Original Posted By: "walt evans"
I just returned from a "retirement property hunting" expedition to Florida andwas hosted most graciously on St. George Island by Piet builder John Ficklin andhis way above average wife, Susan.John has more talent in his little finger than most mortals and it shows in everythinghe touches. His Piet is no exception! It's bare-bones presently and fullyrigged. Soon it will be taken apart and given a good once-over then the coveringprocess will begin. EVERYTHING is superb, and many of the personal touchesare only going to be seen by someone who takes the time to really go overit. They will be amply rewarded by John's antique instruments, clever inspectionpanels, small blisters and fairings, and a simple but very elegant elevatortrim system. It's a jewel and his goal is to have it at Sun-N-Fun!!! If thingsgo well, he will try to get to Brodhead and on to OSH with the gaggle.Made me wonder how many other Piets are out there waiting to hatch.Piet people are Great!Larry________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: progress report
Re: Pietenpol-List: Axle Dissertation
Original Posted By: "Kirk Huizenga"
Just remember that you are not moving the wing back,,,you are moving thebody forward. Not being a wise guy, it's just easier to understand what isaffected when you do this.Picture hanging the plane from the point on top of the wing that is thecenter of the theoretical CG. Now with you in the plane, the wholething is hanging down with the tail near the floor. Now by losening therigging cables, you push the whole body forward under the wing about fourinches. now all of a sudden the whole plane is hanging level on this wirefrom the ceiling.weird thinking but true.walt evansNX140DL----- Original Message -----
Just remember that you are not moving the wing back,,,you are moving thebody forward. Not being a wise guy, it's just easier to understand what isaffected when you do this.Picture hanging the plane from the point on top of the wing that is thecenter of the theoretical CG. Now with you in the plane, the wholething is hanging down with the tail near the floor. Now by losening therigging cables, you push the whole body forward under the wing about fourinches. now all of a sudden the whole plane is hanging level on this wirefrom the ceiling.weird thinking but true.walt evansNX140DL----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Axle Dissertation
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Re: Pietenpol-List: Axle Dissertation
Original Posted By: walt evans
I'm not a fan of moving the wing. the tail moment is shortened, the angle betweenthe landing gear and CG is changed, etc. Why not move the engine fore or aft to adjust CG? Moving a 200lb engine foreor aft just 3" makes a difference.DJ----- Original Message -----
I'm not a fan of moving the wing. the tail moment is shortened, the angle betweenthe landing gear and CG is changed, etc. Why not move the engine fore or aft to adjust CG? Moving a 200lb engine foreor aft just 3" makes a difference.DJ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Axle Dissertation
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
I built the long fuselage with an A65 (mount extented about 1 3/4" to anticipatemy bodily weight of 215") And had to move the wing back (sorry, body forward)3 inches.I used the split gear plans supplied. 14 gallon nose tank and 10 gal center tank(usually run empty).Had read an article by a "seat of the pants guy" who said something like " ifyou can hold the plane on the mains with the tail up without a problem on rollout,then the CG can't be far off.When doing takeoff roll, no problem getting up on the mains, and after a wheellanding, I can keep it on the mains for quite a while till it's quite slow. Notlike the tail slams to the ground.If the wheel location was too far forward, wouldn't it show up in the rollout?walt evansNX140DL ----- Original Message -----
I built the long fuselage with an A65 (mount extented about 1 3/4" to anticipatemy bodily weight of 215") And had to move the wing back (sorry, body forward)3 inches.I used the split gear plans supplied. 14 gallon nose tank and 10 gal center tank(usually run empty).Had read an article by a "seat of the pants guy" who said something like " ifyou can hold the plane on the mains with the tail up without a problem on rollout,then the CG can't be far off.When doing takeoff roll, no problem getting up on the mains, and after a wheellanding, I can keep it on the mains for quite a while till it's quite slow. Notlike the tail slams to the ground.If the wheel location was too far forward, wouldn't it show up in the rollout?walt evansNX140DL ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Axle Dissertation
Original Posted By: walt evans
Walt,How far is your axle from your firewall? I ask as I am building the long fuselage.I extended my engine mount 2" from the firewall. I will be using the Corvairengine.I am a long way from building the gear but assimilating as much info as this oldbrain can hold. ----- Original Message -----
Walt,How far is your axle from your firewall? I ask as I am building the long fuselage.I extended my engine mount 2" from the firewall. I will be using the Corvairengine.I am a long way from building the gear but assimilating as much info as this oldbrain can hold. ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: progress report
Original Posted By: Rcaprd(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: progress reportLarry,Is John Ficklen on this list ? Do you have his e-mail ? I need to send him an infomation list to fill out on his Piet. Anyone that I missed, please e-mail me direct, so I can send you the Pietenpol 'Infomation List' to fill out.Chuck G.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: progress reportLarry,Is John Ficklen on this list ? Do you have his e-mail ? I need to send him an infomation list to fill out on his Piet. Anyone that I missed, please e-mail me direct, so I can send you the Pietenpol 'Infomation List' to fill out.Chuck G.________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuel Tank Finished
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Pietenpol-List: progress report
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Antenna is ordered, found Mikee's on Ebay for half price. Foam is ordered,and on it's way for pillows. Gotta get Marci up to speed with the sewingmachine now. I've decided to make the foam pillows, then sew the cover soit fits around one side and snaps to the airframe around the perimeter tokeep things from moving around. I'm going to use canvas painters tarps foran old historical (hysterical??) look.Spent the last two days sanding the fiberglass cowling and finally got itremounted last night, VERY exciting!! Still have lots of details on thatcowling, but it's coming. Maybe another week or so before that's done. Then some niggling detail things while the last major ACS order arrives ofDacron and dope and I can start covering the eppanage and fuse. Doing a"mock antique doped linen" finish with a color trim of latex, so I don'tanticipate the painting taking too long. Just have to remember that stupid"hiddin" knot rib stitch I used to be so familiar with.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 05:51:05 -0700 (PDT)
Antenna is ordered, found Mikee's on Ebay for half price. Foam is ordered,and on it's way for pillows. Gotta get Marci up to speed with the sewingmachine now. I've decided to make the foam pillows, then sew the cover soit fits around one side and snaps to the airframe around the perimeter tokeep things from moving around. I'm going to use canvas painters tarps foran old historical (hysterical??) look.Spent the last two days sanding the fiberglass cowling and finally got itremounted last night, VERY exciting!! Still have lots of details on thatcowling, but it's coming. Maybe another week or so before that's done. Then some niggling detail things while the last major ACS order arrives ofDacron and dope and I can start covering the eppanage and fuse. Doing a"mock antique doped linen" finish with a color trim of latex, so I don'tanticipate the painting taking too long. Just have to remember that stupid"hiddin" knot rib stitch I used to be so familiar with.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 05:51:05 -0700 (PDT)