Original Posted By: Bill Princell
Thoughts on having a Minimum Equipment List (MEL) for a Pietenpol.It really boils down to what are your chances ....=A2=C2-=C2-=C2- You'd be ramp check by Mr. FAA=A2=C2-=C2-=C2- Have an accident because of a missing/inop item that was a =9Cno go=9D item like a broken Airspeed Indicator or an expired inspection/certification on your Altimeter.=A2=C2-=C2-=C2- Your insurance company would look very unsympathetically at the missing MEL and the situation that occurred because you didn=99t have one.I guess I have a sort of mixed blessing.=C2- A real good friend of mine, who lives three houses down the street is in the Dulles Flight Standards Office and he is among other things a Ramp Checker.=C2-=C2-=C2-I overheard the other day at the local FBO that a couple of guys got ramp checked recently and it sorta went OK.=C2- Since Dulles is in our backyard - it doesn't come as a surprise that we get the ole "Hi, We're from the FAA and we're here to help you!" greeting.=C2- SO....... to be on the safe side with my Piet - I've been studying the rules with lots of encouragement from my friend (?) Do Piet's have a Minimum Equipment List ?=C2- Some say we do and some say we don't.=C2- Now, If nothing ever goes wrong and you never get ramp checked =93 maybe you don=99t need one.=C2- If my 30 years in general aviation has taught me anything =93 it=99s that where the FAA is concerned =93 Yes, Henry =93 there is a rule for that!=C2- You say =9C But this rule says it don=99t apply=9D=C2- FAA says =9CTrue =93 but these two obscure rules says it does!=9D=C2- It=99s a stacked deck!Here's what you can expect a really sharp Inspector might say during your ramp check right after he/she has finished with your Weight & Balance review.=C2- May I see your MEL?=C2- (Google =9CFigure 56 FAR Part 91 Ramp Inspection Job Aid=9D)If you say you do not need an MEL for your airplane - then he/she will use=C2- http://fsims.faa.gov/PICResults.aspx?mo ... ctype=MMEL and look at you with a big smile and ask you:=A2=C2-=C2-=C2- Is your aircraft listed under Airplanes?=C2-=C2-=C2-..=C2-=C2-=C2-No, it=99s a Pietenpol=A2=C2-=C2-=C2- Is your aircraft a Single Engine Airplane long pause .Yes=C2- .=9DGotcha !!!=9DThen since you don=99t have an MEL =93 =9CM SE Airplane R1 -- Single Engine Airplane, Rev. 1 Date -- 11/23/2011=9D now becomes your default MEL.=C2- This MEL lists every possible piece of equipment that could conceivably be installed in a single engine airplane.=C2- Its an unbelievably long list =93 pages and pages. The Ramp Check of your airplane starts using this MEL.=C2- Now, if everything in your Piet is working and you have all the required goodies (ELT, Shoulder Harness, Day VFR instruments, Pertinent Charts, Placards, Fire Extinguisher {seen that discussed in another post}.etc.) then you are golden.=C2- But if you are missing a mandatory item or if its broke =93 he/she can ground the aircraft.=C2-=C2-=C2-Luckily, there are a few caveats some of this stuff has a grandfather clause i.e., if your aircraft was certified before a certain date =93 the requirement for that particular item does not apply.=C2- My Piet was built in 1988 =93 it all applies!!!!=C2- There are other reasons some of the stuff may or may not be required.=C2- But, you should know what does and what doesn=99t =93 it=99s your airplane.=C2- Me, I know that it=99s ALL required.Can=99t Beat=99m =93 Join=99m:=C2- Here=99s my approach =93 I=99m going to create an MEL that lists all the Day VFR Required Equipment=C2- (91.205) and put it in the front of my Operations Manual.=A2=C2-=C2-=C2- Airspeed indicator.=A2=C2-=C2-=C2- Altimeter.=A2=C2-=C2-=C2- Magnetic Compass and correction card=A2=C2-=C2-=C2- Tachometer=A2=C2-=C2-=C2- Oil pressure gauge (for each engine using pressure system)=A2=C2-=C2-=C2- Temperature gauge for each liquid-cooled engine. (Not Me!)=A2=C2-=C2-=C2- Oil temperature gauge (for each air-cooled engine)=A2=C2-=C2-=C2- Fuel gauge indicating the quantity of fuel in each tank.=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-There are some work-arounds for this one.=A2=C2-=C2-=C2- Safety belt with an approved metal-to-metal latching device=A2=C2-=C2-=C2- Shoulder Harness each seat =93 Applies to Piets manufactured after July 18, 1978,=A2=C2-=C2-=C2- Emergency locator transmitter =C2=A7 91.207.=A2=C2-=C2-=C2- Appropriate Placards and WarningsI am hoping that the Ramp Checker will find this more acceptable rather than telling him I don=99t have one.=C2- Worst case =93 he would point out something I=99m missing, ask me to correct it, and send me on my way.After all =93 when you really boil it down =93 it=99s a piece of paper in the front of your AFM.=C2-=C2-=C2-I will post mine when its done =93 it will be in MS Word so you can add/change/delete entries as you see fit.My 2 cents on the subject .=C2- Happy Memorial Day!I welcome any corrections to the above =93 please cite references -- its good for all of us to have this stuff right and readily available.--------Jim McWhorterN687MB (New Owner)Culpeper, VA=C2- KCJRRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 0#401310tS WEB FORUMS -on Web Site -=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: what is a "flight manual" and an "equipment li
Pietenpol-List: Corvair Engine Tach Sender Wiring Question:
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Engine Tach Sender Wiring Question:I have a queston about how to connect the tach to the sender. I'm using theStewart-Warner diesel engine tach recommended by WW and want to connect itthe small (pencil type) magnetic sender. The tach has a green lead wire anda gray lead wire going to the sender. The sender has a white lead wire anda black lead wire. How do I connect them correctly?Bill Princell - Noblesville, INCorvair Powered Pietenpol Rebuild Project________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Engine Tach Sender Wiring Question:I have a queston about how to connect the tach to the sender. I'm using theStewart-Warner diesel engine tach recommended by WW and want to connect itthe small (pencil type) magnetic sender. The tach has a green lead wire anda gray lead wire going to the sender. The sender has a white lead wire anda black lead wire. How do I connect them correctly?Bill Princell - Noblesville, INCorvair Powered Pietenpol Rebuild Project________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Engine Tach Sender Wiring Question:
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Bill - Close your eyes and pick one. You will be right 100% of the time.Gary BootheNX308MB
Bill - Close your eyes and pick one. You will be right 100% of the time.Gary BootheNX308MB
Pietenpol-List: Corvair Engine Tach Sender Wiring Question:
Original Posted By: Darrel Jones