Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Indeed, I live in Gig Harbor across the narrows from Tacoma, WA and Oscar, I don'tmean to talk you out of attending a great event - I only meant that it isnot my cup of tea. You could easily attend it and visit your friends on the sametrip if you're inclined.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: So. California Air Races
Pietenpol-List: So. California Air Races
Pietenpol-List: Re: So. California Air Races
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
We need details!Ray KrauseSent from my iPadOn Aug 26, 2013, at 5:56 AM, "AircamperN11MS" wrote:> > Hi Pieters,> > Since there was some talk last week of air racing a Piet I thought I would giveVintage air racing a try myself. The attached pic is the winners sittingon the podium. Yes the Blue and yellow planes came in second and third. Yesthis past Saturday was a great day. > > If you guys should ever find your way to Flabob airport in Southern CA, don'tmiss looking at the wonderful air racers. They are amazing.> > --------> Scott Liefeld> Flying N11MS since March 1972> Steel Tube> C-85-12> Wire Wheels> Brodhead in 1996> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 487#407487> > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/resi ... 94_170.jpg> http://forums.matronics.com//files/resi ... 94_602.jpg> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: So. California Air Races
We need details!Ray KrauseSent from my iPadOn Aug 26, 2013, at 5:56 AM, "AircamperN11MS" wrote:> > Hi Pieters,> > Since there was some talk last week of air racing a Piet I thought I would giveVintage air racing a try myself. The attached pic is the winners sittingon the podium. Yes the Blue and yellow planes came in second and third. Yesthis past Saturday was a great day. > > If you guys should ever find your way to Flabob airport in Southern CA, don'tmiss looking at the wonderful air racers. They are amazing.> > --------> Scott Liefeld> Flying N11MS since March 1972> Steel Tube> C-85-12> Wire Wheels> Brodhead in 1996> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 487#407487> > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/resi ... 94_170.jpg> http://forums.matronics.com//files/resi ... 94_602.jpg> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: So. California Air Races
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
Well Ray,Since you asked. It was a tough race. I won it with good strategy. They neversaw it coming. It was a standing start race, around the pylons once then landingto a full stop. The piet had the advantage from the start. I broke groundin less than 100 feet and made the first turn before they were wheels up.I got them at the second turn, they just got past me at the third turn and thenthe big surprise was during landing when I was able to get on the ground andstopped in the first few hundred feet of the runway. Those poor guys with alltheir speed had to roll all the way to the end of the runway. I win!!! It was a great day for the Piet community. They will probably never admit tothe loss, so please don't embarrass them by asking. I was there. you gotta believeme.The other story would be that I was just hanging out with some friends and theywere there too.We can all dream,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Well Ray,Since you asked. It was a tough race. I won it with good strategy. They neversaw it coming. It was a standing start race, around the pylons once then landingto a full stop. The piet had the advantage from the start. I broke groundin less than 100 feet and made the first turn before they were wheels up.I got them at the second turn, they just got past me at the third turn and thenthe big surprise was during landing when I was able to get on the ground andstopped in the first few hundred feet of the runway. Those poor guys with alltheir speed had to roll all the way to the end of the runway. I win!!! It was a great day for the Piet community. They will probably never admit tothe loss, so please don't embarrass them by asking. I was there. you gotta believeme.The other story would be that I was just hanging out with some friends and theywere there too.We can all dream,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: So. California Air Races
Original Posted By: "GNflyer"
You can bevel the edges to gain more travel. Based on your description I'm notsure how much linear travel you need to gain, but a little beveling gains quitea bit. Be sure and bevel each piece (the stab and the rudder) to share theload so to speak.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: So. California Air Races
You can bevel the edges to gain more travel. Based on your description I'm notsure how much linear travel you need to gain, but a little beveling gains quitea bit. Be sure and bevel each piece (the stab and the rudder) to share theload so to speak.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: So. California Air Races
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]"
that is a great picture. could you send me an email with it I might keep? I wasnot able to copy and paste it. I guess it's too large. RaymondRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
that is a great picture. could you send me an email with it I might keep? I wasnot able to copy and paste it. I guess it's too large. RaymondRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: So. California Air Races
