Original Posted By: airlion2(at)gmail.com
#yiv1379812791 p {margin:0;}Gardiner Here's what I would try. Wet sand what you have with 600 grit paper wrapped around a sponge. You need to sand out and "orange peel" texture left from rolling. Get a cheap Harbor Freight gravity fed HVLP spray gun. They are $15.99 on sale. Thin your paint about 20% with wind shield washer fluid and spray 2 more coats, letting each dry for a day. Sand in between coats lightly with 600 grit wet. Stay away from the pinked tape and edges. Wet sand the final coat lightly and carefully with 1000 grit, then 1200 grit, then 1500 grit. Use 3M polishing compound with a buffer to bring out the shine. You can use the polishing compound on a towel around the edges and pinked areas. It sounds like a lot of work, but it really doesn't take that long and the results are worth it (in my opinion) Good luck and keep us posted on how you're doing Malcolm
Pietenpol-List: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation.
Pietenpol-List: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation.
Original Posted By: gliderx5(at)comcast.net
Re: Pietenpol-List: Latex Paint Forum
Original Posted By: norm
Pietenpol-List: Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation.
Original Posted By: "tools"
It might throw it out the tip, but it's not going to be a very servicable set upin my experience (I've used them a fair amount). They're not much better thana paint brush anyway. It' specifically addressed as not suitable for airplane finish application in thePoly Fiber manual.I do know that turbine based HVLPs do the job well, that's how I finish kitchencabinets (I don't like lacquer). I spray unthinned spar varnish through themall the time with great results. Gotta be super anal about cleaning them ifyou're using two part varnishes. I don't know about cheaper Harbor Freight conversionguns. I know they work well for thinner finishes, just haven't triedthem on thick stuft.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation.
It might throw it out the tip, but it's not going to be a very servicable set upin my experience (I've used them a fair amount). They're not much better thana paint brush anyway. It' specifically addressed as not suitable for airplane finish application in thePoly Fiber manual.I do know that turbine based HVLPs do the job well, that's how I finish kitchencabinets (I don't like lacquer). I spray unthinned spar varnish through themall the time with great results. Gotta be super anal about cleaning them ifyou're using two part varnishes. I don't know about cheaper Harbor Freight conversionguns. I know they work well for thinner finishes, just haven't triedthem on thick stuft.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation.
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
I think Jeff and Lana Souders own that Piet.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I think Jeff and Lana Souders own that Piet.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation.
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
...yet, I, too, think of it as Dan Yocum's, possibly because he freely gavecontrol to me from the rear cockpit, offering me my first opportunity topilot a Piet, after not flying for nearly 30 years! Yep, that's Dan'sPiet...Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
...yet, I, too, think of it as Dan Yocum's, possibly because he freely gavecontrol to me from the rear cockpit, offering me my first opportunity topilot a Piet, after not flying for nearly 30 years! Yep, that's Dan'sPiet...Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation.
Original Posted By: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB"
Probably the more clear description would be "the Pietenpol built by Dan Yocum".I think the Souders would agree with that statement, but not the former, asthey are the owners now.That type of description is used with varying levels of consistency on the forum.For instance, Mike Danford's Piet has been referred to as "Dick Navratils'sPiet" when, clearly, Dick built it, yet he no longer owns it (like Dan). Yetother people refer to Oscar Zuniga's Piet as "Oscar's Piet" and not "Corky's Piet",when, without a doubt, Corky built it.It just seems the first method of description is sometimes used as a way of separating"real builders" from "just buyers". When the reality is is that this forumis full of both and they both bring much to the table. I think that thatis what Tools was getting at, and I agree with him. I am sure, Gary, that you do look at it the way that you do because Dan was verykind to you at that time. Well, Tools has been very helpful and giving to mein my build, so I think of his airplane as "Mike's Piet, built by Dick".And isn't that what this forum is all about? Helping each other, as well as celebratingeach other's triumphs as we build? That is what I always thought.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Probably the more clear description would be "the Pietenpol built by Dan Yocum".I think the Souders would agree with that statement, but not the former, asthey are the owners now.That type of description is used with varying levels of consistency on the forum.For instance, Mike Danford's Piet has been referred to as "Dick Navratils'sPiet" when, clearly, Dick built it, yet he no longer owns it (like Dan). Yetother people refer to Oscar Zuniga's Piet as "Oscar's Piet" and not "Corky's Piet",when, without a doubt, Corky built it.It just seems the first method of description is sometimes used as a way of separating"real builders" from "just buyers". When the reality is is that this forumis full of both and they both bring much to the table. I think that thatis what Tools was getting at, and I agree with him. I am sure, Gary, that you do look at it the way that you do because Dan was verykind to you at that time. Well, Tools has been very helpful and giving to mein my build, so I think of his airplane as "Mike's Piet, built by Dick".And isn't that what this forum is all about? Helping each other, as well as celebratingeach other's triumphs as we build? That is what I always thought.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation.
