Original Posted By: "bdewenter"
Gary is on a roll ;o) My ELT has a 3-position switch on it... OFF-ARMED-ON. Imerely switch it to the ON position to test, trusting that the momentum-actuatedmechanism inside the gadget will do the same in the event of a sudden stop.I don't really expect it to do anything to save my life or help anybody locatemy suddenly-stopped airplane though.The Narco ELT-10 is designed to be removable from the aircraft and used by thepilot or pax as a hand-held locator transmitter. It has a built-in antenna forthat purpose, and the assumption is that it can be removed from the wreckage(ugh!) and taken to a safe and secure place away from the scene where searcherscan zero in on the occupants and not a tangle of wood and fabric that may bedown in a forest or ravine. Or in Belize.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing rIb components quick and easy
Pietenpol-List: Wing rIb components quick and easy
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]"
I can attest to what others have said about how easy it is to quickly craft boththe wing rib gussets and rib members. The included photo has a lot in it. My wing rib jig is loaded with the first set of components. It is now surroundedby 32 sets of 10 rib members. There are 900+ gussets in the plastic tubsand bags (5 different sizes / shapes).The gussets took a 24"x48" sheet of 1/16" aircraft grade ply and about 6 hoursspread over 3 nights. I used a table saw, chop saw and metal sheers. It was veryeasy to make them.I got home early from a trip yesterday and felt it was a good time to cut the ribcomponents. The 32 sets of 10 rib members took 3 hours.If anyone out there is fretting these tasks, stop now.--------Bob 'Early Builder' DewenterDayton OHRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc0 ... __________
I can attest to what others have said about how easy it is to quickly craft boththe wing rib gussets and rib members. The included photo has a lot in it. My wing rib jig is loaded with the first set of components. It is now surroundedby 32 sets of 10 rib members. There are 900+ gussets in the plastic tubsand bags (5 different sizes / shapes).The gussets took a 24"x48" sheet of 1/16" aircraft grade ply and about 6 hoursspread over 3 nights. I used a table saw, chop saw and metal sheers. It was veryeasy to make them.I got home early from a trip yesterday and felt it was a good time to cut the ribcomponents. The 32 sets of 10 rib members took 3 hours.If anyone out there is fretting these tasks, stop now.--------Bob 'Early Builder' DewenterDayton OHRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc0 ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: being found
Original Posted By: "bdewenter"
With all this talk about ELT's I have to post that during my airworthiness inspection no mention of an ELT was ever madeand from day one I never installed one nor 15 years later have one. I'm sure it would be prudent to carry one but I've justnever done it but then again I don't fly over mountains or rugged terrain. I figure they'll just see the smoke and drive toward it.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: being found
With all this talk about ELT's I have to post that during my airworthiness inspection no mention of an ELT was ever madeand from day one I never installed one nor 15 years later have one. I'm sure it would be prudent to carry one but I've justnever done it but then again I don't fly over mountains or rugged terrain. I figure they'll just see the smoke and drive toward it.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: being found
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
I am not planning on installing an ELT either. Its not required during the 40hour test period. Less weight. less cost. I will not be flying over mountainseither. Planning on using a GPS SPOT like device however for CC flights. Cellor land line phone check ins with someone will also help.--------Bob 'Early Builder' DewenterDayton OHRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I am not planning on installing an ELT either. Its not required during the 40hour test period. Less weight. less cost. I will not be flying over mountainseither. Planning on using a GPS SPOT like device however for CC flights. Cellor land line phone check ins with someone will also help.--------Bob 'Early Builder' DewenterDayton OHRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: being found
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
It's hard to predict what is important to an inspector. Like Mike, my FAAinspector had no interest in seeing the ELT (although I have one mounted),nor was he concerned that the word 'EXPERIMENTAL' was not written on theside of the forward cockpit (he only wanted to see a placard on the forwardpanel with the word 'EXPERIMENTAL' somewhere on the placard), but....He was dead set that I safety all the hose clamps! That's not a reg, either.A year later, at a presentation he did at our EAA chapter, he againmentioned safetying hose clamps! I didn't mind...it didn't take long.Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
It's hard to predict what is important to an inspector. Like Mike, my FAAinspector had no interest in seeing the ELT (although I have one mounted),nor was he concerned that the word 'EXPERIMENTAL' was not written on theside of the forward cockpit (he only wanted to see a placard on the forwardpanel with the word 'EXPERIMENTAL' somewhere on the placard), but....He was dead set that I safety all the hose clamps! That's not a reg, either.A year later, at a presentation he did at our EAA chapter, he againmentioned safetying hose clamps! I didn't mind...it didn't take long.Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: being found
