Original Posted By: steven sadler
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges
Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges
RE: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]"
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Aileron HingesSteve- I don't know if you can extrapolate the width of my hinges from this photo but I used the extruded aluminumhinge material as well vs. the rolled because Tony Bingelis says they are the preffered type to use on control surfaces.I used some aileron hinges to join my cowling halves together as well-riveted to the inside of the cowling. The hingepin just pulls out with a pair of needle nose pliers or my teeth if I'm feeling mean.Mike C.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Aileron HingesSteve- I don't know if you can extrapolate the width of my hinges from this photo but I used the extruded aluminumhinge material as well vs. the rolled because Tony Bingelis says they are the preffered type to use on control surfaces.I used some aileron hinges to join my cowling halves together as well-riveted to the inside of the cowling. The hingepin just pulls out with a pair of needle nose pliers or my teeth if I'm feeling mean.Mike C.________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges
Original Posted By: steven sadler
Hell, it seems like everyone is facing a class action suit for one thing or anotherin this country. Wake up on the wrong side of the bed? Sue somebody! Alright...a bit of a stretch. I'm not defending the 3G network... I just offered a brief and general description.In my neck of the woods (fairly un-congested), I normally get pretty decentresults using my 3G stuff. Not outweighed by poor infrastructure in my case.Then again... I've installed a proper aerial, which in it's fixed locationand normally provides a full strength and uninterrupted signal.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:10:06 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges
Hell, it seems like everyone is facing a class action suit for one thing or anotherin this country. Wake up on the wrong side of the bed? Sue somebody! Alright...a bit of a stretch. I'm not defending the 3G network... I just offered a brief and general description.In my neck of the woods (fairly un-congested), I normally get pretty decentresults using my 3G stuff. Not outweighed by poor infrastructure in my case.Then again... I've installed a proper aerial, which in it's fixed locationand normally provides a full strength and uninterrupted signal.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:10:06 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges
Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage building for Continental engine
Original Posted By: Robert Ray
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Aileron HingesThanks for the picture. From what I can see it looks like you have the 2" hinges(i.e. 2 x 1" halves), assuming that the height of the aileron spar is about2.5". How has this worked out for you? Any problems?Steve-- that sounds about right on your size estimate for my hinges. I couldn'tbe happier with the aluminum piano hinges. They seal the gap making the aileronsmuch moreeffective (and much less sluggish) and I have done literally ZERO maintenance onthem in 11 years besides wiping them down when I clean the airplane. Loveem'. No regrets. Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:59:59 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage building for Continental engine
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Aileron HingesThanks for the picture. From what I can see it looks like you have the 2" hinges(i.e. 2 x 1" halves), assuming that the height of the aileron spar is about2.5". How has this worked out for you? Any problems?Steve-- that sounds about right on your size estimate for my hinges. I couldn'tbe happier with the aluminum piano hinges. They seal the gap making the aileronsmuch moreeffective (and much less sluggish) and I have done literally ZERO maintenance onthem in 11 years besides wiping them down when I clean the airplane. Loveem'. No regrets. Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:59:59 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage building for Continental engine
RE: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges
Original Posted By: shad bell
Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges
Original Posted By: steven sadler
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pat Benatar didn't need no stinkin GPS.....Ya.. but the T-6 was deadly in a dogfight.. right? In a message dated 9/11/2009 4:43:52 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, taildrags(at)hotmail.com writes:--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Oscar Zuniga Apparently she didn't need no stinkin' hands on thestinkin' controls, either.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 10:19:53 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pat Benatar didn't need no stinkin GPS.....Ya.. but the T-6 was deadly in a dogfight.. right? In a message dated 9/11/2009 4:43:52 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, taildrags(at)hotmail.com writes:--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Oscar Zuniga Apparently she didn't need no stinkin' hands on thestinkin' controls, either.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 10:19:53 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges
Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges
Original Posted By: "Pietflyer1977"
Ditto what Douwe said Mario. It's cool that your's is a family project. Is that your father helping you?Greg BaconNX114DOn Aug 9, 2013, at 7:45 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" wrote:> I just looked at your Pietenpol site Mario and it is going to be a beautiful airplane!! Congratulations on your progress!> > Douwe> > ============================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges
Ditto what Douwe said Mario. It's cool that your's is a family project. Is that your father helping you?Greg BaconNX114DOn Aug 9, 2013, at 7:45 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" wrote:> I just looked at your Pietenpol site Mario and it is going to be a beautiful airplane!! Congratulations on your progress!> > Douwe> > ============================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges
Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Hinges
Original Posted By: "tools"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BEAUTIFUL WORK MARIO!!thank you, yes he is, he did a lot of "iron" work. I try to put my wife,doughter, son, etc in job, but they are afraid in get involved in thiskind of job. But some things they did, they paint, my doughter sewed someribs of the wing, and others things.RegardsMario Giacummo2013/8/9 Gmail > Ditto what Douwe said Mario. It's cool that your's is a family project.> Is that your father helping you?>> Greg Bacon> NX114D>> On Aug 9, 2013, at 7:45 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" > wrote:>> I just looked at your Pietenpol site Mario and it is going to be a> beautiful airplane!! Congratulations on your progress!****>> ** **>> Douwe****>> *>> *>> *>> *>>________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Hinges
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BEAUTIFUL WORK MARIO!!thank you, yes he is, he did a lot of "iron" work. I try to put my wife,doughter, son, etc in job, but they are afraid in get involved in thiskind of job. But some things they did, they paint, my doughter sewed someribs of the wing, and others things.RegardsMario Giacummo2013/8/9 Gmail > Ditto what Douwe said Mario. It's cool that your's is a family project.> Is that your father helping you?>> Greg Bacon> NX114D>> On Aug 9, 2013, at 7:45 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" > wrote:>> I just looked at your Pietenpol site Mario and it is going to be a> beautiful airplane!! Congratulations on your progress!****>> ** **>> Douwe****>> *>> *>> *>> *>>________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Hinges
Original Posted By: Mario Giacummo
Would like to know how others have done there piano hinges on the ailerons. Didyou leave the 3/8" gap as on the plans or have to change the distance? Is thehinge flush with the top of the wing or is it sticking up? Any close up pictureswould be of great help. Also maybe the size of hinge also. ThanksRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Would like to know how others have done there piano hinges on the ailerons. Didyou leave the 3/8" gap as on the plans or have to change the distance? Is thehinge flush with the top of the wing or is it sticking up? Any close up pictureswould be of great help. Also maybe the size of hinge also. ThanksRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Original Posted By: Mario Giacummo
2RN has 1 1/8" aluminum piano hinges, set on the face of the leading edge of theaileron and face of the trailing edge of the wing (the rear spar at that point),down from the top to where the top of the hinge is JUST below the surface.Hard to tell it's there at all. The hinge is 1/4" thick, and by the time it sitson several layers of fabric and paint, I'm not sure Dick had to do anythingto get everything to match up insofar as the 3/8 gap.It's held in place with 10/32 SS machine screws about every 8", into nut plateson the inside face of the rear spar.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
2RN has 1 1/8" aluminum piano hinges, set on the face of the leading edge of theaileron and face of the trailing edge of the wing (the rear spar at that point),down from the top to where the top of the hinge is JUST below the surface.Hard to tell it's there at all. The hinge is 1/4" thick, and by the time it sitson several layers of fabric and paint, I'm not sure Dick had to do anythingto get everything to match up insofar as the 3/8 gap.It's held in place with 10/32 SS machine screws about every 8", into nut plateson the inside face of the rear spar.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges
Original Posted By: shad bell
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron HingesMy hinges are cut it in two pieces, because the bolts that hold the controlcorn are outside de plywood piece and interrupt the path.About the 3/8" gap.. I do not mesure my gap, but is the hinge thicknesnow; and the top of the hinge is aligned with the rib profile.Not photos of the job.But be careful, my plane do not fly yet ;o)____Mario Giacummo2013/8/9 Pietflyer1977 >> Would like to know how others have done there piano hinges on the> ailerons. Did you leave the 3/8" gap as on the plans or have to change the> distance? Is the hinge flush with the top of the wing or is it sticking up?> Any close up pictures would be of great help. Also maybe the size of hinge> also. Thanks>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 07:56:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron HingesMy hinges are cut it in two pieces, because the bolts that hold the controlcorn are outside de plywood piece and interrupt the path.About the 3/8" gap.. I do not mesure my gap, but is the hinge thicknesnow; and the top of the hinge is aligned with the rib profile.Not photos of the job.But be careful, my plane do not fly yet ;o)____Mario Giacummo2013/8/9 Pietflyer1977 >> Would like to know how others have done there piano hinges on the> ailerons. Did you leave the 3/8" gap as on the plans or have to change the> distance? Is the hinge flush with the top of the wing or is it sticking up?> Any close up pictures would be of great help. Also maybe the size of hinge> also. Thanks>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 07:56:47 -0700 (PDT)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges
Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron HingesDid you drill a conic hole (to hold the nut head) in de hinge or juststright?Mario Giacummo2013/8/9 Rick Holland > Attached a couple of pictures of mine, blind nuts on the back of the> spars, gap is just the thickness of the piano hinge, used the extruded ones> but most agree the less expensive ones are fine.>> rick h>>> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Pietflyer1977 wrote:>>>>> Would like to know how others have done there piano hinges on the>> ailerons. Did you leave the 3/8" gap as on the plans or have to change the>> distance? Is the hinge flush with the top of the wing or is it sticking up?>> Any close up pictures would be of great help. Also maybe the size of hinge>> also. Thanks>>>>>>>>>> Read this topic online here:>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 310#406310>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ==========>> st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>> ==========>> http://forums.matronics.com>> ==========>> le, List Admin.>> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution>> ==========>>>>>>>>>>> --> Rick Holland> Castle Rock, Colorado> NX6819Z>>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 10:51:15 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron HingesDid you drill a conic hole (to hold the nut head) in de hinge or juststright?Mario Giacummo2013/8/9 Rick Holland > Attached a couple of pictures of mine, blind nuts on the back of the> spars, gap is just the thickness of the piano hinge, used the extruded ones> but most agree the less expensive ones are fine.>> rick h>>> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Pietflyer1977 wrote:>>>>> Would like to know how others have done there piano hinges on the>> ailerons. Did you leave the 3/8" gap as on the plans or have to change the>> distance? Is the hinge flush with the top of the wing or is it sticking up?>> Any close up pictures would be of great help. Also maybe the size of hinge>> also. Thanks>>>>>>>>>> Read this topic online here:>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 310#406310>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ==========>> st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>> ==========>> http://forums.matronics.com>> ==========>> le, List Admin.>> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution>> ==========>>>>>>>>>>> --> Rick Holland> Castle Rock, Colorado> NX6819Z>>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 10:51:15 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges
Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges
Original Posted By: Jack
Mine has countersunk (I presume what you mean by "conic") holes in the hinge...however, regular flat head screws were used and they're fine. Since the hinge(in total) is thicker than the wide parts where the screws go through, there'sroom for a screw head without interference. If you rely on that clearance,you need to offset the screws in each half because there isn't room for two screwheads. This would require a hinge that isn't predrilled for attachment screws.Or, you can countersink and not worry about it at all, and is a somewhat neaterappearance.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges
Mine has countersunk (I presume what you mean by "conic") holes in the hinge...however, regular flat head screws were used and they're fine. Since the hinge(in total) is thicker than the wide parts where the screws go through, there'sroom for a screw head without interference. If you rely on that clearance,you need to offset the screws in each half because there isn't room for two screwheads. This would require a hinge that isn't predrilled for attachment screws.Or, you can countersink and not worry about it at all, and is a somewhat neaterappearance.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges
Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Hinges
Original Posted By: "Catdesigns"
Make sure to offset the bolts so they won't interfere with each other.Sent from my iPadJack TextorOn Aug 9, 2013, at 9:04 AM, "Pietflyer1977" wrote:> > Would like to know how others have done there piano hinges on the ailerons. Didyou leave the 3/8" gap as on the plans or have to change the distance? Is thehinge flush with the top of the wing or is it sticking up? Any close up pictureswould be of great help. Also maybe the size of hinge also. Thanks> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 310#406310> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Hinges
Make sure to offset the bolts so they won't interfere with each other.Sent from my iPadJack TextorOn Aug 9, 2013, at 9:04 AM, "Pietflyer1977" wrote:> > Would like to know how others have done there piano hinges on the ailerons. Didyou leave the 3/8" gap as on the plans or have to change the distance? Is thehinge flush with the top of the wing or is it sticking up? Any close up pictureswould be of great help. Also maybe the size of hinge also. Thanks> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 310#406310> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Hinges
Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Hinges
Original Posted By: "tools"
Seriously, the best way to do it is to have Jim Markle come over and explain howto do it. I did it just the way he told me to do it and it worked great.Pictures of my installation.http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Chr ... %202.htmIf I did it again I would think about using the simple t-nuts with the 3 prongs.Using the aviation wing nuts makes some of my screws really close to the wingfabric. Also, the hing covers the bolts for the aileron horn. I recessed thehorn bolts into the spar so the hinge goes over the bolts. Your solution maydiffer. I used dome head screws, the heads do not interfere with the way theaileron moves. And yes, remember to offset the bolt heads.Chris--------ChrisSacramento, CAWestCoastPiet.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Hinges
Seriously, the best way to do it is to have Jim Markle come over and explain howto do it. I did it just the way he told me to do it and it worked great.Pictures of my installation.http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Chr ... %202.htmIf I did it again I would think about using the simple t-nuts with the 3 prongs.Using the aviation wing nuts makes some of my screws really close to the wingfabric. Also, the hing covers the bolts for the aileron horn. I recessed thehorn bolts into the spar so the hinge goes over the bolts. Your solution maydiffer. I used dome head screws, the heads do not interfere with the way theaileron moves. And yes, remember to offset the bolt heads.Chris--------ChrisSacramento, CAWestCoastPiet.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Hinges
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Hinges
Original Posted By: Gary Boothe
