Original Posted By: "Greg Cardinal"
An evocative pic to spur everyone towards the finish line (even if its the second finish line). How 'bout everyone send in their favorite photo?DouweSent from my iPhone________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Sunset - send in your favorite photo
Re: Pietenpol-List: Sunset - send in your favorite photo
Original Posted By: "Douwe"
>From Brodhead 2012.Photo courtesy of Pat Hoyt.Greg Cardinal----- Original Message -----
>From Brodhead 2012.Photo courtesy of Pat Hoyt.Greg Cardinal----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Sunset - send in your favorite photo
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
Another Brodhead shot. This one from 2008.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/brod ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sunset - send in your favorite photo
Another Brodhead shot. This one from 2008.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/brod ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sunset - send in your favorite photo
RE: Pietenpol-List: ELT Location
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Larry, I mounted mine behind the pilot's seat under the helmet box. I madea ground plane of aluminum and mounted the antenna there as well. I have anaccess panel in the belly so I can inspect and lubricate the elevatorbellcrank and this provides access to service the ELT as well.Here's a picture of it, looking straight up from the belly access panel:You can see the groundplane under the helmet box, with the antenna mountedbelow the ground plane. It seems to work ok, on the one day each year itgets activated during the condition inspection.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____
Larry, I mounted mine behind the pilot's seat under the helmet box. I madea ground plane of aluminum and mounted the antenna there as well. I have anaccess panel in the belly so I can inspect and lubricate the elevatorbellcrank and this provides access to service the ELT as well.Here's a picture of it, looking straight up from the belly access panel:You can see the groundplane under the helmet box, with the antenna mountedbelow the ground plane. It seems to work ok, on the one day each year itgets activated during the condition inspection.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____
Pietenpol-List: Re: Sunset - send in your favorite photo
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Thanks for the ELT picture, Jack. Your location just behind the pilot is the most logical, but that's where the major rework is for me, as I don't have access at this point. Your idea of having an access panel in the bottom of the fuse is a really good one, and based on my experience, I would recommend it to all new builders. Larry________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sunset - send in your favorite photo
Thanks for the ELT picture, Jack. Your location just behind the pilot is the most logical, but that's where the major rework is for me, as I don't have access at this point. Your idea of having an access panel in the bottom of the fuse is a really good one, and based on my experience, I would recommend it to all new builders. Larry________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sunset - send in your favorite photo
Pietenpol-List: Re: Champion C-26 Plugs
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Chuck,For a sunset photo, the sun would be in the west.For a sunrise photo, the sun would be in the east.Well, you asked!BCRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Champion C-26 Plugs
Chuck,For a sunset photo, the sun would be in the west.For a sunrise photo, the sun would be in the east.Well, you asked!BCRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Champion C-26 Plugs
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Champion C-26 Plugs
Original Posted By: Jack
Mike-Here's a very thorough response to your question, from my A&P (and Continentalspecialist) friend Jeff Scott in Los Alamos:===============For Champion, the higher number is a hotter plug (or heat range)........meaningthe plug runs at a hotter temperature because it transfers heat from the combustionchamber slower. That is accomplished by moving the ceramic insulator furtherback up inside the plug a bit farther, so it takes longer for heat to transferup the electrode and dissipate through the plug to the cylinder head andoutside air.So, that means the C27 plug is one heat range hotter than a C26 plug. That usuallyisn't a big deal in a 4 stroke engine and the A series engines could usuallyuse a hotter plug, so I wouldn't have a problem with flying either a C26 orC27 plug in an A-65. (The C26 was the original plug in the A-65s)The C26 is a rough equivalent to a M40E and the C27 is a rough equivalent to aM41E for heat range. The C series spark plugs are unshielded, while the M seriesare electrically shielded. All the plugs listed here