Original Posted By: rdecosta(at)autoeurope.com (Richard DeCosta)
Hello Piet list! I'm a new subscriber in Houston, Texas. Saw a finishedAir Camper here two weeks ago. Another is in unfinished (ready forcloth) condition and for sale. I'm tempted but can't go for it rightnow. But I'll keep watching.Kevin-- Kevin SouthwickONE WORD COMMUNICATIONSOnline Help & Software User ManualsWeb Page Designhttp://users.accesscomm.net/ksouth(713) 864-6930, fax (713) 864-3056________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: "Bryan Reed"
Graham,Helpful info. Thanks for sharing.Here's a helpful website that lists gas stations that still offer ethanol-freegasoline. The website gets updated regularly, by its users.http://pure-gas.org/Just click on your province or state, and get a list of stations that still offerethanol-free gas. Click on each specific station for details.In Canada, for the most part, Shell is the only large retailer that still offersethanol-free gas - and then only the high-grade (91 octane) fuel. Regular has10% ethanol, and mid-grade is a blend of regular and high, so it has about 5%.However, just going to a Shell station isn't always a guarantee that the highgrade is ethanol-free. The pumps that are ethanol-free will have stickers onthem that state that the 91 octane is ethanol-free. Probably best to do a testof the actual fuel at each purchase to make sure that it is truly ethanol-free.http://www.eaa.org/autofuel/faqs/alcoho ... ng.aspBill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: New to List
Graham,Helpful info. Thanks for sharing.Here's a helpful website that lists gas stations that still offer ethanol-freegasoline. The website gets updated regularly, by its users.http://pure-gas.org/Just click on your province or state, and get a list of stations that still offerethanol-free gas. Click on each specific station for details.In Canada, for the most part, Shell is the only large retailer that still offersethanol-free gas - and then only the high-grade (91 octane) fuel. Regular has10% ethanol, and mid-grade is a blend of regular and high, so it has about 5%.However, just going to a Shell station isn't always a guarantee that the highgrade is ethanol-free. The pumps that are ethanol-free will have stickers onthem that state that the 91 octane is ethanol-free. Probably best to do a testof the actual fuel at each purchase to make sure that it is truly ethanol-free.http://www.eaa.org/autofuel/faqs/alcoho ... ng.aspBill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: New to List
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Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Hello all, Just wanted to introduce myself to the list and apologize in advance for allthe stupid questions I may ask in the future. Bryan Reed from Buckeye, AZ I have Piet plans on order and am awaiting their arrival. I will be building withmy great friend Dennis Mclain. You may know him here as he is the cartooniston the weekly Barnstormers email list. I am 51 so I am old enough to know how little I know. : ) Flying for about 20-years: 5 in sailplanes, 10 in ultralights and the last 5 asa Cessna driver. I am a structural engineer at a wood truss manufacturing plant and yes it is slow.I also am a residential general contractor as well as a general pool buildingcontractor. I spent many years as a carpenter so have pretty good wood skills.My build partner has the metal skills and is actually an artist and graduatefrom LA School of Art. At this stage in my life the above are only what I have to do to afford to flyas that is my passion. Thoughts (right or wrong) are:Build per plansLong fuselageContinental-65 (May add port and polish w/Higher compression pistons)No engine electrical-hand prop and wind generator w/battery to run radio and transponder.Per plan split gear16 to 18" Motorcycle wheels.Sitka Spruce w/Glue T-88 ???? (Kinda firm on the Spruce though) Well that is what my thoughts are anyway, Any and all advice/criticism greatly appreciated and thank you, Bryan--------While I may not always be right, I apologize well.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New to List
Hello all, Just wanted to introduce myself to the list and apologize in advance for allthe stupid questions I may ask in the future. Bryan Reed from Buckeye, AZ I have Piet plans on order and am awaiting their arrival. I will be building withmy great friend Dennis Mclain. You may know him here as he is the cartooniston the weekly Barnstormers email list. I am 51 so I am old enough to know how little I know. : ) Flying for about 20-years: 5 in sailplanes, 10 in ultralights and the last 5 asa Cessna driver. I am a structural engineer at a wood truss manufacturing plant and yes it is slow.I also am a residential general contractor as well as a general pool buildingcontractor. I spent many years as a carpenter so have pretty good wood skills.My build partner has the metal skills and is actually an artist and graduatefrom LA School of Art. At this stage in my life the above are only what I have to do to afford to flyas that is my passion. Thoughts (right or wrong) are:Build per plansLong fuselageContinental-65 (May add port and polish w/Higher compression pistons)No engine electrical-hand prop and wind generator w/battery to run radio and transponder.Per plan split gear16 to 18" Motorcycle wheels.Sitka Spruce w/Glue T-88 ???? (Kinda firm on the Spruce though) Well that is what my thoughts are anyway, Any and all advice/criticism greatly appreciated and thank you, Bryan--------While I may not always be right, I apologize well.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New to List
