Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Hi folks what is the coolest temperature you would feel comfortable varnishing? This cold ontario weather just refuses to leave.....cb________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Varnish Temperature
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Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Anything under 60 and I have to put on a sweatshirt.I'm usually comfortablethen.Gary BootheNX308MB
Anything under 60 and I have to put on a sweatshirt.I'm usually comfortablethen.Gary BootheNX308MB
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Original Posted By: "tools"
I couldn't find any minimum temperature on the can. I'll look again....cb----- Original Message -----
I couldn't find any minimum temperature on the can. I'll look again....cb----- Original Message -----
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Original Posted By: Gardiner
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Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Charles,My can of Min Wax Spar Varnish does not specify a minimum, either...onlythat the 24 hr drying time is extend when applied over 77 deg. and 50%humidity. Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
Charles,My can of Min Wax Spar Varnish does not specify a minimum, either...onlythat the 24 hr drying time is extend when applied over 77 deg. and 50%humidity. Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: "Charles Burkholder"
charles, I used helmsman spar varnish and the can says it will dry in six hours at 25c temps.so if you use it in the cold it may not dry till the end of may when the temperature warms up.be patient and only do it once.p.s. a friend has some steamline tubing if your interested .let me know.Wayne (with my sweater on) in waterloo.----- Original Message -----
charles, I used helmsman spar varnish and the can says it will dry in six hours at 25c temps.so if you use it in the cold it may not dry till the end of may when the temperature warms up.be patient and only do it once.p.s. a friend has some steamline tubing if your interested .let me know.Wayne (with my sweater on) in waterloo.----- Original Message -----
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Original Posted By: "wayne"
Yes I'm using that stuff too. I'm just not sure if the cold temps would affect the bond etc......Wayne I would be interested....... How much does he have?----- Original Message -----
Yes I'm using that stuff too. I'm just not sure if the cold temps would affect the bond etc......Wayne I would be interested....... How much does he have?----- Original Message -----
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Original Posted By: "Larry V"
Wow, weird, consider checking online for additional info on that product, and/oremailing the manufacturer for recommendations.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cool building shot
Wow, weird, consider checking online for additional info on that product, and/oremailing the manufacturer for recommendations.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cool building shot
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Original Posted By: "Mark Roberts"
Yep! 2" wider from nose to pilot shoulders (which surprisingly makes it feel VERYroomy... I bet 1" would have been fine even for my 250 lbs) and 2" deeper atthe pilot seat.2" longer at the nose too... All these were over and above the long fuse dimensionsfrom the supplemental plans.Book that layover trip and come to the Frazier Lake fly in!! West Coast Pietersare great!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Varnish Temperature
Yep! 2" wider from nose to pilot shoulders (which surprisingly makes it feel VERYroomy... I bet 1" would have been fine even for my 250 lbs) and 2" deeper atthe pilot seat.2" longer at the nose too... All these were over and above the long fuse dimensionsfrom the supplemental plans.Book that layover trip and come to the Frazier Lake fly in!! West Coast Pietersare great!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Varnish Temperature
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Burkholder
Oh Gary! I laughed out loud... Didn't see that one comin'
[quote="gboothe"]Anything under 60 and I have to put on a sweatshirtIm usuallycomfortable thenGary BootheNX308MB
Oh Gary! I laughed out loud... Didn't see that one comin'
[quote="gboothe"]Anything under 60 and I have to put on a sweatshirtIm usuallycomfortable thenGary BootheNX308MBPietenpol-List: Re: Varnish Temperature
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Charles,Minwax doesn't seem to publish a range of suitable application temperatures intheir online literature, or on the can. However, the product most likely hasbeen formulated to work best at or around "room temperature" (20C, 68F). Followingis a link to a similar question posed on an online forum discussing theuse of Helmsman Spar Urethane on canoe paddles, that may be of some assistance.http://www.bwca.com/index.cfm?fuseactio ... d&threadId 7666&forumID=15&confID=1Basically, I think you're going to have to wait a month or so, till the weatherwarms up a bit, before applying the varnish.On another note, I find that I also feel comfortable when Gary is wearing a sweater.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Charles,Minwax doesn't seem to publish a range of suitable application temperatures intheir online literature, or on the can. However, the product most likely hasbeen formulated to work best at or around "room temperature" (20C, 68F). Followingis a link to a similar question posed on an online forum discussing theuse of Helmsman Spar Urethane on canoe paddles, that may be of some assistance.http://www.bwca.com/index.cfm?fuseactio ... d&threadId 7666&forumID=15&confID=1Basically, I think you're going to have to wait a month or so, till the weatherwarms up a bit, before applying the varnish.On another note, I find that I also feel comfortable when Gary is wearing a sweater.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: "tools"
I love my SPOT. I take it everywhere. In the plane, On the motorcycle and inthe RV. Great device.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Varnish Temperature
I love my SPOT. I take it everywhere. In the plane, On the motorcycle and inthe RV. Great device.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Varnish Temperature
