Original Posted By: "DaveG601XL"
I thought they where different things..... thank you.--------Mario Giacummohttp://vgmk1.blogspot.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Temperature Gauges W/O Electrical System
Pietenpol-List: Temperature Gauges W/O Electrical System
Original Posted By: Gerry Holland
Guys,I am trying to figure out which temperature gauges (CHT & Oil) I can use that donot require electricity to operate since I am using an A-65F without an electricalsystem. I see a VDO CHT gauge advertised in Aircraft Spruce that saysit does not need electricity unless you want the unit lighted. I do not see asimilar note under any of the oil temp gauges. They all just say that they need12VDC. The VDO web site did not help any since it seems to indicate thatall their gauges need voltage to operate. Any recommendations on particular gauges or brands that have worked well?Thanks,--------David GallagherZodiac 601 XL-B: flying, 200+ hours nowNext project under construction: AircamperRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Guys,I am trying to figure out which temperature gauges (CHT & Oil) I can use that donot require electricity to operate since I am using an A-65F without an electricalsystem. I see a VDO CHT gauge advertised in Aircraft Spruce that saysit does not need electricity unless you want the unit lighted. I do not see asimilar note under any of the oil temp gauges. They all just say that they need12VDC. The VDO web site did not help any since it seems to indicate thatall their gauges need voltage to operate. Any recommendations on particular gauges or brands that have worked well?Thanks,--------David GallagherZodiac 601 XL-B: flying, 200+ hours nowNext project under construction: AircamperRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Temperature Gauges W/O Electrical System
Original Posted By: Dave Nielsen
DavidI have a non electric A75-8. The Oil Temperature is some form of capillary to OilPressure mount at rear of engine. Works well.Gerry________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Temperature Gauges W/O Electrical System
DavidI have a non electric A75-8. The Oil Temperature is some form of capillary to OilPressure mount at rear of engine. Works well.Gerry________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Temperature Gauges W/O Electrical System
Pietenpol-List: Re: Temperature Gauges W/O Electrical System
Original Posted By: "tools"
DavidI think I have this Oil Pressure Gauge.http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/i ... ss3.phpYou need to ensure it comes with capillary tube and bulb to fit into rear of engine.Gerry________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Temperature Gauges W/O Electrical System
DavidI think I have this Oil Pressure Gauge.http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/i ... ss3.phpYou need to ensure it comes with capillary tube and bulb to fit into rear of engine.Gerry________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Temperature Gauges W/O Electrical System
Original Posted By: Jim Markle
I just faced this problem on the 1920'ish Standard J1 biplane I'm helping to restorein Oshkosh. It runs an old water cooled V8 without an electrical system,a Hisso I think.Anyway, was was installed during a 1970's restore was a old Stewart Warner oiltemp gage that had that capillary tube arrangement. I see them in A/C Spruce.While it says oil temp, it will work and the temp range is about correct.However, years ago I found a company in Albuquerque NM called MoMa. They restoreALL SORTS of gages and know about everything about them. If you want themto fix a tach gage, they want the tach cable sent along so it can be properlyfit, etc. Also, their prices were about half of everywhere else.So I called them up about this water temp gage. The owner of the company usuallyanswers the phone, a very nice lady Ms. Lucas. I explained what we wantedand she found a perfect vintage Stewart Warner WATER temp gage and fit the lengthof capillary tube to it we needed for the J1. Did this in under a week.If you have ANY gage stuff you need done, they are clearly worth checking with.The weirder the problem (like fixing a neat old auto speedometer to make a airplanetach), the better they will sound. They'll even do custom silkscreeningof the gage face if you want. Just google MoMa and Albuquerque and you'll find them.ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:37:46 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
I just faced this problem on the 1920'ish Standard J1 biplane I'm helping to restorein Oshkosh. It runs an old water cooled V8 without an electrical system,a Hisso I think.Anyway, was was installed during a 1970's restore was a old Stewart Warner oiltemp gage that had that capillary tube arrangement. I see them in A/C Spruce.While it says oil temp, it will work and the temp range is about correct.However, years ago I found a company in Albuquerque NM called MoMa. They restoreALL SORTS of gages and know about everything about them. If you want themto fix a tach gage, they want the tach cable sent along so it can be properlyfit, etc. Also, their prices were about half of everywhere else.So I called them up about this water temp gage. The owner of the company usuallyanswers the phone, a very nice lady Ms. Lucas. I explained what we wantedand she found a perfect vintage Stewart Warner WATER temp gage and fit the lengthof capillary tube to it we needed for the J1. Did this in under a week.If you have ANY gage stuff you need done, they are clearly worth checking with.The weirder the problem (like fixing a neat old auto speedometer to make a airplanetach), the better they will sound. They'll even do custom silkscreeningof the gage face if you want. Just google MoMa and Albuquerque and you'll find them.ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:37:46 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Temperature Gauges W/O Electrical System