Original Posted By: Kip and Beth Gardner
Welcome Bryan!--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Welcome Bryan!--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Thanks Ben, Hoping I was headed in the right direction. While transponder isn't required with non electrical it is very busy here. Itis a good safety item to have a transponder as most airports around town aretowered. Without it we are not very welcome and that can be shown in some "not"very subtle ways. I also transition Phx Class-B a lot and it is required there.I like the Icom radio and may use one but they can come across as very weakto towers and other planes. I'm not sure why as I have tried them with variousantennas. Have access to a couple of old Delcom portables. They were alwaysbetter when meshing with conventional radios so I may give them a try. Sometimes I wish it wasn't so busy air traffic wise as I am just looking to getnorth to the mountains so I can noodle around at a couple hundred ft agl. I like more than one good answer, it keeps you on your toes. Thanks again, Bryan--------While I may not always be right, I apologize well.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Thanks Ben, Hoping I was headed in the right direction. While transponder isn't required with non electrical it is very busy here. Itis a good safety item to have a transponder as most airports around town aretowered. Without it we are not very welcome and that can be shown in some "not"very subtle ways. I also transition Phx Class-B a lot and it is required there.I like the Icom radio and may use one but they can come across as very weakto towers and other planes. I'm not sure why as I have tried them with variousantennas. Have access to a couple of old Delcom portables. They were alwaysbetter when meshing with conventional radios so I may give them a try. Sometimes I wish it wasn't so busy air traffic wise as I am just looking to getnorth to the mountains so I can noodle around at a couple hundred ft agl. I like more than one good answer, it keeps you on your toes. Thanks again, Bryan--------While I may not always be right, I apologize well.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Welcome, Bryan!I like all your choices. Pretty much what I did although I have a straightaxle. If I had it to do over, I would do the split axle gear with wirewheels, like Don Emch and Kevin Purtee did.Only possible change I might suggest would be to do without the wind-drivengenerator. My only experience with one of them (on a friend's Luscombe thatI was ferrying) was not pleasant.On mine, I have full comm radio (not a hand-held) and a mode C transponder.I run them off a battery that I recharge every few flights on the ground.As long as you don't have to run the transponder all the time I can getabout 20 hours of flight between charges.You will find this group to be the very best group on the internet. Full ofgood advice and friendly (until you abuse said good advice).Plan now to come to Brodhead next July and bring a camera, tape measure andnotepad.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
Welcome, Bryan!I like all your choices. Pretty much what I did although I have a straightaxle. If I had it to do over, I would do the split axle gear with wirewheels, like Don Emch and Kevin Purtee did.Only possible change I might suggest would be to do without the wind-drivengenerator. My only experience with one of them (on a friend's Luscombe thatI was ferrying) was not pleasant.On mine, I have full comm radio (not a hand-held) and a mode C transponder.I run them off a battery that I recharge every few flights on the ground.As long as you don't have to run the transponder all the time I can getabout 20 hours of flight between charges.You will find this group to be the very best group on the internet. Full ofgood advice and friendly (until you abuse said good advice).Plan now to come to Brodhead next July and bring a camera, tape measure andnotepad.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: "Don Emch"
Jack, I am sensing that the wind driven generator is a bad idea. I have has severalemails offline advising the same. Out with that idea. My first thought was a marine battery and just plug into a good battery tenderwhen not flying. A "friend" had suggested the generator. Where did you mount the the radio and transponder? I would like to put in theVal Avionics Com 2000 as I can get a deal on it but am unsure of which transponder.Any suggestions? Thank you, Bryan--------While I may not always be right, I apologize well.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New to List
Jack, I am sensing that the wind driven generator is a bad idea. I have has severalemails offline advising the same. Out with that idea. My first thought was a marine battery and just plug into a good battery tenderwhen not flying. A "friend" had suggested the generator. Where did you mount the the radio and transponder? I would like to put in theVal Avionics Com 2000 as I can get a deal on it but am unsure of which transponder.Any suggestions? Thank you, Bryan--------While I may not always be right, I apologize well.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New to List
