Original Posted By: airlion
Jealousy. :-)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKK_n4Ac ... dClifDem's da brakes! I wonder why there are so many jokes about banjos and banjo players? Jack Phillips________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 06:16:18 -0700 (PDT)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Of electronics and banjos
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Of electronics and banjos
Original Posted By: "Chris"
Dan, Thanks, The pivot, as per the drawing, is thetwo clevis pins at the bottom. The L arm rotatesaround the point of the L which lies above thecenter of the pads. As the top of the L is suckedin by the cable the two bolts that go through tothe rear plate and pad pull that plate outwards.Thus the the pads are pulled toward each otheronto the disc. There's less than 1/16" totalclearance between the pads and disc ( 1/32"each side) .the back plate is 1/4" thick and doesn'tflex at all. The main plate is 1/8" and flexes a tinybit, hardly visible at all.I have to appologize as I forgot to reduce therather large size of the drawing. I always scanand take pics at high rez then reduce them. Thismakes a huge difference when someone wantsto enlarge them. They go a lot larger beforebecoming fuzzy than if you start small.Anyway, here it is again in more reasonable size.The pivot is the clevis on the left.ClifA mile of road will take you a mile, but a mile of runway will take you anywhere.>> Clif,>how do they work?> Thanks,> Dan________________________________________________________________________________
Dan, Thanks, The pivot, as per the drawing, is thetwo clevis pins at the bottom. The L arm rotatesaround the point of the L which lies above thecenter of the pads. As the top of the L is suckedin by the cable the two bolts that go through tothe rear plate and pad pull that plate outwards.Thus the the pads are pulled toward each otheronto the disc. There's less than 1/16" totalclearance between the pads and disc ( 1/32"each side) .the back plate is 1/4" thick and doesn'tflex at all. The main plate is 1/8" and flexes a tinybit, hardly visible at all.I have to appologize as I forgot to reduce therather large size of the drawing. I always scanand take pics at high rez then reduce them. Thismakes a huge difference when someone wantsto enlarge them. They go a lot larger beforebecoming fuzzy than if you start small.Anyway, here it is again in more reasonable size.The pivot is the clevis on the left.ClifA mile of road will take you a mile, but a mile of runway will take you anywhere.>> Clif,>how do they work?> Thanks,> Dan________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing wires and ribs
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
MarioNo you did not do anything wrong. Ii is quite common for the cross wire tohit the rib upright. You can move the rib over a bit so it will clear. Ididn't notice this until it was too late and I had to cut away the rib bracethen add a reinforcement to the upright.ChrisSacramento, CaWestcoastpiet.com-----Original Message-----
MarioNo you did not do anything wrong. Ii is quite common for the cross wire tohit the rib upright. You can move the rib over a bit so it will clear. Ididn't notice this until it was too late and I had to cut away the rib bracethen add a reinforcement to the upright.ChrisSacramento, CaWestcoastpiet.com-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing wires and ribs
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
Hello Jim, Sent you a PM, sounds like an excuse for me to get over there,RickRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing wires and ribs
Hello Jim, Sent you a PM, sounds like an excuse for me to get over there,RickRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing wires and ribs
Original Posted By: giacummo
Mario,Very nice. I had a few places with some interference also. I did a little sanding with a round file, and added some support on the opposite side of the rib member by gluing on another stick of spruce. Anybody disagree with this?PS Please remind me what country you are from?Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
Mario,Very nice. I had a few places with some interference also. I did a little sanding with a round file, and added some support on the opposite side of the rib member by gluing on another stick of spruce. Anybody disagree with this?PS Please remind me what country you are from?Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing wires and ribs
Original Posted By: "giacummo"
I gave up on any hope of more snow this year...(not that I'm complaining!)...andpulled the skis off and put the wheels back on. But I did fly it once backin January with my daughter. Here is a quick video of it from my buddy and airportowner Stan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YByVOzQbWvsDon EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing wires and ribs
I gave up on any hope of more snow this year...(not that I'm complaining!)...andpulled the skis off and put the wheels back on. But I did fly it once backin January with my daughter. Here is a quick video of it from my buddy and airportowner Stan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YByVOzQbWvsDon EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing wires and ribs
Original Posted By: Ben Charvet
Reading your post makes me more calm. Thank you.Dan; from Uruguay... Ciudad de la costa. faaaar away ;o)--------Mario Giacummohttp://vgmk1.blogspot.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 07:50:33 -0400
Reading your post makes me more calm. Thank you.Dan; from Uruguay... Ciudad de la costa. faaaar away ;o)--------Mario Giacummohttp://vgmk1.blogspot.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 07:50:33 -0400
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing wires and ribs
Original Posted By: "Jerry Dotson"
Great Douwe! Love the wheels!Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing wires and ribs
Great Douwe! Love the wheels!Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing wires and ribs
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing wires and ribs
Original Posted By: "giacummo"
