -0500
Pietenpol-List: Re: prop progress
Original Posted By: "Billy McCaskill"
Well .. work kept me away from home the last month but i hit the prop hard thelast day or so...I put some stain on it and look forward to the clear....but heres the ideaBalancing was pretty easy... can't wait to see it runDan H ... dude.... i can't thank you enough for putting the info together...i'mlooking forward the next one alreadyjeff faithRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/prop ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: prop progress
Well .. work kept me away from home the last month but i hit the prop hard thelast day or so...I put some stain on it and look forward to the clear....but heres the ideaBalancing was pretty easy... can't wait to see it runDan H ... dude.... i can't thank you enough for putting the info together...i'mlooking forward the next one alreadyjeff faithRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/prop ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: prop progress
Re: Pietenpol-List: prop progress
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
WOW! That is definitely the most beautiful prop I've ever seen! Absolutely gorgeous!What kind of wood is that?--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: prop progress
WOW! That is definitely the most beautiful prop I've ever seen! Absolutely gorgeous!What kind of wood is that?--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: prop progress
Pietenpol-List: Re: prop progress
Original Posted By: "Gboothe5"
Thanks guys...its ash Billy... i got the wood from the same place dan did...its a 76x42 and 3 inch thick hubi copied a camel prop shape that i found on woodenpropeller.com not as swoopy as dans but i dig iti'm looking forward to making it shiny and i'm thinking about painting the tipslike the old fabric covered tips.. no fabric, just paintthis is the coolest thing i've made in the piet so farjeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Thanks guys...its ash Billy... i got the wood from the same place dan did...its a 76x42 and 3 inch thick hubi copied a camel prop shape that i found on woodenpropeller.com not as swoopy as dans but i dig iti'm looking forward to making it shiny and i'm thinking about painting the tipslike the old fabric covered tips.. no fabric, just paintthis is the coolest thing i've made in the piet so farjeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: prop progress
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Or.as Axel named us, I am "Gary From Cool." Gary Bell is, "Cool Gary."Somehow, I think I got short end of the stick.I just don't know.maybe that'swhy I'm not "Cool Gary"..Jeff - that is absolutely beautiful!! Let me know when you are ready to runyour engine, and I'll send the scales (if you want to do a pull test). Ineed to re-pitch my prop and cover the fuselage before I will be ready foranother run. You're welcome to the scales..Gary From Cool
Or.as Axel named us, I am "Gary From Cool." Gary Bell is, "Cool Gary."Somehow, I think I got short end of the stick.I just don't know.maybe that'swhy I'm not "Cool Gary"..Jeff - that is absolutely beautiful!! Let me know when you are ready to runyour engine, and I'll send the scales (if you want to do a pull test). Ineed to re-pitch my prop and cover the fuselage before I will be ready foranother run. You're welcome to the scales..Gary From Cool
Pietenpol-List: Re: Sign Off
Original Posted By: "TriScout"
Must be an exciting day...... I'm happy for your progress...........--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sign Off
Must be an exciting day...... I'm happy for your progress...........--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sign Off
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
I was thinking a rocket science approach like maybe leather..like the Bucker Jungmeisterwould look really nice. Don't have a pic, but I believe they do leatheron top and bottom, then lace it up really nice. I'll try the tape thing...Ijust might settle for that, so long as it works.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I was thinking a rocket science approach like maybe leather..like the Bucker Jungmeisterwould look really nice. Don't have a pic, but I believe they do leatheron top and bottom, then lace it up really nice. I'll try the tape thing...Ijust might settle for that, so long as it works.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sign Off
Original Posted By: Jim Boyer
The blue painters tape is a "temporary" fix, don't get me wrong. Just don't letlack pretty leather gap seals delay your first flight.-- Dan Yocumyocum137(at)gmail.com"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."On Aug 21, 2011, at 8:23 PM, "TriScout" wrote:> > I was thinking a rocket science approach like maybe leather..like the BuckerJungmeister would look really nice. Don't have a pic, but I believe they do leatheron top and bottom, then lace it up really nice. I'll try the tape thing...Ijust might settle for that, so long as it works.> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 153#350153> > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________> This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System.> For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 03:33:48 +0000 (UTC)
The blue painters tape is a "temporary" fix, don't get me wrong. Just don't letlack pretty leather gap seals delay your first flight.-- Dan Yocumyocum137(at)gmail.com"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."On Aug 21, 2011, at 8:23 PM, "TriScout" wrote:> > I was thinking a rocket science approach like maybe leather..like the BuckerJungmeister would look really nice. Don't have a pic, but I believe they do leatheron top and bottom, then lace it up really nice. I'll try the tape thing...Ijust might settle for that, so long as it works.> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 153#350153> > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________> This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System.> For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 03:33:48 +0000 (UTC)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: lycoming 0235 C1B experts
Original Posted By: Jerry Dotson
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: lycoming 0235 C1B expertsCrank was sent out for magnaflux so I believe sludge tubes were knocked out and cleaned during the process. I got aluminium push rods and 1 oil pump gear and one steel gear. So I am planning those replacments along with the rod bolts and nuts wrist pin plugs crank gear bolt and lock and the bearings and rings as consumables. And a full engine gasket and seal kitJohnSent via DROID on Verizon Wireless-----Original message-----