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Bryan,I like your way of thinking! I'm probably a little biased though. With the exceptionof any radio equipment, your ideas are pretty much how I built mine. T-88 and all. Here is a shot of it from this past weekend when my dad and I flewout to breakfast. He was in our Chief and my son and me in my Piet.Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/phot ... __________
Bryan,I like your way of thinking! I'm probably a little biased though. With the exceptionof any radio equipment, your ideas are pretty much how I built mine. T-88 and all. Here is a shot of it from this past weekend when my dad and I flewout to breakfast. He was in our Chief and my son and me in my Piet.Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/phot ... __________
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Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Bryan,I mounted my radio and transponder in the centersection, because mostavionics are 12" deep and the space between the rear instrument panel andthe back of the front seat is only about 7". By putting them in thecentersection they are easily accessible in flight, but don't interfere withthe "antique look" of the airplane. Here's a photo showing what theinstallation looks like:Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
Bryan,I mounted my radio and transponder in the centersection, because mostavionics are 12" deep and the space between the rear instrument panel andthe back of the front seat is only about 7". By putting them in thecentersection they are easily accessible in flight, but don't interfere withthe "antique look" of the airplane. Here's a photo showing what theinstallation looks like:Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: New to List
Original Posted By: "Don Emch"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Regional Pietenpol fly in at BarnwellLooking forward to hearing more. Hope when everything comes together I can get time off work to come! Keep us posted on date/time!Boyce RampeyColumbia, SC In a message dated 10/11/2011 10:17:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, barnwellairport(at)bellsouth.net writes:Fellow Piet builders and flyers, Several weeks back, I posted a notice here about having a "regional" Piet fly in along with Corvair College #21 that will be held on November 11, 12 & 13 at Barnwell airport [ KBNL ] So far, no flying Piets have indicated they would attend. Some who normally would come have scheduling conflicts. There are about 8-10 builders todate who have indicated they will be here and want information on how to build their Piets.We will have my flying Piet, a static display of Don Harpers Piet on the gear with corvair engine, maybe a second static Piet fuselage with tail feathers, and we will hold a Brodhead forum type question/answer session in my hangar to discuss building tips, do's and don'ts. I'll have a rib jig and materials avaliable for those who want to learn how to build a rib.any questions/comments, let me knowP. F. Beck(http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New to List
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Regional Pietenpol fly in at BarnwellLooking forward to hearing more. Hope when everything comes together I can get time off work to come! Keep us posted on date/time!Boyce RampeyColumbia, SC In a message dated 10/11/2011 10:17:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, barnwellairport(at)bellsouth.net writes:Fellow Piet builders and flyers, Several weeks back, I posted a notice here about having a "regional" Piet fly in along with Corvair College #21 that will be held on November 11, 12 & 13 at Barnwell airport [ KBNL ] So far, no flying Piets have indicated they would attend. Some who normally would come have scheduling conflicts. There are about 8-10 builders todate who have indicated they will be here and want information on how to build their Piets.We will have my flying Piet, a static display of Don Harpers Piet on the gear with corvair engine, maybe a second static Piet fuselage with tail feathers, and we will hold a Brodhead forum type question/answer session in my hangar to discuss building tips, do's and don'ts. I'll have a rib jig and materials avaliable for those who want to learn how to build a rib.any questions/comments, let me knowP. F. Beck(http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New to List
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Original Posted By: "Bryan Reed"
That's cool Jack! Never even noticed those in your plane.Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New to List
That's cool Jack! Never even noticed those in your plane.Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New to List
Original Posted By: Jim Boyer
Don, I love the matching paint. A Chief and a Piet, what a great combo to tag teamboring holes in the sky. Thanks for sharing the picture. Bryan Jack, What a great idea for the radio and transponder mount. With that set-up I couldprobably source a used Narco transponder. Brilliant idea, thanks, Bryan--------While I may not always be right, I apologize well.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 02:01:35 +0000 (UTC)
Don, I love the matching paint. A Chief and a Piet, what a great combo to tag teamboring holes in the sky. Thanks for sharing the picture. Bryan Jack, What a great idea for the radio and transponder mount. With that set-up I couldprobably source a used Narco transponder. Brilliant idea, thanks, Bryan--------While I may not always be right, I apologize well.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 02:01:35 +0000 (UTC)
Pietenpol-List: Re: How to contact a local Piet?