Mario I had a similar problem. It was not touching but was real close. I wrappedthe stick and the cable with Scotch 130C which is a vulcanizing rubber electricaltape. The I wrapped the stick and the cable so it couldn't vibrate. Notreal pretty but works .do not archive--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009now covering and painting21" wheelsLycoming O-235 C2CJay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing wires and ribs
Mario I had a similar problem. It was not touching but was real close. I wrappedthe stick and the cable with Scotch 130C which is a vulcanizing rubber electricaltape. The I wrapped the stick and the cable so it couldn't vibrate. Notreal pretty but works .do not archive--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009now covering and painting21" wheelsLycoming O-235 C2CJay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing wires and ribs
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Ski Flying
Original Posted By: "pineymb"
Jerry, yes it is, it came with the engine I bought, I do not assembled it yet butevrything looks very very nice.Jerry Dotson wrote:> Mario I had a similar problem. It was not touching but was real close. I wrappedthe stick and the cable with Scotch 130C which is a vulcanizing rubber electricaltape. The I wrapped the stick and the cable so it couldn't vibrate. Notreal pretty but works .> You project is very nice, beautiful. Is the propeller a Beech Roby?> > do not archive--------Mario Giacummohttp://vgmk1.blogspot.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Ski Flying
Jerry, yes it is, it came with the engine I bought, I do not assembled it yet butevrything looks very very nice.Jerry Dotson wrote:> Mario I had a similar problem. It was not touching but was real close. I wrappedthe stick and the cable with Scotch 130C which is a vulcanizing rubber electricaltape. The I wrapped the stick and the cable so it couldn't vibrate. Notreal pretty but works .> You project is very nice, beautiful. Is the propeller a Beech Roby?> > do not archive--------Mario Giacummohttp://vgmk1.blogspot.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Ski Flying
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing wires and ribs
Original Posted By: "Piet2015"
Excellent footage Don!!!!! I can relate - was only able to get up twice myselfdue to lack of snow and warm temperatures. Took the skis off yesterday and puton the wheels, should be good to go this weekend off our grass strip, expectingtemps in the 20 deg C range.Gotta like that virgin snow where no other machine has gone.--------Adrian MWinnipeg, MBCanadaRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing wires and ribs
Excellent footage Don!!!!! I can relate - was only able to get up twice myselfdue to lack of snow and warm temperatures. Took the skis off yesterday and puton the wheels, should be good to go this weekend off our grass strip, expectingtemps in the 20 deg C range.Gotta like that virgin snow where no other machine has gone.--------Adrian MWinnipeg, MBCanadaRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing wires and ribs
Original Posted By: "Gboothe5"
80 plus years and no one has documented which sticks need to be moved during therib building phase so there is no interference during wing assembly??????"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." -- Benjamin FranklinRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
80 plus years and no one has documented which sticks need to be moved during therib building phase so there is no interference during wing assembly??????"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." -- Benjamin FranklinRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing wires and ribs
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I guess the short answer is, "NO." The practical answer is, "Once theoffending uprights are filed and re-enforced, there is no interference."Every Piet is different, and identifying which sticks should be moved wouldbe a waste of time. Furthermore, some builders prefer to anchor their ribsat set dimensions on the spar, while others let them float until the wiresare placed. Sorry, I do not see your name on your post. It would also be nice to know atwhat stage you are in your project, where you are from, and, mostimportantly, "How will you handle this part of the construction?"Gary from Cool-----Original Message-----
I guess the short answer is, "NO." The practical answer is, "Once theoffending uprights are filed and re-enforced, there is no interference."Every Piet is different, and identifying which sticks should be moved wouldbe a waste of time. Furthermore, some builders prefer to anchor their ribsat set dimensions on the spar, while others let them float until the wiresare placed. Sorry, I do not see your name on your post. It would also be nice to know atwhat stage you are in your project, where you are from, and, mostimportantly, "How will you handle this part of the construction?"Gary from Cool-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing wires and ribs
Original Posted By: "Piet2015"
Jim...........looks like you got a quart of cement. Look to buy 3 more. I boughta gallon and only had less than a pint left over. Your mileage may vary. Youare getting to a fun part of the build.. at least it was for me.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009now covering and painting21" wheelsLycoming O-235 C2CJay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing wires and ribs
Jim...........looks like you got a quart of cement. Look to buy 3 more. I boughta gallon and only had less than a pint left over. Your mileage may vary. Youare getting to a fun part of the build.. at least it was for me.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009now covering and painting21" wheelsLycoming O-235 C2CJay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing wires and ribs
Original Posted By: Jim Markle