Original Posted By: "tools"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation. UNCLASSIFIEDI totaly agree with the naming convention. Of course that means that mine willbe called:"Pietenpol started by EAA chapter 35, completed by George Waterman, flown by many,initial restoration by John Kuhfal and restoration finished by Steve D." But I am cool with that.Steve D On 08/05/13, jarheadpilot82 wrote:> > Probably the more clear description would be "the Pietenpol built by Dan Yocum".I think the Souders would agree with that statement, but not the former, asthey are the owners now.> > That type of description is used with varying levels of consistency on the forum.For instance, Mike Danford's Piet has been referred to as "Dick Navratils'sPiet" when, clearly, Dick built it, yet he no longer owns it (like Dan). Yetother people refer to Oscar Zuniga's Piet as "Oscar's Piet" and not "Corky'sPiet", when, without a doubt, Corky built it.> > It just seems the first method of description is sometimes used as a way of separating"real builders" from "just buyers". When the reality is is that thisforum is full of both and they both bring much to the table. I think that thatis what Tools was getting at, and I agree with him. > > I am sure, Gary, that you do look at it the way that you do because Dan was verykind to you at that time. Well, Tools has been very helpful and giving tome in my build, so I think of his airplane as "Mike's Piet, built by Dick".> > And isn't that what this forum is all about? Helping each other, as well as celebratingeach other's triumphs as we build? That is what I always thought.> > --------> Semper Fi,> > Terry Hand> Athens, GA> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 955#405955> > > > > > > UNCLASSIFIED________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation.
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation. UNCLASSIFIEDI totaly agree with the naming convention. Of course that means that mine willbe called:"Pietenpol started by EAA chapter 35, completed by George Waterman, flown by many,initial restoration by John Kuhfal and restoration finished by Steve D." But I am cool with that.Steve D On 08/05/13, jarheadpilot82 wrote:> > Probably the more clear description would be "the Pietenpol built by Dan Yocum".I think the Souders would agree with that statement, but not the former, asthey are the owners now.> > That type of description is used with varying levels of consistency on the forum.For instance, Mike Danford's Piet has been referred to as "Dick Navratils'sPiet" when, clearly, Dick built it, yet he no longer owns it (like Dan). Yetother people refer to Oscar Zuniga's Piet as "Oscar's Piet" and not "Corky'sPiet", when, without a doubt, Corky built it.> > It just seems the first method of description is sometimes used as a way of separating"real builders" from "just buyers". When the reality is is that thisforum is full of both and they both bring much to the table. I think that thatis what Tools was getting at, and I agree with him. > > I am sure, Gary, that you do look at it the way that you do because Dan was verykind to you at that time. Well, Tools has been very helpful and giving tome in my build, so I think of his airplane as "Mike's Piet, built by Dick".> > And isn't that what this forum is all about? Helping each other, as well as celebratingeach other's triumphs as we build? That is what I always thought.> > --------> Semper Fi,> > Terry Hand> Athens, GA> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 955#405955> > > > > > > UNCLASSIFIED________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation.
Pietenpol-List: Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation.
Original Posted By: "skybachs"
Wow, I remember seeing pics of that plane when I was a kid. Amazing the stuffI have forgotten. Thanks for the memories. I don't know anything about theplane except seeing the Pics.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation.
Wow, I remember seeing pics of that plane when I was a kid. Amazing the stuffI have forgotten. Thanks for the memories. I don't know anything about theplane except seeing the Pics.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation.