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Original Posted By: "kevinpurtee"
Actually Minwax does publish a min temp on their site under "basics of wood preparation"I just typed "temperature" into the search function on the home page.TEMPERATURE AND HUMIDITYAll wood finishing products depend on evaporation during the drying process. Lowair temperatures and high relative humidity slow evaporation and increase thelength of time your wood project will remain tacky. Before starting your woodproject, make sure the temperature will remain above 65 degrees and the humidityaround 50% during both application and the drying process.I think Bill's recommendation of "around room temp" would probably work for nearlyall products. Lager yeast being the only exception I can think of, unlessyou want a steam style beer...Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: satellite tracking devices
Actually Minwax does publish a min temp on their site under "basics of wood preparation"I just typed "temperature" into the search function on the home page.TEMPERATURE AND HUMIDITYAll wood finishing products depend on evaporation during the drying process. Lowair temperatures and high relative humidity slow evaporation and increase thelength of time your wood project will remain tacky. Before starting your woodproject, make sure the temperature will remain above 65 degrees and the humidityaround 50% during both application and the drying process.I think Bill's recommendation of "around room temp" would probably work for nearlyall products. Lager yeast being the only exception I can think of, unlessyou want a steam style beer...Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: satellite tracking devices
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Original Posted By: "tools"
The SPOT is all I've used, Douwe, but it works great. I have my personal one andhave bought several for crews at work. I rarely fly, personally or professionally,without one. I've been told there are devices that are more aviation-centric but I don't knowanything about them.Didn't really answer your question but it's more data for you.--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeRebuilding NX899KPAustin/San Marcos, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Varnish Temperature
The SPOT is all I've used, Douwe, but it works great. I have my personal one andhave bought several for crews at work. I rarely fly, personally or professionally,without one. I've been told there are devices that are more aviation-centric but I don't knowanything about them.Didn't really answer your question but it's more data for you.--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeRebuilding NX899KPAustin/San Marcos, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Varnish Temperature
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
The boat guys seem to use Epifane, which has this on their site... When applying one-component products, the minimum application and surface temperatureshould be no less than 40 F. (5 C). Two- component products should notbe applied in temperatures under 50- 55 F. (10-12 C). During application, the relative humidity should not exceed 85%. When applyingtwo-component products, a maximum humidity level of 70% should be observed. Applicationof paint in conditions above or below these levels may have repercussionson the drying and hardening qualities of the product. The minimum temperature of the object to be painted should be 5 F. (3 C.) abovethe point of condensation.Is it colder than 40 deg in the shop? Seems like this stuff should work prettygood. Many people point out that the issue with colder temps is condensation,which can definitely blush the finish, not so important if the varnish is forproperties rather than show, as in the inside of a wing or something.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
The boat guys seem to use Epifane, which has this on their site... When applying one-component products, the minimum application and surface temperatureshould be no less than 40 F. (5 C). Two- component products should notbe applied in temperatures under 50- 55 F. (10-12 C). During application, the relative humidity should not exceed 85%. When applyingtwo-component products, a maximum humidity level of 70% should be observed. Applicationof paint in conditions above or below these levels may have repercussionson the drying and hardening qualities of the product. The minimum temperature of the object to be painted should be 5 F. (3 C.) abovethe point of condensation.Is it colder than 40 deg in the shop? Seems like this stuff should work prettygood. Many people point out that the issue with colder temps is condensation,which can definitely blush the finish, not so important if the varnish is forproperties rather than show, as in the inside of a wing or something.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I find it curious that, if a manufacturer were concerned about applicationtemps, they would bury the info on a website. Charles - Speaking anecdotally, and to your desire to get something donewhile awaiting the first blossoms of Spring, just last Friday night Ire-varnished my prop with Minwax Spar Varnish Semi Satin. It was about 50deg when I started and temps got down to 38 that night. Next morning it wasready for transportation to the hangar.Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
I find it curious that, if a manufacturer were concerned about applicationtemps, they would bury the info on a website. Charles - Speaking anecdotally, and to your desire to get something donewhile awaiting the first blossoms of Spring, just last Friday night Ire-varnished my prop with Minwax Spar Varnish Semi Satin. It was about 50deg when I started and temps got down to 38 that night. Next morning it wasready for transportation to the hangar.Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Ya I found it strange. I don't have to worry about it now because I brought the fuselage down into the warm basement..... Where there's a will there's a way:-)----- Original Message -----
Ya I found it strange. I don't have to worry about it now because I brought the fuselage down into the warm basement..... Where there's a will there's a way:-)----- Original Message -----