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2012 Ohio Piet Fly-in

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Original Posted By: "Clif Dawson"
Hello Group, Just wondering if there is any interest in a Piet Fly-in here in Ohio.- This would be the 3rd time I hosted one, but the turn out has not been great the past couple years.- Last year was a wash due to weather, and possibly hosting it on Fathers Day weekend.- I am thinking of moving it back in the year a little to get more stable summer weather vs the unpredictable spring patterns.- I am looking at hosting a fly-in with my neighbor regardless.- If any of you have any input let me know, I am trying to plan it when it won't interfere with other big fly-ins, events.- I know of at least 4 piets within 1-2 hr flight time, and it would be an easy shake down cruise to prep for brodhead.-Let MeKnow,-Shad_blank">www.aeroelectric.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet ... c.com.com/" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet ... __________
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Original Posted By: "shad bell"
Shad as long as old man weather is good count me in, but I could be overruled by the boss.- On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:04 PM, wrote:ShadI'm always up for a fly-in.- I will not have my Piet ready for this season so hopefully a Titan Tornado would still be welcome.- I plan to fly the Titan to Brodhead and Oshkosh in 2012 and as you say, it would be a good shake down cruise.- Fathers Day is a tough one due to family commitments, but other weekends might work.- This past year was really bad, weather wise that is, for fly-ins here on PA.Malcolm Morrisonhttp://home.comcast.net/~mmorrison123/Airplanes.htm
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Pietenpol-List: Where have the Models Gone?

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Original Posted By: "Jon Ferguson"
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpols and Movies

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Original Posted By: Ed Smith
Another tip for aircraft covering - One of my customers called a day or so ago and was having trouble getting the pinkededges of his tapes to iron down flat. When you finish applying your tapes,be sure to go back with a medium hot iron (not hot enough to shrink thetape) and iron down all of the pinked edges prior to applying your first coatof filler / UV block. In the Stewart System, that product is call EkoFill. Thenafter you have your first cross coat of EkoFill applied to the surface, ironthose edges down again using a piece of teflon to keep the EkoFill from transferingto your iron and smearing on the tapes. If you can't find teflon, buya box of turkey basting bags (plastic bags used to cook a turkey in the oven)at your local grocery or Wal Mart. Cut a piece of the bag out to used as ashield as you iron the pinks flat. You can do this all the way up to preppingto apply the topcoat. Detail work is what makes for an attractive covering job!M. Haught ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:23:17 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where have the Models Gone?
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Where have the Models Gone?

