Original Posted By: Jim Boyer
Did anyone catch Douwe on Fow and Friends this morning? He and members of the Army who served in Afganistan were on being interviewed about Douwes sculpture. It was a great segment and lasted about 4 minutes.Great job DouweDick N.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 03:29:52 +0000 (UTC)
Pietenpol-List: Douwe Blumberg
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Vet's day
Original Posted By: Wizzard187
USAF 1971-1991B-52 Pilot plus 2 tours as an Electrical Engineer when they had too many pilots.DaveRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Vet's day
USAF 1971-1991B-52 Pilot plus 2 tours as an Electrical Engineer when they had too many pilots.DaveRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Vet's day
RE: Pietenpol-List: I did it!
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Congrats, Shad!Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____
Congrats, Shad!Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____
Re: Pietenpol-List: I did it!
Original Posted By: Robert Bush
If you missed it, you can see it here... http://video.foxnews.com/v/126954830600 ... =86912Good stuff Douwe!--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I did it!
If you missed it, you can see it here... http://video.foxnews.com/v/126954830600 ... =86912Good stuff Douwe!--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I did it!
Pietenpol-List: Re: I did it!
Original Posted By: Timothy Willis
USAF 89-92Airframe structural repair, corrosion control. Minot AFB, Minot ND.B-52H KC-135A/R.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 7#357657le, List Admin.le, List Admin.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:35:20 -0600Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: I did it!
USAF 89-92Airframe structural repair, corrosion control. Minot AFB, Minot ND.B-52H KC-135A/R.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 7#357657le, List Admin.le, List Admin.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:35:20 -0600Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: I did it!
Pietenpol-List: Re: Vet's day
Original Posted By: "regchief"
Congratulations Shad. Proud for you!Randy BushNX294RBSent from my iPhoneOn Nov 11, 2011, at 2:12 PM, shad bell wrote:> > I spent the last week in Nashville at Baker School Of Aeronautics, and I am proud to say I am now an I.A. I even mannaged to score 100% on the test, I guess the sun shines on a dog's ass every once in a while..........Now I am gonna have to figure out how to work on them there continentals, and lycomin's.> > Shad> > ===============================================================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Vet's day
Congratulations Shad. Proud for you!Randy BushNX294RBSent from my iPhoneOn Nov 11, 2011, at 2:12 PM, shad bell wrote:> > I spent the last week in Nashville at Baker School Of Aeronautics, and I am proud to say I am now an I.A. I even mannaged to score 100% on the test, I guess the sun shines on a dog's ass every once in a while..........Now I am gonna have to figure out how to work on them there continentals, and lycomin's.> > Shad> > ===============================================================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Vet's day
Pietenpol-List: Re: Vet's day
Original Posted By: "flea"
USAF 1977-1987ANG 1987-1993KC-135 Crew chiefand now Civil Air Patrol 2008-current,, helping the next generation to have thesame love for airplanes as I have, and training in search and resque,, like Ispent all day today! God willing, I won't be ever looking for anybody here!!KellyRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Vet's day
USAF 1977-1987ANG 1987-1993KC-135 Crew chiefand now Civil Air Patrol 2008-current,, helping the next generation to have thesame love for airplanes as I have, and training in search and resque,, like Ispent all day today! God willing, I won't be ever looking for anybody here!!KellyRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Vet's day
Original Posted By: Matt Dralle
USAF 89-92Airframe structural repair, corrosion control. Minot AFB, Minot ND.B-52H KC-135A/R.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:31:14 -0800
USAF 89-92Airframe structural repair, corrosion control. Minot AFB, Minot ND.B-52H KC-135A/R.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:31:14 -0800
Pietenpol-List: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
Original Posted By: shad bell
Pietenpol-List: Re: How to contact a local Piet?
Original Posted By: John Theron
Finally made it over to see Tim and his Piet!Great guy and it sure was nice of him to let me sit in his aircraft and ask a bunchof questions. I'm glad I got to sit in one finally. At first i didn't realize that his wing is2" taller than the plans. I guess I'm going to have to do the same for ours.I also liked his raised turtle deck. Next time I'm bringing my dad... I'm not so sure he'll be able to get in and outvery easily. Anyway i sure am glad i now know someone locally who has a piet whom we can goto for help. Thanks guys!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Finally made it over to see Tim and his Piet!Great guy and it sure was nice of him to let me sit in his aircraft and ask a bunchof questions. I'm glad I got to sit in one finally. At first i didn't realize that his wing is2" taller than the plans. I guess I'm going to have to do the same for ours.I also liked his raised turtle deck. Next time I'm bringing my dad... I'm not so sure he'll be able to get in and outvery easily. Anyway i sure am glad i now know someone locally who has a piet whom we can goto for help. Thanks guys!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Wing rib question
Original Posted By: johnwoods(at)westnet.com.au
Has anyone had cause to pre bend the lower wing rib section forward of the front spar or have pre-bent it anyway?John________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:08:03 +0800 (WST)
Has anyone had cause to pre bend the lower wing rib section forward of the front spar or have pre-bent it anyway?John________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:08:03 +0800 (WST)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing rib question
Original Posted By: gboothe5(at)comcast.net
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing rib questionHas anyone had cause to pre bend the lower wing rib section forward of thefront spar or have pre bent it anyway?John________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing rib question
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing rib questionHas anyone had cause to pre bend the lower wing rib section forward of thefront spar or have pre bent it anyway?John________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing rib question
Original Posted By: Dave Millikan
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________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 17:48:32 -0800 (PST)
RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing rib question
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
John,I found no need to pre-bend the lower piece.Gary BootheNX308MB
John,I found no need to pre-bend the lower piece.Gary BootheNX308MB