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Michael, My thoughts exactly. I have looked at Aircraft Spruce and Wicks. Both seem quitehigh priced for the wood. I am waiting for plans to verify their lists butboth seem light on quantity. Any opinion on the above? Several local buildershave told me to avoid Aircraft Spruce for the wood as Wicks is now the mainsupplier for wood built market. ???? I have used Aircraft Spruce quite successfullyin the past on other items. Thank you, Bryan--------While I may not always be right, I apologize well.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How to contact a local Piet?
Michael, My thoughts exactly. I have looked at Aircraft Spruce and Wicks. Both seem quitehigh priced for the wood. I am waiting for plans to verify their lists butboth seem light on quantity. Any opinion on the above? Several local buildershave told me to avoid Aircraft Spruce for the wood as Wicks is now the mainsupplier for wood built market. ???? I have used Aircraft Spruce quite successfullyin the past on other items. Thank you, Bryan--------While I may not always be right, I apologize well.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How to contact a local Piet?
Original Posted By: "TOM STINEMETZE"
Well, you could probably use a telephone, or the postal system, or even email.Those seem to be the most common methods used to contact people these days. :)Seriously, though, Freeport isn't that big a place. The Pietenpol you're lookingfor is probably Tim Mickel's (N57TL).http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Tim%20M ... 70.JPGBill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 08:53:42 -0500
Well, you could probably use a telephone, or the postal system, or even email.Those seem to be the most common methods used to contact people these days. :)Seriously, though, Freeport isn't that big a place. The Pietenpol you're lookingfor is probably Tim Mickel's (N57TL).http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Tim%20M ... 70.JPGBill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 08:53:42 -0500
Pietenpol-List: Re: How to contact a local Piet?
Original Posted By: "j_dunavin"
Bryan,Welcome to the group. Hope you have a good sense of humor - it will come in handywhile sifting through some of the posts.Sounds like you have a pretty good grip on how you want to build your Piet. Stickto the plans as much as possible, and keep it light.16" motorcycle wheels (I assume that you are referring to the rim size) will probablylook a little small. Most builders use 18", 19" or 21" rims. Personally,I think 20" would be perfect, but they're pretty scarce (as are the tires togo with them).As for wood - yes the prices for Sitka at Wicks and Aircraft Spruce do seem a bitpricy, BUT.... the wood they send you will be milled to size, and inspected.When you buy rough lumber, there can always be hidden flaws that you won't finduntil you slice it up. Their prices reflect the waste that is inevitable.I have heard good things about both suppliers. Having said that, I chose to buyrough-sawn Sitka planks, and milled all my pieces. I bought planks from twodifferent local suppliers, and while one was less than half the price of the other,I was much happier with the "expensive" plank, which I paid $18/bd ft for.Every cubic inch of that plank was usable, whereas the other plank had someunusable sections. As with most things, "ya gets what ya pays for". One bit ofadvice - whether you choose to mill your own wood, or order pre-cut pieces -order one or two of Aircraft Spruce's Bargain Bag of Spruce. Lost of good usablesmaller pieces of Sitka that you will definitely find a use for while building.As has been pointed out before, the wood may seem expensive, but it actually accountsfor a small percentage of the overall cost of the aircraft.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How to contact a local Piet?