Original Posted By: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB"
I don't agree with the naming convention: Dans Piet (which was built by someoneelse) I'd Dan's because he flies it, shows it, and writes about it. We know itas his and very few of us know the builders,My Piet isn't mine anymore, it belongs to the delightfully droll Brad Williams.Now, if you want to start a Naming convention like they do with purebred cats orfamous violins, we can set up a committee to think about the possible methodsto appoint a group to study the methodology for assembling a panel to beginthe selection process of naming a consultant to advise the Forum on possible candidatesto examine the history and epistemology of a Board that, given a modicumof authority) could write the bylaws to oversee the Committee for Creatinga Naming Standard.I will , by the end of Time, have several Piets built and flying. Proud to havethem, like children, all named after me... but like our progeny, they will somedaybe married off to suitable suitors and have a life of their own.--------NX29NX, C65, Hegy prop, Blue/Cream flying!NX31TM, C85-12, GN-1, 90% done, Red/CreamNX30NX, Corvair, on gear, wings/tail doneNX31NX, Hatz CB-1, O-320B, on gear, ribs doneRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I don't agree with the naming convention: Dans Piet (which was built by someoneelse) I'd Dan's because he flies it, shows it, and writes about it. We know itas his and very few of us know the builders,My Piet isn't mine anymore, it belongs to the delightfully droll Brad Williams.Now, if you want to start a Naming convention like they do with purebred cats orfamous violins, we can set up a committee to think about the possible methodsto appoint a group to study the methodology for assembling a panel to beginthe selection process of naming a consultant to advise the Forum on possible candidatesto examine the history and epistemology of a Board that, given a modicumof authority) could write the bylaws to oversee the Committee for Creatinga Naming Standard.I will , by the end of Time, have several Piets built and flying. Proud to havethem, like children, all named after me... but like our progeny, they will somedaybe married off to suitable suitors and have a life of their own.--------NX29NX, C65, Hegy prop, Blue/Cream flying!NX31TM, C85-12, GN-1, 90% done, Red/CreamNX30NX, Corvair, on gear, wings/tail doneNX31NX, Hatz CB-1, O-320B, on gear, ribs doneRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation.
Original Posted By: Bkemike
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation. UNCLASSIFIEDHad a Keeshond once named "Shamus son of one Fussy Hussy." He was papered and everything.Great Dog but magnetic. How about that for the beginning of a naming convention! NX3379, Steve's Piet,made by George Waterman of Medina, Texas. Or Steve's Piet, Formerly known as John,and George's Piet.I am going to ask around and see if the original builder is still alive. I wouldlove to meet him and pick his brain.Steve D.On 08/06/13, skybachs wrote:> > I don't agree with the naming convention: Dans Piet (which was built by someoneelse) I'd Dan's because he flies it, shows it, and writes about it. We knowit as his and very few of us know the builders,> > My Piet isn't mine anymore, it belongs to the delightfully droll Brad Williams.> > Now, if you want to start a Naming convention like they do with purebred catsor famous violins, we can set up a committee to think about the possible methodsto appoint a group to study the methodology for assembling a panel to beginthe selection process of naming a consultant to advise the Forum on possiblecandidates to examine the history and epistemology of a Board that, given a modicumof authority) could write the bylaws to oversee the Committee for Creatinga Naming Standard.> > I will , by the end of Time, have several Piets built and flying. Proud to havethem, like children, all named after me... but like our progeny, they willsomeday be married off to suitable suitors and have a life of their own.> > --------> NX29NX, C65, Hegy prop, Blue/Cream flying!> NX31TM, C85-12, GN-1, 90% done, Red/Cream> NX30NX, Corvair, on gear, wings/tail done> NX31NX, Hatz CB-1, O-320B, on gear, ribs done> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 072#406072> > > > > > > UNCLASSIFIED________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation. UNCLASSIFIEDHad a Keeshond once named "Shamus son of one Fussy Hussy." He was papered and everything.Great Dog but magnetic. How about that for the beginning of a naming convention! NX3379, Steve's Piet,made by George Waterman of Medina, Texas. Or Steve's Piet, Formerly known as John,and George's Piet.I am going to ask around and see if the original builder is still alive. I wouldlove to meet him and pick his brain.Steve D.On 08/06/13, skybachs wrote:> > I don't agree with the naming convention: Dans Piet (which was built by someoneelse) I'd Dan's because he flies it, shows it, and writes about it. We knowit as his and very few of us know the builders,> > My Piet isn't mine anymore, it belongs to the delightfully droll Brad Williams.> > Now, if you want to start a Naming convention like they do with purebred catsor famous violins, we can set up a committee to think about the possible methodsto appoint a group to study the methodology for assembling a panel to beginthe selection process of naming a consultant to advise the Forum on possiblecandidates to examine the history and epistemology of a Board that, given a modicumof authority) could write the bylaws to oversee the Committee for Creatinga Naming Standard.> > I will , by the end of Time, have several Piets built and flying. Proud to havethem, like children, all named after me... but like our progeny, they willsomeday be married off to suitable suitors and have a life of their own.> > --------> NX29NX, C65, Hegy prop, Blue/Cream flying!> NX31TM, C85-12, GN-1, 90% done, Red/Cream> NX30NX, Corvair, on gear, wings/tail done> NX31NX, Hatz CB-1, O-320B, on gear, ribs done> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 072#406072> > > > > > > UNCLASSIFIED________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation.
