Pietenpol-List: Floorboards and rudder pedals...
Pietenpol-List: Floorboards and rudder pedals...
Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
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Original Posted By: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP
Hope everyone has been enjoying building season as it sure has not been flyingseason at least not in Seattle lately.For those of you with wooden fuselages, you don't have to worry about floorboards- the floorboards ARE the structure itself...! Well for the steel-tube versionI needed to look at floor design details from Cubs, Taylorcrafts, Wacos, etc...My floorboards will be bolted to tabs that will get welded to the structure.I laminated the floor panels a few months ago but had to revise them this pastweekend to fit them around the new rudder pedals and brake cylinders I got fromAircraft Spruce. Not all the joints are fully cluster welded yet but it's coming along...Regards,--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/floo ... ______Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 09:01:26 -0800 (PST)
Hope everyone has been enjoying building season as it sure has not been flyingseason at least not in Seattle lately.For those of you with wooden fuselages, you don't have to worry about floorboards- the floorboards ARE the structure itself...! Well for the steel-tube versionI needed to look at floor design details from Cubs, Taylorcrafts, Wacos, etc...My floorboards will be bolted to tabs that will get welded to the structure.I laminated the floor panels a few months ago but had to revise them this pastweekend to fit them around the new rudder pedals and brake cylinders I got fromAircraft Spruce. Not all the joints are fully cluster welded yet but it's coming along...Regards,--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/floo ... ______Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 09:01:26 -0800 (PST)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Floorboards and rudder pedals...
Original Posted By: hvandervoo(at)aol.com
I was curious how to get the 1/2" 20ga. tube connecting the control sticksflattened to one side. When I heat and squeeze the tubing, it tends touniformly come together like the ends of the rudder bar. I haven't triedheat and a hammer. I double checked, I couldn't find a rubber bar, but the plans do specificallycall for a Rubber stick grip on the control stick.If that Kenyan's airplane will fly, I think Mike's will too... just use lightrudder control force.Curt MerdanFlower Mound, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Floorboards and rudder pedals...
I was curious how to get the 1/2" 20ga. tube connecting the control sticksflattened to one side. When I heat and squeeze the tubing, it tends touniformly come together like the ends of the rudder bar. I haven't triedheat and a hammer. I double checked, I couldn't find a rubber bar, but the plans do specificallycall for a Rubber stick grip on the control stick.If that Kenyan's airplane will fly, I think Mike's will too... just use lightrudder control force.Curt MerdanFlower Mound, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Floorboards and rudder pedals...
Original Posted By: aerocarjake
Jake,I am currently building a steel tube fuselage AirplaneRecommended for lightweight floorboards is 032 sheet aluminum (2024)Bolted to tabs, tabs welded to tubing with 12 inch spacing.Rudder pedals and brake cylinders are mounted to tubing.HansWaller, TXNX 15KV-----Original Message-----
Jake,I am currently building a steel tube fuselage AirplaneRecommended for lightweight floorboards is 032 sheet aluminum (2024)Bolted to tabs, tabs welded to tubing with 12 inch spacing.Rudder pedals and brake cylinders are mounted to tubing.HansWaller, TXNX 15KV-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Floorboards and rudder pedals...
Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: seafoam> Fantastic stuff. I have a friend with 2 real old tractors that were> running real rough. He was getting ready to overhaul the engines > when I> told him about Sea Foam, and after a short running time they > smoothed out.> He calls it "tune-up" in a can. I believe it also prevents > varnishing in> stored gas/engines. Brad Williams NX29NX> > On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 7:52 AM, H. Marvin Haught wrote:> > > I am a total believer in the stuff! I usually buy auto fuel when prices> > are good and store it in 2 55 gallon barrels. I treat the fuel with Sea> > Foam. I had an 18 hp Lawnmower that started running quite badly with> > sticking valves. My neighbor caught me just as I was laying everything out> > to pull the head, asking if I had tried Sea Foam. Ran to the store, got a> > can, poured it in the fuel. In about 5 minutes running time, the engine> > smoothed out and has run fine ever since. And that's been about 2 years.> > My Pacer has a 125 Lyc and the typical carburetor. Every time I run> > Aviation gas in it, the needle valve sticks. Coming back from Oshkosh, the> > valve stuck, causing a run rich condition. When I got home, I poured in a> > bottle of Sea Foam. Again five minutes of running time and the mixture> > worked fine. Sea Foam is good stuff - equal to Marvel Mystery oil.> >> > M. Haught> > On Dec 30, 2011, at 2:05 AM, Clif Dawson wrote:> >> > Anybody ever encountered this stuff?> >> >> > http://www.seafoamsales.com/> >> > *> >> > href="blockedhttp://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com> > href="blockedhttp://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com> > href="blockedhttp://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com> > href="blockedhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// ... ntribution> > href="blockedhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-L ... enpol-List> > href="blockedhttp://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com> > href="blockedhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// ... ntribution> > *> >> >> >> > *> >> > *> >> >________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Floorboards and rudder pedals...