are 18MM thread with1/2" reach. Note that none of these plugs are resistor type plugs, so if youwant to run them, make sure your magnetos are OK to run non-resistor type plugs.The AM-4 series Eisemanns are unshielded, as are the original harnesseson the old Bendix Scintilla SF-4 series mags. I have run C26 plugs on a LA-4series Eisemann with no issues as well. The newer Bendix and the Slick magsare designed for shielded resistor type plugs. I would be especially leery ofrunning the C type plugs (or any non-resistor type plug) on a Slick Magneto.That is not to say they won't run. Only that the Slick Coils seems to be verysensitive to incorrect spark plug resistance and are prone to insulation breakdown and internal arcing in the coil when things aren't right.The link below will take you to a .pdf with lots of really good Champion sparkplug data. Towards the bottom is a listing of current and discontinued plugswith some descriptions of them. At the top is a listing of what all the numbersand letters in the spark plug designator mean.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Champion C-26 Plugs
Mike-Here's a very thorough response to your question, from my A&P (and Continentalspecialist) friend Jeff Scott in Los Alamos:===============For Champion, the higher number is a hotter plug (or heat range)........meaningthe plug runs at a hotter temperature because it transfers heat from the combustionchamber slower. That is accomplished by moving the ceramic insulator furtherback up inside the plug a bit farther, so it takes longer for heat to transferup the electrode and dissipate through the plug to the cylinder head andoutside air.So, that means the C27 plug is one heat range hotter than a C26 plug. That usuallyisn't a big deal in a 4 stroke engine and the A series engines could usuallyuse a hotter plug, so I wouldn't have a problem with flying either a C26 orC27 plug in an A-65. (The C26 was the original plug in the A-65s)The C26 is a rough equivalent to a M40E and the C27 is a rough equivalent to aM41E for heat range. The C series spark plugs are unshielded, while the M seriesare electrically shielded. All the plugs listed here are 18MM thread with1/2" reach. Note that none of these plugs are resistor type plugs, so if youwant to run them, make sure your magnetos are OK to run non-resistor type plugs.The AM-4 series Eisemanns are unshielded, as are the original harnesseson the old Bendix Scintilla SF-4 series mags. I have run C26 plugs on a LA-4series Eisemann with no issues as well. The newer Bendix and the Slick magsare designed for shielded resistor type plugs. I would be especially leery ofrunning the C type plugs (or any non-resistor type plug) on a Slick Magneto.That is not to say they won't run. Only that the Slick Coils seems to be verysensitive to incorrect spark plug resistance and are prone to insulation breakdown and internal arcing in the coil when things aren't right.The link below will take you to a .pdf with lots of really good Champion sparkplug data. Towards the bottom is a listing of current and discontinued plugswith some descriptions of them. At the top is a listing of what all the numbersand letters in the spark plug designator mean.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Champion C-26 Plugs
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Thanks Oscar, I didn't see a link...Sent from my iPadJack TextorOn Jun 18, 2013, at 10:12 AM, "taildrags" wrote:> > Mike-> > Here's a very thorough response to your question, from my A&P (and Continentalspecialist) friend Jeff Scott in Los Alamos:> ===============> For Champion, the higher number is a hotter plug (or heat range)........meaningthe plug runs at a hotter temperature because it transfers heat from the combustionchamber slower. That is accomplished by moving the ceramic insulatorfurther back up inside the plug a bit farther, so it takes longer for heat totransfer up the electrode and dissipate through the plug to the cylinder headand outside air.> > > So, that means the C27 plug is one heat range hotter than a C26 plug. That usuallyisn't a big deal in a 4 stroke engine and the A series engines could usuallyuse a hotter plug, so I wouldn't have a problem with flying either a C26or C27 plug in an A-65. (The C26 was the original plug in the A-65s)> > > The C26 is a rough equivalent to a M40E and the C27 is a rough equivalent toa M41E for heat range. The C series spark plugs are unshielded, while the M seriesare electrically shielded. All the plugs listed here are 18MM thread with1/2" reach. Note that none of these plugs are resistor type plugs, so ifyou want to run them, make sure your magnetos are OK to run non-resistor typeplugs. The AM-4 series Eisemanns are unshielded, as are the original harnesseson the old Bendix Scintilla SF-4 series mags. I have run C26 plugs on a LA-4series Eisemann with no issues as well. The newer Bendix and the Slick magsare designed for shielded resistor type plugs. I would be especially leeryof running the C type plugs (or any non-resistor type plug) on a Slick Magneto.That is not to say they won't run. Only that the Slick Coils seems to be verysensitive to incorrect spark plug resistance and are prone to insulation breakdown and internal arcing in the coil when things !