Original Posted By: jeff wilson
My Piet has a rudder bar in the back and pedals up front, and I fly it from bothseats.I like the bar a lot better and I was extremely skeptical about it when I firstsat in a Piet.I think it's a matter of geometry. Since the pedal is a class two lever and thelinkage attach point moves in an arc, it's not a linear thing... and in thewrong direction (most sensitive near neutral and less sensitive as travel progresses).Pedal hookups for rear seat usage may be different though.ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 06:11:41 -0800 (PST)
Pietenpol-List: Re: Rudder Pedals vs Rudder Bar
RE: Pietenpol-List: Wood Lift Struts
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Jeff,I'm no expert, but I have made 3 sets, so far, one of which is currentlyflying on Kevin Purtee's Fat Bottom Girl. I do not think that a solid strut,made from a perfect piece of wood, would be any less strong.the key wordbeing "perfect." Good luck finding that. Laminating, allows you to useboards that may have imperfections (knots, grain variance, warpage, etc) byripping and using the good portions. In my case, I bought 7/8" hickoryboards, ripped them to 1 1/16", turned them and glued them so that Icreated 1 1/16" thick struts, made up of, at most, 7/8" rips. This allowsyou to turn a flat grained board into vertical grain rips, and warpage canbe almost eliminated in the gluing process. Happy Building,Gary from CoolNX308MB
Jeff,I'm no expert, but I have made 3 sets, so far, one of which is currentlyflying on Kevin Purtee's Fat Bottom Girl. I do not think that a solid strut,made from a perfect piece of wood, would be any less strong.the key wordbeing "perfect." Good luck finding that. Laminating, allows you to useboards that may have imperfections (knots, grain variance, warpage, etc) byripping and using the good portions. In my case, I bought 7/8" hickoryboards, ripped them to 1 1/16", turned them and glued them so that Icreated 1 1/16" thick struts, made up of, at most, 7/8" rips. This allowsyou to turn a flat grained board into vertical grain rips, and warpage canbe almost eliminated in the gluing process. Happy Building,Gary from CoolNX308MB
RE: Pietenpol-List: Wood Lift Struts
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Another advantage of laminations is that if a crack were to develop, it willstop at the glue line, whereas in a solid piece it will continue topropogate.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____
Another advantage of laminations is that if a crack were to develop, it willstop at the glue line, whereas in a solid piece it will continue topropogate.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood Lift Struts
Original Posted By: "kevinpurtee"
The front pedals on a plans-built Piet, if connected to the rudder bar with cables,would be able to fold flat to the floor, if so desired. Folding flat withbrakes is beyond the capabilities of my limited brain. Why would anyone evenwant or need brakes in the front?Making the front pedals adjustable fore and aft would qualify as overkill, I think(never mind how complicated it might be).But the throw-over yoke is just silly for a Piet. :)Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood Lift Struts
The front pedals on a plans-built Piet, if connected to the rudder bar with cables,would be able to fold flat to the floor, if so desired. Folding flat withbrakes is beyond the capabilities of my limited brain. Why would anyone evenwant or need brakes in the front?Making the front pedals adjustable fore and aft would qualify as overkill, I think(never mind how complicated it might be).But the throw-over yoke is just silly for a Piet. :)Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood Lift Struts
Original Posted By: "Greg Cardinal"
Just a thought, kind of a corollary to what Gary said: if you're concerned, followthe plans. If I had followed the plans I would not be replacing wood struts.--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeNX899KPAustin/Georgetown, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Just a thought, kind of a corollary to what Gary said: if you're concerned, followthe plans. If I had followed the plans I would not be replacing wood struts.--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeNX899KPAustin/Georgetown, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood Lift Struts
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Forward from Douwe Blumberg:Hey everyonePer a few requests, here's some shots of the new exhaust/muffler/heat shroud combo. The one shows it kinda on the plane and the other shows the guts. You can see the back portion is a muffler and the front portion, being isolated from any gases, will become my heat muff when wrapped with some stainless door springs or something.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood Lift Struts
Forward from Douwe Blumberg:Hey everyonePer a few requests, here's some shots of the new exhaust/muffler/heat shroud combo. The one shows it kinda on the plane and the other shows the guts. You can see the back portion is a muffler and the front portion, being isolated from any gases, will become my heat muff when wrapped with some stainless door springs or something.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood Lift Struts
Original Posted By: "Ray Krause"
Not wanting to hijack the thread, I just wanted to offer a couple of other threadsthat also discussed this topic recently. Hope they are helpful.http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... hlightThis thread describes how I did mine.http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Not wanting to hijack the thread, I just wanted to offer a couple of other threadsthat also discussed this topic recently. Hope they are helpful.http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... hlightThis thread describes how I did mine.http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood Lift Struts
Original Posted By: "Gboothe5"
Gary,I know you have published photos of your beautiful attachments for the spars. Would be so kind as to re-send them and a sketch, or photo, of the spar make-up?Thanks,Ray KrauseWaiex and Sky Scout----- Original Message -----
Gary,I know you have published photos of your beautiful attachments for the spars. Would be so kind as to re-send them and a sketch, or photo, of the spar make-up?Thanks,Ray KrauseWaiex and Sky Scout----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood Lift Struts
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Ray,I am assuming that you mean the cabanes, as the wing strut attachments arenot yet complete. #1178 shows the make-up. As soon as my strut fittings aredone, I'll post pics, too.GaryNX308MB-----Original Message-----
Ray,I am assuming that you mean the cabanes, as the wing strut attachments arenot yet complete. #1178 shows the make-up. As soon as my strut fittings aredone, I'll post pics, too.GaryNX308MB-----Original Message-----