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: lycoming 0235 C1B expertsCrank was sent out for magnaflux so I believe sludge tubes were knocked out and cleaned during the process. I got aluminium push rods and 1 oil pump gear and one steel gear. So I am planning those replacments along with the rod bolts and nuts wrist pin plugs crank gear bolt and lock and the bearings and rings as consumables. And a full engine gasket and seal kitJohnSent via DROID on Verizon Wireless-----Original message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Sign Off
Original Posted By: "TriScout"
folowing with the joint point, may be this could be the solution, not number bythe moment, but it looks better than simple bolts, and have the adventage thatit could be possible to reduce the bolts diameter.--------Mario Giacummohttp://vgmk1.blogspot.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/p2_1 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sign Off
folowing with the joint point, may be this could be the solution, not number bythe moment, but it looks better than simple bolts, and have the adventage thatit could be possible to reduce the bolts diameter.--------Mario Giacummohttp://vgmk1.blogspot.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/p2_1 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sign Off
Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage pass through sealing
Original Posted By: "kevinpurtee"
Thanks about the paint scheme Stinemetze.. I like it as well, but I cannot claimthat idea. I bought the airframe a yr ago on Barnstormers. I just had to tossa motor and corkscrew upon it, then assemble it at the hangar for instant gratification.Even though that sounds simple, the ol' learning curve was literallyclimbing like a mountain goat from all the good advice shared ..as well asstudying maintenance guides, etc..After running into Kevin(and family), I'm beginning to see what you guys mean aboutthe whole Piet/GN-1 community. It would be kinda neat to try the whole Brodheadthing next yr in it.Sadly, I'm already in CHS hauling off to Germany now.. Will be home for 2 wks startingSept 12th. Will get it airborne then...whether it be Kevin, myself, etc..Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage pass through sealing
Thanks about the paint scheme Stinemetze.. I like it as well, but I cannot claimthat idea. I bought the airframe a yr ago on Barnstormers. I just had to tossa motor and corkscrew upon it, then assemble it at the hangar for instant gratification.Even though that sounds simple, the ol' learning curve was literallyclimbing like a mountain goat from all the good advice shared ..as well asstudying maintenance guides, etc..After running into Kevin(and family), I'm beginning to see what you guys mean aboutthe whole Piet/GN-1 community. It would be kinda neat to try the whole Brodheadthing next yr in it.Sadly, I'm already in CHS hauling off to Germany now.. Will be home for 2 wks startingSept 12th. Will get it airborne then...whether it be Kevin, myself, etc..Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage pass through sealing
Original Posted By: Doug Dever
Tom - You use a soldering iron to burn the hole in the fabric then you run theline or whatever through the hole. The hole is basically self-cauterizing. Ifyou're worried about the aesthetics you can use a leather patch, a rubber grommetor even a hard plastic doo-dad to give a more finished look.--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeNX899KPAustin/Georgetown, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 11:11:00 -0700 (PDT)
Tom - You use a soldering iron to burn the hole in the fabric then you run theline or whatever through the hole. The hole is basically self-cauterizing. Ifyou're worried about the aesthetics you can use a leather patch, a rubber grommetor even a hard plastic doo-dad to give a more finished look.--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeNX899KPAustin/Georgetown, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 11:11:00 -0700 (PDT)
Pietenpol-List: Re: Sign Off
Original Posted By: "TOM STINEMETZE"
attempted upload of Kevin taxiingRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 13:21:50 -0500
attempted upload of Kevin taxiingRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 13:21:50 -0500
Pietenpol-List: Re: prop progress
Original Posted By: "bender"
first coat of spar varnish really made it shine..jeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/prop ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: prop progress
first coat of spar varnish really made it shine..jeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/prop ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: prop progress
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage pass through sealing
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
Hey Dan... i used metal punches...you don't have to hit too hardall the props i've seen look like they were punched tooeasy to dojeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage pass through sealing
Hey Dan... i used metal punches...you don't have to hit too hardall the props i've seen look like they were punched tooeasy to dojeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage pass through sealing
Original Posted By: TOM STINEMETZE
Hi Tom,I never liked the glued-on leather patches that I saw at Brodhead (and other places). Inevitably the leather patch would start to peel off and curl up at the edges. Looked really ratty to me. So what I did is come up with a real innovative idea. I blatantly and unapologetically copied what I had seen someone else do. Glue a patch of leather on to the fabric, and then cover it with another patch of ceconite. Really works slick and will never look ratty. I think I copied this from Larry Williams?? Maybe?? Can't remember now.Dan HelsperPuryear, TN. -----Original Message-----
Hi Tom,I never liked the glued-on leather patches that I saw at Brodhead (and other places). Inevitably the leather patch would start to peel off and curl up at the edges. Looked really ratty to me. So what I did is come up with a real innovative idea. I blatantly and unapologetically copied what I had seen someone else do. Glue a patch of leather on to the fabric, and then cover it with another patch of ceconite. Really works slick and will never look ratty. I think I copied this from Larry Williams?? Maybe?? Can't remember now.Dan HelsperPuryear, TN. -----Original Message-----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage pass through sealing
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I did much the same thing, but used a piece of aluminum with a slot in itfor the cable, then sandwiched it between the fabric and a pinked-edgefabric patch, as seen below:Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____
I did much the same thing, but used a piece of aluminum with a slot in itfor the cable, then sandwiched it between the fabric and a pinked-edgefabric patch, as seen below:Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____