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: seafoam> Fantastic stuff. I have a friend with 2 real old tractors that were> running real rough. He was getting ready to overhaul the engines > when I> told him about Sea Foam, and after a short running time they > smoothed out.> He calls it "tune-up" in a can. I believe it also prevents > varnishing in> stored gas/engines. Brad Williams NX29NX> > On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 7:52 AM, H. Marvin Haught wrote:> > > I am a total believer in the stuff! I usually buy auto fuel when prices> > are good and store it in 2 55 gallon barrels. I treat the fuel with Sea> > Foam. I had an 18 hp Lawnmower that started running quite badly with> > sticking valves. My neighbor caught me just as I was laying everything out> > to pull the head, asking if I had tried Sea Foam. Ran to the store, got a> > can, poured it in the fuel. In about 5 minutes running time, the engine> > smoothed out and has run fine ever since. And that's been about 2 years.> > My Pacer has a 125 Lyc and the typical carburetor. Every time I run> > Aviation gas in it, the needle valve sticks. Coming back from Oshkosh, the> > valve stuck, causing a run rich condition. When I got home, I poured in a> > bottle of Sea Foam. Again five minutes of running time and the mixture> > worked fine. Sea Foam is good stuff - equal to Marvel Mystery oil.> >> > M. Haught> > On Dec 30, 2011, at 2:05 AM, Clif Dawson wrote:> >> > Anybody ever encountered this stuff?> >> >> > http://www.seafoamsales.com/> >> > *> >> > href="blockedhttp://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com> > href="blockedhttp://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com> > href="blockedhttp://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com> > href="blockedhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// ... ntribution> > href="blockedhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-L ... enpol-List> > href="blockedhttp://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com> > href="blockedhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// ... ntribution> > *> >> >> >> > *> >> > *> >> >________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Floorboards and rudder pedals...
Pietenpol-List: Re: Floorboards and rudder pedals...
Original Posted By: "regchief"
The axelsJack TextorSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 30, 2011, at 10:05 AM, "Jack" > wrote:Happy New Year Friends! Awhile back I had questions regarding =93oiled=94bearings. I=92ve had trouble locating these in the correct size. I don=92tmind turning down the outside of the material for a fit but hesitate turningthe inside because if not done correctly it can impair the oil properties ofthe bearings. My question=85is anybody flying with plain brass or bronzebearings?Thanks,JackDSMNX1929T=========ctric.com>www.buildersbooks.comuilthelp.commatron ... =====ollow target=_blank>www.aeroelectric.com/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>www.buildersbooks.comofollow target=_blank>www.homebuilthelp.comllow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution" rel=nofollowtarget=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet ... cs.comllow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution__ ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Floorboards and rudder pedals...
The axelsJack TextorSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 30, 2011, at 10:05 AM, "Jack" > wrote:Happy New Year Friends! Awhile back I had questions regarding =93oiled=94bearings. I=92ve had trouble locating these in the correct size. I don=92tmind turning down the outside of the material for a fit but hesitate turningthe inside because if not done correctly it can impair the oil properties ofthe bearings. My question=85is anybody flying with plain brass or bronzebearings?Thanks,JackDSMNX1929T=========ctric.com>www.buildersbooks.comuilthelp.commatron ... =====ollow target=_blank>www.aeroelectric.com/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>www.buildersbooks.comofollow target=_blank>www.homebuilthelp.comllow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution" rel=nofollowtarget=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet ... cs.comllow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution__ ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Floorboards and rudder pedals...
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Floorboards and rudder pedals...
