Pietenpol-List: TheStewart System
Pietenpol-List: TheStewart System
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
Tom,Check out Stewart's website for more info. Their coatings are water-borne, so thereare no hazardous solvents. I don't think there's any need for a haz-mat suit.http://www.stewartsystems.aero/benefits.aspxBill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: TheStewart System
Tom,Check out Stewart's website for more info. Their coatings are water-borne, so thereare no hazardous solvents. I don't think there's any need for a haz-mat suit.http://www.stewartsystems.aero/benefits.aspxBill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: TheStewart System
Original Posted By: TOM STINEMETZE
Hi Tom,The Stewart System color coats are really neat. There is the color part, the hardener part, and added to that is water. At that point it starts the curing process, and I found that the available spray time (if I remember right) is about 45 minutes. A spray suit is recommended, because the overspray is sticky. Outside air supply is not needed, only the same canister-type respirator that is used for spraying the primer coats. After spraying, everything is cleaned up with warm water. I found it to be very easy to work with. I don't understand the chemistry, but the end result (I think this is the claim of the Stewarts) is a true polyurethane. My finish was not as glossy, because of my lowsy equipment and skill level. Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
Hi Tom,The Stewart System color coats are really neat. There is the color part, the hardener part, and added to that is water. At that point it starts the curing process, and I found that the available spray time (if I remember right) is about 45 minutes. A spray suit is recommended, because the overspray is sticky. Outside air supply is not needed, only the same canister-type respirator that is used for spraying the primer coats. After spraying, everything is cleaned up with warm water. I found it to be very easy to work with. I don't understand the chemistry, but the end result (I think this is the claim of the Stewarts) is a true polyurethane. My finish was not as glossy, because of my lowsy equipment and skill level. Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: TheStewart System
Original Posted By: "TOM STINEMETZE"
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Original Posted By: "TOM STINEMETZE"
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Original Posted By: Doug Dever
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Original Posted By: "Charles Campbell"
I've seen some pretty finishes from that stuff but I'm still trying to figure outwhere you buy that diluted water? :Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I've seen some pretty finishes from that stuff but I'm still trying to figure outwhere you buy that diluted water? :Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: "skellytown flyer"
I thought the same thing! C----- Original Message -----
I thought the same thing! C----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: TheStewart System
Original Posted By: Doug Dever
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Original Posted By: "Jack"
I didn't know they made surgical gloves that big!Clif Shad, I'm close to covering and seriously considering Latex Jack DSM ________________________________________________________________________________
I didn't know they made surgical gloves that big!Clif Shad, I'm close to covering and seriously considering Latex Jack DSM ________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: TheStewart System
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Tom,I have not researched well yet, you could be correct. So many options forconsideration.JackDSM _____
Tom,I have not researched well yet, you could be correct. So many options forconsideration.JackDSM _____
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: TheStewart System
Original Posted By: "TOM STINEMETZE"
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Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
That sounds like a good option. Has anyone out there tried it over sparvarnish?JackDSM _____
That sounds like a good option. Has anyone out there tried it over sparvarnish?JackDSM _____
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Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
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Pietenpol-List: Re: slow flying
Original Posted By: Jeff Wilson
Dan i don't see any way to damage the engine with a fixed pitch prop you can'tlug it. It might oil foul plugs if the rings and valve guides are not in goodshape. At that low a power setting there is a lot of vacuum on the cylinder sideto suck oil past the clearances. My trusty Luscombe with an A-65 would foulplugs when I played around like that so I would go to full power for a minuteor so and that cured the plug fouling.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009now covering21" wheelsLycoming O-235Jay Anderson CloudCars propRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Dan i don't see any way to damage the engine with a fixed pitch prop you can'tlug it. It might oil foul plugs if the rings and valve guides are not in goodshape. At that low a power setting there is a lot of vacuum on the cylinder sideto suck oil past the clearances. My trusty Luscombe with an A-65 would foulplugs when I played around like that so I would go to full power for a minuteor so and that cured the plug fouling.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009now covering21" wheelsLycoming O-235Jay Anderson CloudCars propRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
One of the best things about the StewartSystem is that the fabric adhesive can be used overanything.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 5, 2011, at 12:13 PM, "Jack" wrote:> That sounds like a good option. Has anyone out there tried it over spar varnish?> > Jack> > DSM> > >
One of the best things about the StewartSystem is that the fabric adhesive can be used overanything.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 5, 2011, at 12:13 PM, "Jack" wrote:> That sounds like a good option. Has anyone out there tried it over spar varnish?> > Jack> > DSM> > >
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Original Posted By: Marvin Haught
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Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
9 of your ribs have wedges, Gardiner.Jack Phillips _____
9 of your ribs have wedges, Gardiner.Jack Phillips _____
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Original Posted By: airlion
Pietenpol-List: Re: TheStewart System
Original Posted By: johnwoods(at)westnet.com.au
the ecobond is great, and doesn't stink. Works great with Latex too!I am planning on using 3M Fastbond 30-NF water based contact cement and Latex paint. I have researched this some and find that Fastbond may be the same product as the Ekobond. I cannot guarantee that but I have a friend that used the stewart system and we are going to do some experimentation with some left over Ekobond and Fastbond. Fastbond is considerably cheaper but hard to find in small quantities. I got mine through Granger (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/3M-Con ... sive-3XH48) at about $40 per quart. You can get it for around $50 per gal in 5 gal quantities. It comes in green and neutral just like the Stewart System. I plan to use a high grade of white latex for an undercoat as it has the highestpercentage of titanium dioxide which is a refractory and reflects ultra violet.(Titanium dioxide is used to get very bright whites and is used in sun screenfor UV protection) and then a color coat over that.My friend was quite happy with the Stewart System but found it is very susceptibleto humidity at lower temperatures. He got a blush that actually changed thecolor and had to redo a wing. He is using a maroon base with cream trim Hewas doing it in the basement of a solar home which only had wood heat. I thinkthe lower temperature meant a higher relative humidity. I know some epoxy formulationswill blush at high humidity.--------Jon Coxwell GN-1 BuilderRecycle and preserve the planetRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 17:28:05 +0800 (WST)
the ecobond is great, and doesn't stink. Works great with Latex too!I am planning on using 3M Fastbond 30-NF water based contact cement and Latex paint. I have researched this some and find that Fastbond may be the same product as the Ekobond. I cannot guarantee that but I have a friend that used the stewart system and we are going to do some experimentation with some left over Ekobond and Fastbond. Fastbond is considerably cheaper but hard to find in small quantities. I got mine through Granger (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/3M-Con ... sive-3XH48) at about $40 per quart. You can get it for around $50 per gal in 5 gal quantities. It comes in green and neutral just like the Stewart System. I plan to use a high grade of white latex for an undercoat as it has the highestpercentage of titanium dioxide which is a refractory and reflects ultra violet.(Titanium dioxide is used to get very bright whites and is used in sun screenfor UV protection) and then a color coat over that.My friend was quite happy with the Stewart System but found it is very susceptibleto humidity at lower temperatures. He got a blush that actually changed thecolor and had to redo a wing. He is using a maroon base with cream trim Hewas doing it in the basement of a solar home which only had wood heat. I thinkthe lower temperature meant a higher relative humidity. I know some epoxy formulationswill blush at high humidity.--------Jon Coxwell GN-1 BuilderRecycle and preserve the planetRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 17:28:05 +0800 (WST)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: TheStewart System
Original Posted By: Jim Boyer
Re: Pietenpol-List: slow flying
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum