Original Posted By: John Greenlee
You've just reduced the strength significantly.Maybe you might getting away with this byincreasing the wall thickness a lot. But.........You might as well just not have a front stick.Do you think you're going to carry folks thatwill be controlling the plane or not?Clif"Happiness is a DRY fart and a WET dream." Someone> Was hoping to lower the front seat a little, or at least angle the seat > bottom a bit. Has anyone made a bend in that tubing under the seat that > connects the forward and aft stick to each other? I believe the control > pressures would be the same. Any advise on this possible tweak?> Paul Donahue________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower cabane fittings
Pietenpol-List: Lower cabane fittings
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Hello good people,I am wanting to remake the lower cabane fittings. The plans have the an4 bolttoo close to the longerons. When a fat boy like me has to shift the wing back3 or 4 inches the cabane strut interferes with the longeron.So, the plans show .090 3/4" strap for the fittings. Now our favorite supply houseonly offers .090 strap in 1" widths. So, what to do? I wonder what I did originally. I might have bought the 1" strapand cut it down. Do I tediously cut down the straps or just make them 1"wide? Thoughts?Ezra Stiles (John Greenlee)Sent from my iPhone________________________________________________________________________________
Hello good people,I am wanting to remake the lower cabane fittings. The plans have the an4 bolttoo close to the longerons. When a fat boy like me has to shift the wing back3 or 4 inches the cabane strut interferes with the longeron.So, the plans show .090 3/4" strap for the fittings. Now our favorite supply houseonly offers .090 strap in 1" widths. So, what to do? I wonder what I did originally. I might have bought the 1" strapand cut it down. Do I tediously cut down the straps or just make them 1"wide? Thoughts?Ezra Stiles (John Greenlee)Sent from my iPhone________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Lower cabane fittings
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
John,My struts are wood, but you can see that they are beveled...also tilted back4". If you are using streamlined tubing can you also bevel the tubing? Ormaybe you don't want to remove the cabanes. Either way, I can't see how 1"wide would hurt.Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
John,My struts are wood, but you can see that they are beveled...also tilted back4". If you are using streamlined tubing can you also bevel the tubing? Ormaybe you don't want to remove the cabanes. Either way, I can't see how 1"wide would hurt.Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Lower cabane fittings
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
John, err I mean EzraI don't see how 1" wide fitting would hurt but last I heard Aircraft Sprucewill shear the strips to whatever size you want.Seems to me to be less work and lower cost to bevel the bottom of the cabaneso it could tilt back. Looking at pictures of the Last Original it lookslike the bolt is in the plans location so BHP must have beveled the bottomof his cabane strut.http://westcoastpiet.com/images/BHP%20B ... 010020.JPG Mike Cuy has a beveled bottom cabane strut too..http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Mike%20 ... Sacramento, CaWestcoastpiet.com-----Original Message-----
John, err I mean EzraI don't see how 1" wide fitting would hurt but last I heard Aircraft Sprucewill shear the strips to whatever size you want.Seems to me to be less work and lower cost to bevel the bottom of the cabaneso it could tilt back. Looking at pictures of the Last Original it lookslike the bolt is in the plans location so BHP must have beveled the bottomof his cabane strut.http://westcoastpiet.com/images/BHP%20B ... 010020.JPG Mike Cuy has a beveled bottom cabane strut too..http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Mike%20 ... Sacramento, CaWestcoastpiet.com-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Lower cabane fittings
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Lower cabane fittings
Original Posted By: John Greenlee