I would be wary of the woodworking T-nut, as many aircraft finishes tend to dripa lot inside the wing. If any drips on the aileron hinge bolt, when you goto remove, it'll likely come part way out and jam...Then you'll push harder, dislodge the t-nut... and you've got problems.This can be avoided, however, by using the hinge pin instead of the screws to takethe aileron off (should you need to), or perhaps careful treating of the threadsto discourage anything dripping on them from sticking. The aircraft style nut plates held with little screws will work better. I've gotthose t-nuts all over the inspection belly plate, and they give me fits. FortunatelyI can get to the top of them once the plate is off. I've had to cuta few heads off to get that far. Inside the wing, you'll be cutting the fabricunless an inspection hole is nearby.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Hinges
I would be wary of the woodworking T-nut, as many aircraft finishes tend to dripa lot inside the wing. If any drips on the aileron hinge bolt, when you goto remove, it'll likely come part way out and jam...Then you'll push harder, dislodge the t-nut... and you've got problems.This can be avoided, however, by using the hinge pin instead of the screws to takethe aileron off (should you need to), or perhaps careful treating of the threadsto discourage anything dripping on them from sticking. The aircraft style nut plates held with little screws will work better. I've gotthose t-nuts all over the inspection belly plate, and they give me fits. FortunatelyI can get to the top of them once the plate is off. I've had to cuta few heads off to get that far. Inside the wing, you'll be cutting the fabricunless an inspection hole is nearby.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Hinges
Original Posted By: Bkemike
I used T-nuts and set them in epoxy...no worries.GaryNX308MBSent from my iPhoneOn Aug 9, 2013, at 10:38 AM, "tools" wrote:> > I would be wary of the woodworking T-nut, as many aircraft finishes tend to dripa lot inside the wing. If any drips on the aileron hinge bolt, when you goto remove, it'll likely come part way out and jam...> > Then you'll push harder, dislodge the t-nut... and you've got problems.> > This can be avoided, however, by using the hinge pin instead of the screws totake the aileron off (should you need to), or perhaps careful treating of thethreads to discourage anything dripping on them from sticking. > > The aircraft style nut plates held with little screws will work better. I'vegot those t-nuts all over the inspection belly plate, and they give me fits.Fortunately I can get to the top of them once the plate is off. I've had tocut a few heads off to get that far. Inside the wing, you'll be cutting the fabricunless an inspection hole is nearby.> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 342#406342> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
I used T-nuts and set them in epoxy...no worries.GaryNX308MBSent from my iPhoneOn Aug 9, 2013, at 10:38 AM, "tools" wrote:> > I would be wary of the woodworking T-nut, as many aircraft finishes tend to dripa lot inside the wing. If any drips on the aileron hinge bolt, when you goto remove, it'll likely come part way out and jam...> > Then you'll push harder, dislodge the t-nut... and you've got problems.> > This can be avoided, however, by using the hinge pin instead of the screws totake the aileron off (should you need to), or perhaps careful treating of thethreads to discourage anything dripping on them from sticking. > > The aircraft style nut plates held with little screws will work better. I'vegot those t-nuts all over the inspection belly plate, and they give me fits.Fortunately I can get to the top of them once the plate is off. I've had tocut a few heads off to get that far. Inside the wing, you'll be cutting the fabricunless an inspection hole is nearby.> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 342#406342> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges
Original Posted By: Pietflyer1977
Here is something different when it comes to aileron hinges. As I said yesterday, I figure I gain at least 10 or 15 knots because of these
)Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
Here is something different when it comes to aileron hinges. As I said yesterday, I figure I gain at least 10 or 15 knots because of these
)Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Hinges
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I think the locktite would be optional. The consensus is that there are somany screws you are bound to see one loosening before any danger. I recentlyremoved all from the left wing, after 50 hrs, and there were no loosescrews.Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
I think the locktite would be optional. The consensus is that there are somany screws you are bound to see one loosening before any danger. I recentlyremoved all from the left wing, after 50 hrs, and there were no loosescrews.Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Hinges
Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Thanks, Gary.RaySent from my iPadOn Aug 9, 2013, at 10:25 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote:> > I think the locktite would be optional. The consensus is that there are so> many screws you are bound to see one loosening before any danger. I recently> removed all from the left wing, after 50 hrs, and there were no loose> screws.> > Gary Boothe> NX308MB> > > -----Original Message-----
Thanks, Gary.RaySent from my iPadOn Aug 9, 2013, at 10:25 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote:> > I think the locktite would be optional. The consensus is that there are so> many screws you are bound to see one loosening before any danger. I recently> removed all from the left wing, after 50 hrs, and there were no loose> screws.> > Gary Boothe> NX308MB> > > -----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Hinges
Original Posted By: "Pietflyer1977"
Bill, Pretty easy limb to go out on, if you know what a Stewart Headwind is and whatit looks like. Thanks for clearing it up.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Hinges
Bill, Pretty easy limb to go out on, if you know what a Stewart Headwind is and whatit looks like. Thanks for clearing it up.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron Hinges
> Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage building for Continental engine
Original Posted By: "Dick N."
>> bcharvet@bellsouth.net> >>> I initially left the inside plywood off and had to add it later. Its been> a few years and I don't remember exactly why... That piece does tie the> upper motor mounts to the front cabane mount, and this area does get a lot> of holes drilled through the longerons so the extra reinforcement is a good> idea. I put the ash piece where the plans call for it, because I was going> to use a Corvair and it was necessary for the Pietenpol Corvair motor> mount. Now it just reinforces the firewall. All of the various braces> should stand tall like the longerons so they can be gusseted on both sides>> Ben Charvet>> Robert Ray wrote:> > Yes I was thinking the same think? any one know since I> > have located a zero time a-65 with new pistons for 5,000> > minus the mags and carb.> >> > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Michael Perez speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>>> wrote:> >> > I have a few questions for building the short fuselage to use a> > Continental engine.> > Are the large plywood "sides" needed on the inside up front by> the> > top engine mount brackets if the "model A shelf" will not be> > built? Can I use normal size gussets for those top engine mount> > brackets and some wedges?> > The plans for the model A show the large ash cross member up> front> > connecting the sides at about 4.5" down from the top. Is this> > heavy ash member still needed for a Continental and if so, can it> > be moved up closer to the top, nearer the top engine mount> > brackets? Or can a spruce piece be used up at the top same as> > what is shown for the bottom? (The bottom piece is 3/4" X 3/4"> > spruce...seems a little small.)> > Lastly, for now, most of the various braces are 1/2" X 1". Do I> > stand these pieces up so they are 1" tall like the longerons, or> > lay them flat so they are 1/2" tall?> > Thanks is advance.> >> > *> >> > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> > ttp://forums.matronics.com> > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution> >> > *> >> >> > = - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum -http://wwhttp://> forums.matronics.com/" target=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com>>> *>> *>>________________________________________________________________________________
>> bcharvet@bellsouth.net> >>> I initially left the inside plywood off and had to add it later. Its been> a few years and I don't remember exactly why... That piece does tie the> upper motor mounts to the front cabane mount, and this area does get a lot> of holes drilled through the longerons so the extra reinforcement is a good> idea. I put the ash piece where the plans call for it, because I was going> to use a Corvair and it was necessary for the Pietenpol Corvair motor> mount. Now it just reinforces the firewall. All of the various braces> should stand tall like the longerons so they can be gusseted on both sides>> Ben Charvet>> Robert Ray wrote:> > Yes I was thinking the same think? any one know since I> > have located a zero time a-65 with new pistons for 5,000> > minus the mags and carb.> >> > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Michael Perez speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>>> wrote:> >> > I have a few questions for building the short fuselage to use a> > Continental engine.> > Are the large plywood "sides" needed on the inside up front by> the> > top engine mount brackets if the "model A shelf" will not be> > built? Can I use normal size gussets for those top engine mount> > brackets and some wedges?> > The plans for the model A show the large ash cross member up> front> > connecting the sides at about 4.5" down from the top. Is this> > heavy ash member still needed for a Continental and if so, can it> > be moved up closer to the top, nearer the top engine mount> > brackets? Or can a spruce piece be used up at the top same as> > what is shown for the bottom? (The bottom piece is 3/4" X 3/4"> > spruce...seems a little small.)> > Lastly, for now, most of the various braces are 1/2" X 1". Do I> > stand these pieces up so they are 1" tall like the longerons, or> > lay them flat so they are 1/2" tall?> > Thanks is advance.> >> > *> >> > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> > ttp://forums.matronics.com> > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution> >> > *> >> >> > = - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum -http://wwhttp://> forums.matronics.com/" target=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com>>> *>> *>>________________________________________________________________________________