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Nice job Bob! After building the jig and making the first rib, the work of buildingthe rest of the ribs will become easy and rewarding. As I work on the handcarving on the wing tips and finishing the ailerons, I dream of those lackadaisicaldays of building wing ribs.Spent two hours last night in the simulator with Russ. He disabled all the gaugesbut what I would have in my Piet then put me into some tough situations. Most enlightening was flying into clouds and maintaining altitude and level wingswith just the altimeter and magnetic compass.John--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: being found
Nice job Bob! After building the jig and making the first rib, the work of buildingthe rest of the ribs will become easy and rewarding. As I work on the handcarving on the wing tips and finishing the ailerons, I dream of those lackadaisicaldays of building wing ribs.Spent two hours last night in the simulator with Russ. He disabled all the gaugesbut what I would have in my Piet then put me into some tough situations. Most enlightening was flying into clouds and maintaining altitude and level wingswith just the altimeter and magnetic compass.John--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: being found
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]"
Bob and Mike, What does Uncle Tony say about that???? Just kidding, but, The FAA will say youare not legal Mike. After phase 1 testing you (Bob and Mike) are required tohave one in your plane. The only exception would be if the plane is a singleseater. I agree that we really don't need them with all the other tracking devicesand phones available to us these days. If the FAA changed the rules toinclude this centuries technologies the manufacturers would throw a fit. Howwould they stay in business without our money??? Anyway, I hate to see youget in trouble with the FAA someday (during a ramp check) because you don't haveone so I figured I would rant a little. Look at the FAR's and you will seewhat I am talking about. Anyway, just have fun and fly. BTW, Last year while I was going through all the paperwork that is required tobe carried in my plane to be legal, I discovered that I had the wrong "OperatingLimitations" in the plane and flew it that way for 20 years. I was neverramp checked and never was in trouble for it. But, it was an eye opener.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Bob and Mike, What does Uncle Tony say about that???? Just kidding, but, The FAA will say youare not legal Mike. After phase 1 testing you (Bob and Mike) are required tohave one in your plane. The only exception would be if the plane is a singleseater. I agree that we really don't need them with all the other tracking devicesand phones available to us these days. If the FAA changed the rules toinclude this centuries technologies the manufacturers would throw a fit. Howwould they stay in business without our money??? Anyway, I hate to see youget in trouble with the FAA someday (during a ramp check) because you don't haveone so I figured I would rant a little. Look at the FAR's and you will seewhat I am talking about. Anyway, just have fun and fly. BTW, Last year while I was going through all the paperwork that is required tobe carried in my plane to be legal, I discovered that I had the wrong "OperatingLimitations" in the plane and flew it that way for 20 years. I was neverramp checked and never was in trouble for it. But, it was an eye opener.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: being found
Original Posted By: shad bell
You are so right about the regulations Scott and gosh, no wonder Uncle Tony didn't include me in his will......no ELT! I'd better get busy and safety wire all my hose clamps too beforeI fly out to California to visit Gary and the Westcoast Piet bunch. :)We have a great FAA inspector here locally and while he and his wife were at a little private air strip get-together a few years ago my friend Bill Klosz and I razzed the daylights out ofthis guy because he didn't have a compass correction card. We were ramp checking the FAA guy. Thank goodness we have some fair-minded and reasonable Feds around herebut you make a good point--they are all different and they all could hang any one of us on any given day!Mike C.[cid:image001.jpg(at)01CE9F2C.40FB9510]________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 08:46:05 -0700 (PDT)
You are so right about the regulations Scott and gosh, no wonder Uncle Tony didn't include me in his will......no ELT! I'd better get busy and safety wire all my hose clamps too beforeI fly out to California to visit Gary and the Westcoast Piet bunch. :)We have a great FAA inspector here locally and while he and his wife were at a little private air strip get-together a few years ago my friend Bill Klosz and I razzed the daylights out ofthis guy because he didn't have a compass correction card. We were ramp checking the FAA guy. Thank goodness we have some fair-minded and reasonable Feds around herebut you make a good point--they are all different and they all could hang any one of us on any given day!Mike C.[cid:image001.jpg(at)01CE9F2C.40FB9510]________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 08:46:05 -0700 (PDT)