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Paul-I've seen many of the WWI type replicas with either steel tube (streamlined) or aluminum for the Jennystyle gear legs instead of wood.I have seen a few metal streamlined gear legs which were painted to look like wood grain too and boy, what a fooler.I was convinced they were wood gear legs from about 10 feet away. Can't seem to find any photos of that example butit is one other option besides the wood gear legs.Mike C.(scroll down for more examples)[cid:image001.png(at)01CEA300.0EE1CE50](photo courtesy of: http://thevintageaviator.co.nz/projects ... uild-story[cid:image002.png(at)01CEA300.0EE1CE50][cid:image003.png(at)01CEA300.0EE1CE50]http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/repli ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: So. California Air Races
Paul-I've seen many of the WWI type replicas with either steel tube (streamlined) or aluminum for the Jennystyle gear legs instead of wood.I have seen a few metal streamlined gear legs which were painted to look like wood grain too and boy, what a fooler.I was convinced they were wood gear legs from about 10 feet away. Can't seem to find any photos of that example butit is one other option besides the wood gear legs.Mike C.(scroll down for more examples)[cid:image001.png(at)01CEA300.0EE1CE50](photo courtesy of: http://thevintageaviator.co.nz/projects ... uild-story[cid:image002.png(at)01CEA300.0EE1CE50][cid:image003.png(at)01CEA300.0EE1CE50]http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/repli ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: So. California Air Races
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
GNflyerI sent it to your email. Let me know if you got it OK. It looks to be the correctsize when I sent it to you. I don't understand why it is so big when postedto this forum.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
GNflyerI sent it to your email. Let me know if you got it OK. It looks to be the correctsize when I sent it to you. I don't understand why it is so big when postedto this forum.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: So. California Air Races
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
"Pietenpols may appear larger than actual size."Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
"Pietenpols may appear larger than actual size."Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: steel " jenny style" straight axle gear
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
like the skirt security device, the seat, etc, etc... just for funHow many cables can you count?..not archive--------Mario GiacummoPhotos here: http://goo.gl/wh7M4Little Blog : http://vgmk1.blogspot.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/1234 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: steel " jenny style" straight axle gear
like the skirt security device, the seat, etc, etc... just for funHow many cables can you count?..not archive--------Mario GiacummoPhotos here: http://goo.gl/wh7M4Little Blog : http://vgmk1.blogspot.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/1234 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: steel " jenny style" straight axle gear
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Hi Paul, The gear on my plane is copied from a Thomas Morse Scout. It has a full floatingaxle which means the axle is free to move from side to side and it can rotate.It has rotated several times when a wheel runs dry on grease. I don't havewheel bearings, just brass bushings in the wheels. If you are planning onusing brakes there is an easy solution to stop the axle from rotating. Just slipa square piece of tubing over the axle and secure it to the axle. I guessyou could either weld or bolt it into place. I will attach some pics for youto look at. I would need to go to the airport and measure the tubing since Idon't remember the dimensions. I won't be able to get out there for about aweek. Please keep in mind that the attached pics don't show the two sets of crosswires. Let me know what else you need so I can help you out.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/piet ... ______Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 11:23:02 -0700 (PDT)
Hi Paul, The gear on my plane is copied from a Thomas Morse Scout. It has a full floatingaxle which means the axle is free to move from side to side and it can rotate.It has rotated several times when a wheel runs dry on grease. I don't havewheel bearings, just brass bushings in the wheels. If you are planning onusing brakes there is an easy solution to stop the axle from rotating. Just slipa square piece of tubing over the axle and secure it to the axle. I guessyou could either weld or bolt it into place. I will attach some pics for youto look at. I would need to go to the airport and measure the tubing since Idon't remember the dimensions. I won't be able to get out there for about aweek. Please keep in mind that the attached pics don't show the two sets of crosswires. Let me know what else you need so I can help you out.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/piet ... ______Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 11:23:02 -0700 (PDT)