Original Posted By: Hans Van Der Voort
I am a total believer in the stuff! I usually buy auto fuel when prices are good and store it in 2 55 gallon barrels. I treat the fuel with Sea Foam. I had an 18 hp Lawnmower that started running quite badly with sticking valves. My neighbor caught me just as I was laying everything out to pull the head, asking if I had tried Sea Foam. Ran to the store, got a can, poured it in the fuel. In about 5 minutes running time, the engine smoothed out and has run fine ever since. And that's been about 2 years. My Pacer has a 125 Lyc and the typical carburetor. Every time I run Aviation gas in it, the needle valve sticks. Coming back from Oshkosh, the valve stuck, causing a run rich condition. When I got home, I poured in a bottle of Sea Foam. Again five minutes of running time and the mixture worked fine. Sea Foam is good stuff - equal to Marvel Mystery oil. M. Haught On Dec 30, 2011, at 2:05 AM, Clif Dawson wrote:> Anybody ever encountered this stuff?> > > http://www.seafoamsales.com/> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Floorboards and rudder pedals...
I am a total believer in the stuff! I usually buy auto fuel when prices are good and store it in 2 55 gallon barrels. I treat the fuel with Sea Foam. I had an 18 hp Lawnmower that started running quite badly with sticking valves. My neighbor caught me just as I was laying everything out to pull the head, asking if I had tried Sea Foam. Ran to the store, got a can, poured it in the fuel. In about 5 minutes running time, the engine smoothed out and has run fine ever since. And that's been about 2 years. My Pacer has a 125 Lyc and the typical carburetor. Every time I run Aviation gas in it, the needle valve sticks. Coming back from Oshkosh, the valve stuck, causing a run rich condition. When I got home, I poured in a bottle of Sea Foam. Again five minutes of running time and the mixture worked fine. Sea Foam is good stuff - equal to Marvel Mystery oil. M. Haught On Dec 30, 2011, at 2:05 AM, Clif Dawson wrote:> Anybody ever encountered this stuff?> > > http://www.seafoamsales.com/> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Floorboards and rudder pedals...
Original Posted By: "Mark Stanley"
Howdy... I post photos on the ROTEC site as well as Matronics... http://www.rotecengines.com/Projects/JakeSchultz.html but I will also post some more here in a week or so......... you are right thatthe plans are not nearly as detailed for the steel version. I used two layers of 1/8 inch marine plywood and a top layer of "bubinga" veneer....All laminated together in a jig to follow the curve of the bottom of thefuselage. I am working on many, many metal fittings these days, for the control system, theseat belt attach points, and everywhere else where someting attaches to thefuselage.--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Howdy... I post photos on the ROTEC site as well as Matronics... http://www.rotecengines.com/Projects/JakeSchultz.html but I will also post some more here in a week or so......... you are right thatthe plans are not nearly as detailed for the steel version. I used two layers of 1/8 inch marine plywood and a top layer of "bubinga" veneer....All laminated together in a jig to follow the curve of the bottom of thefuselage. I am working on many, many metal fittings these days, for the control system, theseat belt attach points, and everywhere else where someting attaches to thefuselage.--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Floorboards and rudder pedals...
Original Posted By: "regchief"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Last flight of 2011Here is one way to put the finishing touch on you plane!http://biggeekdad.com/2011/12/best-airp ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Floorboards and rudder pedals...
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Last flight of 2011Here is one way to put the finishing touch on you plane!http://biggeekdad.com/2011/12/best-airp ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Floorboards and rudder pedals...
Pietenpol-List: Re: 2012 Ohio Piet Fly-in
Original Posted By: "DaveG601XL"
Thanks Jake, I enjoyed the pics, and looking forward to more. I see you widenedthe fuselage by two inches, is it built to plans, other than that, or did youmake other mods?KellyRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 2012 Ohio Piet Fly-in
Thanks Jake, I enjoyed the pics, and looking forward to more. I see you widenedthe fuselage by two inches, is it built to plans, other than that, or did youmake other mods?KellyRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 2012 Ohio Piet Fly-in
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Shad,My Aircamper is still under construction, but count me in. My Zenith loves grassstrips.--------David Gallagher601 XL-B: flying, 200+ hours nowNext project: Pietenpol/GN-1Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Shad,My Aircamper is still under construction, but count me in. My Zenith loves grassstrips.--------David Gallagher601 XL-B: flying, 200+ hours nowNext project: Pietenpol/GN-1Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________