Original Posted By: DaveG601XL
The Mitchell mechanical gauge is part # 10-02706 A.S. catalogue. Westach GHT part# is 2A1. part number for the sender is 712-5W AHHHH I think. DaveDave Nielsensentuchows(at)aol.com-----Original Message-----
The Mitchell mechanical gauge is part # 10-02706 A.S. catalogue. Westach GHT part# is 2A1. part number for the sender is 712-5W AHHHH I think. DaveDave Nielsensentuchows(at)aol.com-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Temperature Gauges W/O Electrical System
Original Posted By: airlion
Oil temp gauge as follows: Aircraft Spruce # 10-00954http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/ ... ----Adrian MWinnipeg, MBCanadaRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/oil_ ... ______Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:36:20 -0700 (PDT)
Oil temp gauge as follows: Aircraft Spruce # 10-00954http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/ ... ----Adrian MWinnipeg, MBCanadaRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/oil_ ... ______Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:36:20 -0700 (PDT)
Pietenpol-List: Re: Temperature Gauges W/O Electrical System
Original Posted By: "DaveG601XL"
I don't really have much to add in the Cub-vs-Air Camper threadexcept to slightly modify what someone (Jack-?) said about the"glide". I consider this to be a plus for the Piet. I alwaysfound that my most tense moments flying the Cub (and Super Cub)were those last few seconds (felt like hours) waiting for themains to touch, riding the float down the runway, endlessly. Iknow, I know- it's all about airspeed control and that meant Iwas carrying a little too much airspeed- but still, I like thefact that I can bring the Piet down on a straight-line final allthe way to the numbers and then plunk it down with minimal float.It's a nice short field performer, in my book. I also agree thatadding wingspan also adds weight... not a good thing for Piets.Closing comment: pay no attention to posts from one "Kevin Purtee",a questionable guy that we put up with here out of kindness. He sayshis family is dysfunctional, but he's referring to himself, nothis better half or any of us. And he belittles those of us whodid not build our own Piets, but who fly them anyway. I think ofScout (my Air Camper) as an adopted child, one that I love bychoice. "Fat Bottom Girl", Kevin's airplane by birth and upbringing,has no choice but to live in a dysfunctional household.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"Medford/Ashland, ORwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Temperature Gauges W/O Electrical System
I don't really have much to add in the Cub-vs-Air Camper threadexcept to slightly modify what someone (Jack-?) said about the"glide". I consider this to be a plus for the Piet. I alwaysfound that my most tense moments flying the Cub (and Super Cub)were those last few seconds (felt like hours) waiting for themains to touch, riding the float down the runway, endlessly. Iknow, I know- it's all about airspeed control and that meant Iwas carrying a little too much airspeed- but still, I like thefact that I can bring the Piet down on a straight-line final allthe way to the numbers and then plunk it down with minimal float.It's a nice short field performer, in my book. I also agree thatadding wingspan also adds weight... not a good thing for Piets.Closing comment: pay no attention to posts from one "Kevin Purtee",a questionable guy that we put up with here out of kindness. He sayshis family is dysfunctional, but he's referring to himself, nothis better half or any of us. And he belittles those of us whodid not build our own Piets, but who fly them anyway. I think ofScout (my Air Camper) as an adopted child, one that I love bychoice. "Fat Bottom Girl", Kevin's airplane by birth and upbringing,has no choice but to live in a dysfunctional household.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"Medford/Ashland, ORwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Temperature Gauges W/O Electrical System
Original Posted By: "Douwe Blumberg"
Thanks guys, this is exactly what I was looking for.--------David GallagherZodiac 601 XL-B: flying, 200+ hours nowNext project under construction: AircamperRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Thanks guys, this is exactly what I was looking for.--------David GallagherZodiac 601 XL-B: flying, 200+ hours nowNext project under construction: AircamperRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________