Bryan,Welcome to the group. Hope you have a good sense of humor - it will come in handywhile sifting through some of the posts.Sounds like you have a pretty good grip on how you want to build your Piet. Stickto the plans as much as possible, and keep it light.16" motorcycle wheels (I assume that you are referring to the rim size) will probablylook a little small. Most builders use 18", 19" or 21" rims. Personally,I think 20" would be perfect, but they're pretty scarce (as are the tires togo with them).As for wood - yes the prices for Sitka at Wicks and Aircraft Spruce do seem a bitpricy, BUT.... the wood they send you will be milled to size, and inspected.When you buy rough lumber, there can always be hidden flaws that you won't finduntil you slice it up. Their prices reflect the waste that is inevitable.I have heard good things about both suppliers. Having said that, I chose to buyrough-sawn Sitka planks, and milled all my pieces. I bought planks from twodifferent local suppliers, and while one was less than half the price of the other,I was much happier with the "expensive" plank, which I paid $18/bd ft for.Every cubic inch of that plank was usable, whereas the other plank had someunusable sections. As with most things, "ya gets what ya pays for". One bit ofadvice - whether you choose to mill your own wood, or order pre-cut pieces -order one or two of Aircraft Spruce's Bargain Bag of Spruce. Lost of good usablesmaller pieces of Sitka that you will definitely find a use for while building.As has been pointed out before, the wood may seem expensive, but it actually accountsfor a small percentage of the overall cost of the aircraft.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How to contact a local Piet?
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New to List
Original Posted By: Bryan Reed
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Original Posted By: "Bryan Reed"
BryanAre you anywhere near Madison, Wi.? If so there is a source in Madison Mc Cormack Lumber and it might be worth a search around the country of other sources also. Boat building shops are a good posibility.Dick N.----- Original Message -----
BryanAre you anywhere near Madison, Wi.? If so there is a source in Madison Mc Cormack Lumber and it might be worth a search around the country of other sources also. Boat building shops are a good posibility.Dick N.----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: How to contact a local Piet?
Original Posted By: "j_dunavin"
yocum137 wrote:> > > At least I'm not on 24x7 pager duty, this week.> > --Does anyone still use pagers?Seems like a waste to archive, so don't do it.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How to contact a local Piet?
yocum137 wrote:> > > At least I'm not on 24x7 pager duty, this week.> > --Does anyone still use pagers?Seems like a waste to archive, so don't do it.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How to contact a local Piet?
Pietenpol-List: Re: How to contact a local Piet?
Original Posted By: "j_dunavin"
I think that my boy and I will make our way over to the airport and check in withthe guys over there. Give them my business card and ask them to give it toTim. Besides there is a T-38 gate guard over there that he really likes to see.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How to contact a local Piet?
I think that my boy and I will make our way over to the airport and check in withthe guys over there. Give them my business card and ask them to give it toTim. Besides there is a T-38 gate guard over there that he really likes to see.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How to contact a local Piet?
Pietenpol-List: Re: New to List
Original Posted By: "Barry Davis"
I want to thank all for the welcome and loads of tips and good information. I apologizeif I did not respond to all posts as time has been hard to find thisweek. I did indeed read all of them. Unfortunately, I am still cursed as a workingman and with one in college my work load must still remain high. I am enviousto those that have more free time. Actually I am "VERY" envious to thosethat are lucky enough to fly off all those beautiful grass strips. I only hadthe pleasure to do so once and it was like landing on carpet. Since I am not a devious man I will "attempt" to refrain from comments on thebeautiful spring-like weather we will have for the next 6-months while many ofyou endure the harsh coming months. : ) I will full well expect the commentsregarding our heat here in Arizona for the months of July and August but alaswould not want to trade my 2 for your 6. : ) Cheers to all and CAVU, Bryan--------While I may not always be right, I apologize well.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I want to thank all for the welcome and loads of tips and good information. I apologizeif I did not respond to all posts as time has been hard to find thisweek. I did indeed read all of them. Unfortunately, I am still cursed as a workingman and with one in college my work load must still remain high. I am enviousto those that have more free time. Actually I am "VERY" envious to thosethat are lucky enough to fly off all those beautiful grass strips. I only hadthe pleasure to do so once and it was like landing on carpet. Since I am not a devious man I will "attempt" to refrain from comments on thebeautiful spring-like weather we will have for the next 6-months while many ofyou endure the harsh coming months. : ) I will full well expect the commentsregarding our heat here in Arizona for the months of July and August but alaswould not want to trade my 2 for your 6. : ) Cheers to all and CAVU, Bryan--------While I may not always be right, I apologize well.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: New to List