gboothe5(at)comcast.net wrote:> I guess the short answer is, "NO." The practical answer is, "Once the offendinguprights are filed and re-enforced, there is no interference."> Every Piet is different, and identifying which sticks should be moved would> be a waste of time. Furthermore, some builders prefer to anchor their ribs> at set dimensions on the spar, while others let them float until the wires> are placed.> > Gary from Cool> > --The mantra here seems to be "build according to the plans". If so, this would indicatethe ribs would be fixed at the locations shown on the plans. If the ribsare fixed at their proper location, figuring out what sticks to move wouldn'tbe a "waste of time", it would help countless future builders get it rightwithout having to shift rib locations or remove and whittle sticks.A forum like this is in a position to help builders correct plans errors BEFOREconstruction begins. Instead, it seems every new Piet builder must make the sameflawed build that everyone else did and then everyone here will tell themhow to fix it AFTER the fact.Go through the archives here. Same questions over and over and over.Seems that building it wrong and then correcting it or rebuilding it is some kindof "Pietenpol right of passage". The thing one must do to be accepted intothe "club". If someone post a question prior to some stage of building, theyget the "build it according to the plans" or you are "over thinking this".You asked how am I going to solve the problem. Very easy with the modern toolswe have available. I'm building a Riblett wing. When I designed my rib truss,I modeled it in 3D CAD and made sure there where no bracing wire to stick interference.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:01:38 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
gboothe5(at)comcast.net wrote:> I guess the short answer is, "NO." The practical answer is, "Once the offendinguprights are filed and re-enforced, there is no interference."> Every Piet is different, and identifying which sticks should be moved would> be a waste of time. Furthermore, some builders prefer to anchor their ribs> at set dimensions on the spar, while others let them float until the wires> are placed.> > Gary from Cool> > --The mantra here seems to be "build according to the plans". If so, this would indicatethe ribs would be fixed at the locations shown on the plans. If the ribsare fixed at their proper location, figuring out what sticks to move wouldn'tbe a "waste of time", it would help countless future builders get it rightwithout having to shift rib locations or remove and whittle sticks.A forum like this is in a position to help builders correct plans errors BEFOREconstruction begins. Instead, it seems every new Piet builder must make the sameflawed build that everyone else did and then everyone here will tell themhow to fix it AFTER the fact.Go through the archives here. Same questions over and over and over.Seems that building it wrong and then correcting it or rebuilding it is some kindof "Pietenpol right of passage". The thing one must do to be accepted intothe "club". If someone post a question prior to some stage of building, theyget the "build it according to the plans" or you are "over thinking this".You asked how am I going to solve the problem. Very easy with the modern toolswe have available. I'm building a Riblett wing. When I designed my rib truss,I modeled it in 3D CAD and made sure there where no bracing wire to stick interference.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:01:38 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
RE: Pietenpol-List: Inst. Panel design
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Brian here are a few I've collected, reduced...Jack TextorDSMNX1929T-----Original Message-----
Brian here are a few I've collected, reduced...Jack TextorDSMNX1929T-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Inst. Panel design
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
Group,I have the basic set up for my panel in mind but would like to requestfrom the group pictures of your panels. I have combed overWestCoast-Piet and other sites for other ideas also. I thought it mightbe an interesting thread to see what people have done with instrumentplacement, type of ply, or veneer wood or metal finish. I think I amleaning towards a burl veneer panel. Look forward to any panel pics.Thanks.BrianSLC-UTBrian,Here's mine: Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Inst. Panel design
Group,I have the basic set up for my panel in mind but would like to requestfrom the group pictures of your panels. I have combed overWestCoast-Piet and other sites for other ideas also. I thought it mightbe an interesting thread to see what people have done with instrumentplacement, type of ply, or veneer wood or metal finish. I think I amleaning towards a burl veneer panel. Look forward to any panel pics.Thanks.BrianSLC-UTBrian,Here's mine: Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Inst. Panel design
Re: Pietenpol-List: Inst. Panel design
Original Posted By: "Douwe Blumberg"
John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2424 American LaneMadison, WI 53704Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Mar 20, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:> > Group,> I have the basic set up for my panel in mind but would like to request> from the group pictures of your panels. I have combed over> WestCoast-Piet and other sites for other ideas also. I thought it might> be an interesting thread to see what people have done with instrument> placement, type of ply, or veneer wood or metal finish. I think I am> leaning towards a burl veneer panel. Look forward to any panel pics.> Thanks.> > Brian> SLC-UT> > Brian,> > Here's mine: > > > > > Jack Phillips> NX899JP> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia> > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2424 American LaneMadison, WI 53704Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Mar 20, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:> > Group,> I have the basic set up for my panel in mind but would like to request> from the group pictures of your panels. I have combed over> WestCoast-Piet and other sites for other ideas also. I thought it might> be an interesting thread to see what people have done with instrument> placement, type of ply, or veneer wood or metal finish. I think I am> leaning towards a burl veneer panel. Look forward to any panel pics.> Thanks.> > Brian> SLC-UT> > Brian,> > Here's mine: > > > > > Jack Phillips> NX899JP> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia> > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________