Original Posted By: "ldmill"
Saturday was a good day for 502Rocket. I got to share the joy with Amy Gesch. Amy is 20 and completely bitten by the aviation bug. She is a Cub junkie and interned at Dakota Cub this Summer. I have known her since she started hanging around HXF in 2008.Saturday, Hartford was the sight of the pig roast around the birthday of Steve Krog's assistant Dana. Unbeknownst to us she and her significant other Paul, decided to tie the knot at lunch. Nobody knew ahead of time. It was very cool. Their little farmette is adjacent to the airport so a bunch of us went back, grabbed our planes and headed over for an impromptu flour bomb drop. I had bombardier Rachel with me and we made some "daring low level passes" while she aimed for the cone in the back yard. I think she hit a goat, a small boy and the side of the house. If you were to stay safe, you needed to stand where the cone was.After the carpet bombing, we headed back over to the house and there was Amy. I had not seen her all year so we caught up and I found out she was leaving for school the next day. I said if she wanted to fly the Piet then we would have to go back now. She said okay and off we went.I put her in the front, took off and handed over the controls. She is a smooth flyer. We did three stalls and she wanted to follow me through a landing. After that I said she should fly the pattern a bit so she took off and we did three circuits. When we landed, I said she might as well jump in back and solo. She she did three times around and had a huge grin on her face that this little plane provides. Here are a couple of photos. She had one of them posted to Facebook before I had the airplane back in the hangar.-john-John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2424 American LaneMadison, WI 53704Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: flying my 95 year old uncle around in the Piet...
Pietenpol-List: flying my 95 year old uncle around in the Piet...
Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight video
Original Posted By: "Billy McCaskill"
Cherished Memories. Yes - I did it. I stuffed my 95 year old great uncle into aplane designed 80+ years ago that many 30 year olds have trouble getting into...Went down to the old home town of Wellman, Iowa to visit uncle Glenn - the guyresponsible for my career choice and brother to my grand-father who was responsiblefor my flying addiction. Little did I know that he had already told everybodyin town that he was going for a flight in my plane!! When I got there,he was jumping around like a teenager looking over my "contraption", "huh - thatthing really flys!". He took me out for breakfast then literally dragged meback to the private strip, popped in the front cockpit (yes - I DO like thedoor, thank you), stuck the leather helmet on his head - and off we went putt-puttingaround the land that has been his home stomping ground since prior toWW1. As we'd get close to something important, he'd gesture down energeticallyand grin. It was a grand hour of buzzing barns (literally barnstorming !), wavingat people who came outside to see what the noise was, and looking at oldfarmsteads that he grew up in or lived in, many of which are now abandoned orrazed. Getting uncle Glenn out of the plane wasn't as easy as getting in. He was a littletuckered, but was all smiles and I had a hard time getting a word in edgewise.His daughter was there and had taken several photo's of the event - whicheventually made their way into the local paper with a nice article writtenaround them. Uncle Glenn still drives himself to work every day at the business he startedsometime wayyy over 50 years ago and still owns (he's an electrician), has beenmarried to the same lady for almost 75 years - who lives at home with him andis just as energetic around the house as he is. I grew up in his shop watchinghim and my grandpa work on all things electrical - guess that's why I eventuallybecame an electrical engineer. My grandfather took me up for my first flight at the Wellman airfield in an oldTaylorcraft back in '69 when I was 4 years old. I was his last passenger inthe early '70's before he lost his medical. I took him up from the same Wellmanairfield in 1987 for his last flight before he passed. He was my first passengerafter I got my license. I flew Glenn out of the same airfield less thana month ago. It will most likely be his last flight as well, but it was one worthyof being a last flight and I cherish the memory of it. I love the memories that flying provide us, especially Piet type of flying. Ikeep my logbook in my fireproof safe now for safe keeping as a family heritagepiece, and so that I can go back at will and re-read these memories. That's my story, just had to get it off my chest. We are definitely lucky, folks.LorinGN-1 N30PP--------Lorin MillerWaiex N81YXGN-1 N30PPRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc0 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight video
Cherished Memories. Yes - I did it. I stuffed my 95 year old great uncle into aplane designed 80+ years ago that many 30 year olds have trouble getting into...Went down to the old home town of Wellman, Iowa to visit uncle Glenn - the guyresponsible for my career choice and brother to my grand-father who was responsiblefor my flying addiction. Little did I know that he had already told everybodyin town that he was going for a flight in my plane!! When I got there,he was jumping around like a teenager looking over my "contraption", "huh - thatthing really flys!". He took me out for breakfast then literally dragged meback to the private strip, popped in the front cockpit (yes - I DO like thedoor, thank you), stuck the leather helmet on his head - and off we went putt-puttingaround the land that has been his home stomping ground since prior toWW1. As we'd get close to something important, he'd gesture down energeticallyand grin. It was a grand hour of buzzing barns (literally barnstorming !), wavingat people who came outside to see what the noise was, and looking at oldfarmsteads that he grew up in or lived in, many of which are now abandoned orrazed. Getting uncle Glenn out of the plane wasn't as easy as getting in. He was a littletuckered, but was all smiles and I had a hard time getting a word in edgewise.His daughter was there and had taken several photo's of the event - whicheventually made their way into the local paper with a nice article writtenaround them. Uncle Glenn still drives himself to work every day at the business he startedsometime wayyy over 50 years ago and still owns (he's an electrician), has beenmarried to the same lady for almost 75 years - who lives at home with him andis just as energetic around the house as he is. I grew up in his shop watchinghim and my grandpa work on all things electrical - guess that's why I eventuallybecame an electrical engineer. My grandfather took me up for my first flight at the Wellman airfield in an oldTaylorcraft back in '69 when I was 4 years old. I was his last passenger inthe early '70's before he lost his medical. I took him up from the same Wellmanairfield in 1987 for his last flight before he passed. He was my first passengerafter I got my license. I flew Glenn out of the same airfield less thana month ago. It will most likely be his last flight as well, but it was one worthyof being a last flight and I cherish the memory of it. I love the memories that flying provide us, especially Piet type of flying. Ikeep my logbook in my fireproof safe now for safe keeping as a family heritagepiece, and so that I can go back at will and re-read these memories. That's my story, just had to get it off my chest. We are definitely lucky, folks.LorinGN-1 N30PP--------Lorin MillerWaiex N81YXGN-1 N30PPRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc0 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight video
Re: Pietenpol-List: flying my 95 year old uncle around in the Piet...