> aren't right.> > The link below will take you to a .pdf with lots of really good Champion sparkplug data. Towards the bottom is a listing of current and discontinued plugswith some descriptions of them. At the top is a listing of what all the numbersand letters in the spark plug designator mean.> > > > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 943#402943> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:59:11 -0700 (PDT)
Thanks Oscar, I didn't see a link...Sent from my iPadJack TextorOn Jun 18, 2013, at 10:12 AM, "taildrags" wrote:> > Mike-> > Here's a very thorough response to your question, from my A&P (and Continentalspecialist) friend Jeff Scott in Los Alamos:> ===============> For Champion, the higher number is a hotter plug (or heat range)........meaningthe plug runs at a hotter temperature because it transfers heat from the combustionchamber slower. That is accomplished by moving the ceramic insulatorfurther back up inside the plug a bit farther, so it takes longer for heat totransfer up the electrode and dissipate through the plug to the cylinder headand outside air.> > > So, that means the C27 plug is one heat range hotter than a C26 plug. That usuallyisn't a big deal in a 4 stroke engine and the A series engines could usuallyuse a hotter plug, so I wouldn't have a problem with flying either a C26or C27 plug in an A-65. (The C26 was the original plug in the A-65s)> > > The C26 is a rough equivalent to a M40E and the C27 is a rough equivalent toa M41E for heat range. The C series spark plugs are unshielded, while the M seriesare electrically shielded. All the plugs listed here are 18MM thread with1/2" reach. Note that none of these plugs are resistor type plugs, so ifyou want to run them, make sure your magnetos are OK to run non-resistor typeplugs. The AM-4 series Eisemanns are unshielded, as are the original harnesseson the old Bendix Scintilla SF-4 series mags. I have run C26 plugs on a LA-4series Eisemann with no issues as well. The newer Bendix and the Slick magsare designed for shielded resistor type plugs. I would be especially leeryof running the C type plugs (or any non-resistor type plug) on a Slick Magneto.That is not to say they won't run. Only that the Slick Coils seems to be verysensitive to incorrect spark plug resistance and are prone to insulation breakdown and internal arcing in the coil when things !> aren't right.> > The link below will take you to a .pdf with lots of really good Champion sparkplug data. Towards the bottom is a listing of current and discontinued plugswith some descriptions of them. At the top is a listing of what all the numbersand letters in the spark plug designator mean.> > > > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 943#402943> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:59:11 -0700 (PDT)
Pietenpol-List: Re: Sunset - send in your favorite photo
Original Posted By: "bender"
Mike; it cropped the link or didn't include it. Let me try again:http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... 78,d.aWcIn case the link doesn't post, I'm sure you can Google it. Look for AV-14-Jan2010.pdfat championaerospace.com--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sunset - send in your favorite photo
Mike; it cropped the link or didn't include it. Let me try again:http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... 78,d.aWcIn case the link doesn't post, I'm sure you can Google it. Look for AV-14-Jan2010.pdfat championaerospace.com--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sunset - send in your favorite photo
Pietenpol-List: Re: engine out..
Original Posted By: "bender"
the sun was setting..Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/bw_8 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: engine out..
the sun was setting..Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/bw_8 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: engine out..
Re: Pietenpol-List: Sunset - send in your favorite photo
Original Posted By: cessna7226g(at)aol.com
Picked up a coupe of nice doug fir boards today.. and got he plane side scarf cut..that was the hardest one.. a new pull cut handsaw and a lot of cutting gotit 15:1..jeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sunset - send in your favorite photo
Picked up a coupe of nice doug fir boards today.. and got he plane side scarf cut..that was the hardest one.. a new pull cut handsaw and a lot of cutting gotit 15:1..jeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sunset - send in your favorite photo
Pietenpol-List: Sunset - send in your favorite photo
Original Posted By: shad bell