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Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Bryan, I'm sure that my brush seems somewhat broad, but I really didn't mean tosuggest that ALL parents are lazy or unwilling to work with their kids. In additionto that, I have been very fortunate that my wife and son have taken aninterest in my hobby, which makes it much easier for me to enjoy AND teach. I do often times have to tell my son to get off the video games when he's beenon too long, but I also know of kids who are allowed to disappear to their roomsfor hours on end to play their video games, and the parents are fine withthat as long as it doesn't disturb what THEY want to do.Good for you for threatening to throw them out. Ha! My son prefers to see whatis going on up front during an airplane ride... he seems to be soaking all thisstuff up. He's never even asked for a portable game... again, I guess I'mlucky, or perhaps he just knows that I'm not likely to get him one.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where have the Models Gone?
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Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
bkemike(at)gmail.com wrote:> A different experience was watching Jim Markle's 11 year old son get his firstride at Brodhead this year. I have never seen anyone so completely stoked onflying after having been reluctant to fly at all. You could have read a bookby the light from his face after he landed.> > Mike HardawayThat is a fact Mike. Ol Ben was indeed stoked!--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
The axelsJack TextorSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 30, 2011, at 10:05 AM, "Jack" wrote:Happy New Year Friends!=C2- Awhile back I had questions regarding =9Coiled=9D bearings.=C2- I=99ve had trouble locating these in the correct size.=C2- I don=99t mind turning down the outside of the material for a fit but hesitate turning the inside because if not done correctly it can impair the oil properties of the bearings.=C2- My questionis anybody flying with plain brass or bronze bearings?Thanks,JackDSMNX1929T=========ctric.com>www.buildersbooks.comuilthelp.commatron ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where have the Models Gone?
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Original Posted By: "H. Marvin Haught"
Hi Pieters,The model situation in Japan is the same.If you go to a one stop shop/ plaza place, 99% of the plastic models available are of characters from japanese 'manga' (comic books), with aircraft, ships etc being a very rare find.There are however still stores dedicated to scale plastic models and they do supply a wide range of kits.As far as flying models go, the old fashioned model shop is hard to find and most of the newer generation ones mostly stock ARF/RTF models . I go to one old shop in a small town owned and run by a very old couple to get my balsa supplies and stuff.Model fields are also being shutdown mainly due to urban swelling so that makes things harder as well.I am lucky enough to be able to use a site that dosn't bother people too much.During October this year (2011) I took my R/C Piet out for it's 10th year anniversary flight. The morning was perfect, no wind and silky smooth air. Took a quick shot after the flight (it was 5.42 a.m.). This is a modified kit model, all balsa and loads of fun to fly (slow & relaxing)......hopefully I can sit in my 'other Piet' and fly it on it's 10 anniversary....someday!Cheers!Mark S________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: bradandlinda tds.net
Hi Brad,Thanks for the comments on the model. I too like the Model A and radiator. They are fairly roughly fashioned to look like the real thing and I am always amazed when people (non-modellers) think the model A actually runs, it gives me a smile.The model was origionally designed for a Cox .049, but I modified it to take a =98Speed 400=99 electric motor with gear reduction to run an 8x4 prop. The electric motor allows me to fly it in a few more areas and not annoy anybody with the noise.It is really a little underpowered but I like to think it is how the full size would fly with a Model A up front, so I don=99t mind.If I ever get the full size Piet finished, I would like a Model A in it as well, love the look!CheersMark S
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Mark, awesome looking model. The photo looks like a painting! Wayne, my thoughts exactly. Gotta hold their hands a little, but get them startedearly and let them make some mistakes along the way. I gave my son (Tyler)his first knife last year for Christmas... a little 2" blade Swiss Army knife...you know, the scissors, knife, tweezers, etc. Good enough to cut a few things,but hopefully not too much. I told him to be careful because the bladewas sharp... sure enough a little while later I walk back to his room where heis holding toilet paper around his finger... he just looked at me and said,"I'm ok". Yep, he was bleeding, but not bad. Enough to know what I meant whenI said, "be careful, it's sharp". Can't even count how many times I've slicedor poked myself with an exact-o knife. Ha! Since others are sharing photos, here is one of "Mr. Reliable" as they were callinghim at the launch site. His Estes Hornet lit off on all three attempts andflew straight and true.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/p313 ... __________
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My plans are in the mail Jake, and I have been considering a steel tube fuselagefor nearly two years now. Post more pics of your progress as you go, as thereis a serious lack of steel tube fuselage construction pics.KellyRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 17:30:02 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Where have the Models Gone?
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Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: seafoamOn a Beechcraft list there was much discussion of "mechanic in a can" chemicals.IE Marvel Mystery Oil and Sea Foam. The general consensus on MMO is either you are a believer or not. Analysis showsit to be a high quality/grade of 5 weight oil (some say 3 wt) with 20% solvent(mineral spirits and Naptha), phosphorus and some wintergrean for smell. Itwas developed when oil and fuels were varying qualities and often gunked up carbsand engines. Seafoam is light hydrocarbon oil, petroleum naphtha, isopropyl alcohol; and water10%.My experience with both is that they are good for stabilization of fuel and MMOis good for unsticking valves. I also use it to "Prelube" my cylinders when Istart my engine after long storage. Good for use on old engines that have beensetting (IE old tractors.). and spray lubricants such as WD40, LPS and Corrosion X.WD40 was designed for Water Displacement. It is also a marginal lube. can cleansome parts, Rust preventative (marginal) and a penetrating oil. LPS has different products. I like LPS 2 does what WD40 claims but better, especiallyat lubricating.LPS3 his a heavy Waxy spray that has some lube properties but is really good asa protective coating. Corrosion X is an electrician in a spray can. Well OK, It is good a freeing upelectrical components and stopping corrosion. I spray the interior of my 1948Bonanza with Corrosion X at every annual. I have it leaking out the seams of theplane. Blue Skies, Steve D ----- Original Message -----
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Hi Curt,Hadn't thought about making a Piet out of Lego, it looks pretty good!CheersMark S-----Original Message-----
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I'm CRUSHED! No 'vair powered Piets?Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
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