Original Posted By: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB"
We will name our perpetual project "Sisyphus."Mike HardawayTapped on an iPad.On Aug 6, 2013, at 12:15 PM, "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" wrote:> > UNCLASSIFIED> Had a Keeshond once named "Shamus son of one Fussy Hussy." He was papered andeverything. Great Dog but magnetic. > > How about that for the beginning of a naming convention! NX3379, Steve's Piet,made by George Waterman of Medina, Texas. Or Steve's Piet, Formerly known asJohn, and George's Piet.> > I am going to ask around and see if the original builder is still alive. I wouldlove to meet him and pick his brain.> > Steve D.> > > On 08/06/13, skybachs wrote:>> [snip]> UNCLASSIFIED> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
We will name our perpetual project "Sisyphus."Mike HardawayTapped on an iPad.On Aug 6, 2013, at 12:15 PM, "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" wrote:> > UNCLASSIFIED> Had a Keeshond once named "Shamus son of one Fussy Hussy." He was papered andeverything. Great Dog but magnetic. > > How about that for the beginning of a naming convention! NX3379, Steve's Piet,made by George Waterman of Medina, Texas. Or Steve's Piet, Formerly known asJohn, and George's Piet.> > I am going to ask around and see if the original builder is still alive. I wouldlove to meet him and pick his brain.> > Steve D.> > > On 08/06/13, skybachs wrote:>> [snip]> UNCLASSIFIED> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Moving the wing back
Original Posted By: "scudrun"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation. UNCLASSIFIEDI do NOT like that name. It hits too close to home. LOL Steve D On 08/06/13, Bkemike wrote:> > We will name our perpetual project "Sisyphus."> > Mike Hardaway> > Tapped on an iPad.> > > > > On Aug 6, 2013, at 12:15 PM, "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" wrote:> > > > > UNCLASSIFIED> > Had a Keeshond once named "Shamus son of one Fussy Hussy." He was papered andeverything. Great Dog but magnetic. > > > > How about that for the beginning of a naming convention! NX3379, Steve's Piet,made by George Waterman of Medina, Texas. Or Steve's Piet, Formerly knownas John, and George's Piet.> > > > I am going to ask around and see if the original builder is still alive. Iwould love to meet him and pick his brain.> > > > Steve D.> > > > > > On 08/06/13, skybachs wrote:> > >> [snip]> > > UNCLASSIFIED> > > > > > > > > > UNCLASSIFIED________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Moving the wing back
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation. UNCLASSIFIEDI do NOT like that name. It hits too close to home. LOL Steve D On 08/06/13, Bkemike wrote:> > We will name our perpetual project "Sisyphus."> > Mike Hardaway> > Tapped on an iPad.> > > > > On Aug 6, 2013, at 12:15 PM, "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" wrote:> > > > > UNCLASSIFIED> > Had a Keeshond once named "Shamus son of one Fussy Hussy." He was papered andeverything. Great Dog but magnetic. > > > > How about that for the beginning of a naming convention! NX3379, Steve's Piet,made by George Waterman of Medina, Texas. Or Steve's Piet, Formerly knownas John, and George's Piet.> > > > I am going to ask around and see if the original builder is still alive. Iwould love to meet him and pick his brain.> > > > Steve D.> > > > > > On 08/06/13, skybachs wrote:> > >> [snip]> > > UNCLASSIFIED> > > > > > > > > > UNCLASSIFIED________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Moving the wing back