Original Posted By: "Jack"
Here are a couple of others from weeks past... even mentions Bryan by name. Haha!--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/194_ ... __________
Here are a couple of others from weeks past... even mentions Bryan by name. Haha!--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/194_ ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Vet's day
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Chuck my dad served in the Navy also, he flew F4U-Corsairs, then P2V's inthe reserves. He is my hero and I hope he can some day fly the Piet withme.JackDSMN1929T _____
Chuck my dad served in the Navy also, he flew F4U-Corsairs, then P2V's inthe reserves. He is my hero and I hope he can some day fly the Piet withme.JackDSMN1929T _____
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing height above fuselage
Original Posted By: Steve Emo
Yes, my good friend Dennis Mclain the Barntoon cartoonist is having a lot of funwith my building a Piet. : ) As a matter of fact most of his cartoons are pokingfun of somebody in our little local group. I do not yet have the fuselage going but facts won't slow Dennis down. : ) Ihave the tail feathers mostly done and would have been into the fuselage but DennisHall invited me to Tucson last Sunday. He graciously let me try his Pieton for size as well as opening up all of the inspection ports for me to see andphotograph all the inner workings. A very classy thing for him to do but forthose that know him, already knew he was that kind of guy. The hands on witha finished one has clarified a lot of little details. It also made for some verycool pictures when I stuffed my Nikon inside and snapped away. See ya, Bryan--------Workin Piet 5289BWhile I may not always be right, I apologize well.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing height above fuselage
Yes, my good friend Dennis Mclain the Barntoon cartoonist is having a lot of funwith my building a Piet. : ) As a matter of fact most of his cartoons are pokingfun of somebody in our little local group. I do not yet have the fuselage going but facts won't slow Dennis down. : ) Ihave the tail feathers mostly done and would have been into the fuselage but DennisHall invited me to Tucson last Sunday. He graciously let me try his Pieton for size as well as opening up all of the inspection ports for me to see andphotograph all the inner workings. A very classy thing for him to do but forthose that know him, already knew he was that kind of guy. The hands on witha finished one has clarified a lot of little details. It also made for some verycool pictures when I stuffed my Nikon inside and snapped away. See ya, Bryan--------Workin Piet 5289BWhile I may not always be right, I apologize well.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing height above fuselage
Original Posted By: "C N Campbell"
2 cents -- Raising the wing farther above the thrust line should make it pitchmore with power changes. It would also act as if more dihedral was added. Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 15, 2011, at 1:41 PM, "j_dunavin" wrote:> > I did a search, but was unable to find any information on wing height above thefuselage, limitations. I was able to sit in Tim's aircraft and thought thathis 2" more than was the plans specify was OK, but what if i wanted to add aninch or two more than that? Has anyone raised the wing 4"? Are there any adverseeffects? > Thanks > Joe> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 040#358040> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
2 cents -- Raising the wing farther above the thrust line should make it pitchmore with power changes. It would also act as if more dihedral was added. Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 15, 2011, at 1:41 PM, "j_dunavin" wrote:> > I did a search, but was unable to find any information on wing height above thefuselage, limitations. I was able to sit in Tim's aircraft and thought thathis 2" more than was the plans specify was OK, but what if i wanted to add aninch or two more than that? Has anyone raised the wing 4"? Are there any adverseeffects? > Thanks > Joe> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 040#358040> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Vet's day
Original Posted By: Jack
Thanks, Jack. If he flew the Corsair he's got to be OK. I flew the Corsair 1 (one) hour. My room-mate, a Corsair pilot, and I were constantly arguing over which of the Corsair and Hellcat was the better. We went to the Air Group Commander to see if we could swap airplanes for one hop. He agrfeed so I flew the Corsair and Sam flew the Hellcat. We later agreed that there was not that much difference. The Corsair was maybe 10-15 knots faster, but all in all they performed very nearly the same. The Hellcat was maybe a little tougher. I've seen them come back and land aboard the carrier when you would think they should not even be able to fly. Them were the days! C ----- Original Message -----
Thanks, Jack. If he flew the Corsair he's got to be OK. I flew the Corsair 1 (one) hour. My room-mate, a Corsair pilot, and I were constantly arguing over which of the Corsair and Hellcat was the better. We went to the Air Group Commander to see if we could swap airplanes for one hop. He agrfeed so I flew the Corsair and Sam flew the Hellcat. We later agreed that there was not that much difference. The Corsair was maybe 10-15 knots faster, but all in all they performed very nearly the same. The Hellcat was maybe a little tougher. I've seen them come back and land aboard the carrier when you would think they should not even be able to fly. Them were the days! C ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Vet's day
Original Posted By: shad bell