Pietenpol-List: Re: "Flea" Vet's day
Original Posted By: "Greg Cardinal"
I don't know, it was a long time ago, but maybe. I was 5 fms sheetmetal shop.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I don't know, it was a long time ago, but maybe. I was 5 fms sheetmetal shop.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing rib question
Original Posted By: John Theron
Hi John,The ribs on NX18235 were built using spruce. I didn't pre-bend either the upper or lower capstrips. They went directly from the boiling water into the rib jig. I allowed the capstrips to dry and cool before installing the gussets using Aerolite.This worked very well for me.Greg Cardinal----- Original Message -----
Hi John,The ribs on NX18235 were built using spruce. I didn't pre-bend either the upper or lower capstrips. They went directly from the boiling water into the rib jig. I allowed the capstrips to dry and cool before installing the gussets using Aerolite.This worked very well for me.Greg Cardinal----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Douwe Blumberg
Original Posted By: "bender"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: RE : Under camberI agree with John. Without the under camber, it's a different airfoil. Might have better characteristics - might have worse but it's different. I didn't find covering the undercamber difficult if you follow the instructions in the PolyFiber manual. And, the under camber is a conversation piece.Matt Paxton________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Douwe Blumberg
Subject: Pietenpol-List: RE : Under camberI agree with John. Without the under camber, it's a different airfoil. Might have better characteristics - might have worse but it's different. I didn't find covering the undercamber difficult if you follow the instructions in the PolyFiber manual. And, the under camber is a conversation piece.Matt Paxton________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Douwe Blumberg
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing rib question
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Wow....Douwe... i'm impressed... beautiful work..i looked at your website...i had no idea such a great artist lived so nearjeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing rib question
Wow....Douwe... i'm impressed... beautiful work..i looked at your website...i had no idea such a great artist lived so nearjeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing rib question
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing rib question
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Gotta say that changing something as critical as the airfoil, just because onethinks it will be "a pain to cover" sounds like a drastic course of action totake, with unknown consequences. Sure hope that anyone considering such a movewould do all of the necessary homework to anticipate all of the repercussionsthat would result.On another note, Michael, you say that the Riblett 612 has a gentler curve underneaththan the Pietenpol FC-10 airfoil. I agree that the undercamber is lesssevere, but I believe that there is MORE curvature towards the nose of the rib(see attached comparison of the two airfoils). Whether this requires pre-bendingis another question. Sounds as though some builders have felt it necessaryand some have not.Personally, I built the Pietenpol FC-10 ribs, and did not need to pre-bend thelower capstrips.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fc10 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing rib question
Gotta say that changing something as critical as the airfoil, just because onethinks it will be "a pain to cover" sounds like a drastic course of action totake, with unknown consequences. Sure hope that anyone considering such a movewould do all of the necessary homework to anticipate all of the repercussionsthat would result.On another note, Michael, you say that the Riblett 612 has a gentler curve underneaththan the Pietenpol FC-10 airfoil. I agree that the undercamber is lesssevere, but I believe that there is MORE curvature towards the nose of the rib(see attached comparison of the two airfoils). Whether this requires pre-bendingis another question. Sounds as though some builders have felt it necessaryand some have not.Personally, I built the Pietenpol FC-10 ribs, and did not need to pre-bend thelower capstrips.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fc10 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing rib question
Original Posted By: "TOM STINEMETZE"
FWIW... I pre-soaked/bent my top and bottom capstrip. Not sure if it was necessaryfor the bottoms, but it was a matter of cutting a simple form from a scrap2x6 and clamping a batch in place every few days when I was building ribs. Had to do it for the top caps anyway, so I doubt that it added much to my overalleffort. I will say that I didn't have to fight any of the caps on my jig,and the ribs came out as near to identical as I can tell. If I were to do itover, I would do it the same. As for ease of covering... in the early stages of planning I was considering acylindrical wing. No bends, no curves, no corners, no sharp edges and I couldjust roll them out of the way when I wasn't working on them... the ideal coveringjob. But, it got very complicated on the drawing board because I kept confusingthe LE and TE. Not sure how it might have flown, but hey, at least thecovering would have been easy.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:26:19 -0600
FWIW... I pre-soaked/bent my top and bottom capstrip. Not sure if it was necessaryfor the bottoms, but it was a matter of cutting a simple form from a scrap2x6 and clamping a batch in place every few days when I was building ribs. Had to do it for the top caps anyway, so I doubt that it added much to my overalleffort. I will say that I didn't have to fight any of the caps on my jig,and the ribs came out as near to identical as I can tell. If I were to do itover, I would do it the same. As for ease of covering... in the early stages of planning I was considering acylindrical wing. No bends, no curves, no corners, no sharp edges and I couldjust roll them out of the way when I wasn't working on them... the ideal coveringjob. But, it got very complicated on the drawing board because I kept confusingthe LE and TE. Not sure how it might have flown, but hey, at least thecovering would have been easy.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:26:19 -0600
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing rib question
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
It almost worked.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing rib question
It almost worked.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing rib question
Pietenpol-List: Wonder why this never caught on? ATT: Douwe Blumberg
Original Posted By: helspersew
That pic was posted to the Antique Airfield sight. I think Douwe ought to make these. This is right up his alley.Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
That pic was posted to the Antique Airfield sight. I think Douwe ought to make these. This is right up his alley.Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----