Original Posted By: "Brett Phillips"
It's great to learn from the mistakes of others. We can't possibly live long enoughto make them all ourselves. The sharing of ideas and experiences is whatmakes this forum so valuable, aside from the friendships and cameraderie!--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying my 95 year old uncle around in the Piet...Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 21:53:30 -0400
It's great to learn from the mistakes of others. We can't possibly live long enoughto make them all ourselves. The sharing of ideas and experiences is whatmakes this forum so valuable, aside from the friendships and cameraderie!--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying my 95 year old uncle around in the Piet...Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 21:53:30 -0400
Re: Pietenpol-List: Spruce vs. ?????
Original Posted By: "Clif Dawson"
No it's not worthless weight. The strength iscommenserately more per square inch. Thereforeyou would resize the parts to bring the weightand strength in line with spruce.Also you can go to the link I've provided previouslyand compare the weights and strengths for yourself.Clif>> If I remember correctly, douglas fir is 23% heavier than spruce, so that's > worthless weight...>> With any light-weight, low-power aircraft, any increase in empty weight is > significant. Why add worthless weight just to save a few bucks or time > during building? You'll be lugging that dead weight around every time you > go flying.> Wayne Bressler________________________________________________________________________________
No it's not worthless weight. The strength iscommenserately more per square inch. Thereforeyou would resize the parts to bring the weightand strength in line with spruce.Also you can go to the link I've provided previouslyand compare the weights and strengths for yourself.Clif>> If I remember correctly, douglas fir is 23% heavier than spruce, so that's > worthless weight...>> With any light-weight, low-power aircraft, any increase in empty weight is > significant. Why add worthless weight just to save a few bucks or time > during building? You'll be lugging that dead weight around every time you > go flying.> Wayne Bressler________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: flying my 95 year old uncle around in the Piet...
Original Posted By: Ken Bickers
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying my 95 year old uncle around in the Piet...Thanks Brett! It was just one of those experiences that I had to pass along.LorinSent from my Samsung Captivate(tm) on AT&TBrett Phillips wrote:That's a first rate story Lorin! It brought a smile to my face after along ugly day at work. I'm looking forward to similar experiences someday. I'm a real fan of your uncle's generation, those folks deserve allthe respect we can muster.Brett PhillipsStrasburg, VAwrote:>> Cherished Memories. Yes - I did it. I stuffed my 95 year old great uncle> into a plane designed 80+ years ago that many 30 year olds have trouble> getting into...________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:54:11 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying my 95 year old uncle around in the Piet...
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying my 95 year old uncle around in the Piet...Thanks Brett! It was just one of those experiences that I had to pass along.LorinSent from my Samsung Captivate(tm) on AT&TBrett Phillips wrote:That's a first rate story Lorin! It brought a smile to my face after along ugly day at work. I'm looking forward to similar experiences someday. I'm a real fan of your uncle's generation, those folks deserve allthe respect we can muster.Brett PhillipsStrasburg, VAwrote:>> Cherished Memories. Yes - I did it. I stuffed my 95 year old great uncle> into a plane designed 80+ years ago that many 30 year olds have trouble> getting into...________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:54:11 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying my 95 year old uncle around in the Piet...
Pietenpol-List: Re: Rib - about to cut wood - spar perpendicular to chord
Original Posted By: "MaximumBob"
>From a structural strength perspective these small changes in the spar orientationare not critical. It's more important to make the front and rear cabane strutsequal length so you can easily adjust the wing fore and aft location.You can use the Search facility to search the Pietenpol-List forum for "Riblettincidence" (DON'T include the double quotation marks but DO select the "Searchfor all terms" radio button) and you'll get a fairly relevant list of threadsto read.At first glance there is a lot of confusing information regarding how to set theincidence for a Riblett 612. I don't have time to sort it all out and give anopinion at this time, but it appears at least possible that the angle of incidencerelative to the upper longerons will come out OK provided that the sparsrest on the rib bottom capstrips: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ------Bill FrankRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rib - about to cut wood - spar perpendicular to chordline?
>From a structural strength perspective these small changes in the spar orientationare not critical. It's more important to make the front and rear cabane strutsequal length so you can easily adjust the wing fore and aft location.You can use the Search facility to search the Pietenpol-List forum for "Riblettincidence" (DON'T include the double quotation marks but DO select the "Searchfor all terms" radio button) and you'll get a fairly relevant list of threadsto read.At first glance there is a lot of confusing information regarding how to set theincidence for a Riblett 612. I don't have time to sort it all out and give anopinion at this time, but it appears at least possible that the angle of incidencerelative to the upper longerons will come out OK provided that the sparsrest on the rib bottom capstrips: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ------Bill FrankRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rib - about to cut wood - spar perpendicular to chordline?