I don't know if I am handling the reply correctly.However, I figured there was some reason ACSS only offered the .090 sheared to1". Limitations of the shear? I ordered what they had -- 1" strap.So, is it possible to have it sheared again? Or is a larger sheet required soto shear off the edge? Or is there another way to cut down what I have otherthan on the bandsaw?Ezra StilesSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 3, 2013, at 9:15 PM, wrote:> Take .090 sheet to a machine shop and have it sheared to 3/4.> > ---- John Greenlee wrote: >> >> Hello good people,>> >> I am wanting to remake the lower cabane fittings. The plans have the an4 bolttoo close to the longerons. When a fat boy like me has to shift the wing back3 or 4 inches the cabane strut interferes with the longeron.>> >> So, the plans show .090 3/4" strap for the fittings. Now our favorite supplyhouse only offers .090 strap in 1" widths. >> >> So, what to do? I wonder what I did originally. I might have bought the 1"strap and cut it down. Do I tediously cut down the straps or just make them1" wide? Thoughts?>> >> Ezra Stiles (John Greenlee)>> Sent from my iPhone>> > > --> Lynn________________________________________________________________________________
I don't know if I am handling the reply correctly.However, I figured there was some reason ACSS only offered the .090 sheared to1". Limitations of the shear? I ordered what they had -- 1" strap.So, is it possible to have it sheared again? Or is a larger sheet required soto shear off the edge? Or is there another way to cut down what I have otherthan on the bandsaw?Ezra StilesSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 3, 2013, at 9:15 PM, wrote:> Take .090 sheet to a machine shop and have it sheared to 3/4.> > ---- John Greenlee wrote: >> >> Hello good people,>> >> I am wanting to remake the lower cabane fittings. The plans have the an4 bolttoo close to the longerons. When a fat boy like me has to shift the wing back3 or 4 inches the cabane strut interferes with the longeron.>> >> So, the plans show .090 3/4" strap for the fittings. Now our favorite supplyhouse only offers .090 strap in 1" widths. >> >> So, what to do? I wonder what I did originally. I might have bought the 1"strap and cut it down. Do I tediously cut down the straps or just make them1" wide? Thoughts?>> >> Ezra Stiles (John Greenlee)>> Sent from my iPhone>> > > --> Lynn________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Lower cabane fittings
Original Posted By: danhelsper(at)aol.com
I don't know if I am handling the reply correctly.However, I figured there was some reason ACSS only offered the .090 sheared to1". Limitations of the shear? I ordered what they had -- 1" strap.So, is it possible to have it sheared again? Or is a larger sheet required soto shear off the edge? Or is there another way to cut down what I have otherthan on the bandsaw?Ezra StilesSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 3, 2013, at 9:15 PM, wrote:> Take .090 sheet to a machine shop and have it sheared to 3/4.> > ---- John Greenlee wrote: >> >> Hello good people,>> >> I am wanting to remake the lower cabane fittings. The plans have the an4 bolttoo close to the longerons. When a fat boy like me has to shift the wing back3 or 4 inches the cabane strut interferes with the longeron.>> >> So, the plans show .090 3/4" strap for the fittings. Now our favorite supplyhouse only offers .090 strap in 1" widths. >> >> So, what to do? I wonder what I did originally. I might have bought the 1"strap and cut it down. Do I tediously cut down the straps or just make them1" wide? Thoughts?>> >> Ezra Stiles (John Greenlee)>> Sent from my iPhone>> > > --> Lynn________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lower cabane fittings
I don't know if I am handling the reply correctly.However, I figured there was some reason ACSS only offered the .090 sheared to1". Limitations of the shear? I ordered what they had -- 1" strap.So, is it possible to have it sheared again? Or is a larger sheet required soto shear off the edge? Or is there another way to cut down what I have otherthan on the bandsaw?Ezra StilesSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 3, 2013, at 9:15 PM, wrote:> Take .090 sheet to a machine shop and have it sheared to 3/4.> > ---- John Greenlee wrote: >> >> Hello good people,>> >> I am wanting to remake the lower cabane fittings. The plans have the an4 bolttoo close to the longerons. When a fat boy like me has to shift the wing back3 or 4 inches the cabane strut interferes with the longeron.>> >> So, the plans show .090 3/4" strap for the fittings. Now our favorite supplyhouse only offers .090 strap in 1" widths. >> >> So, what to do? I wonder what I did originally. I might have bought the 1"strap and cut it down. Do I tediously cut down the straps or just make them1" wide? Thoughts?>> >> Ezra Stiles (John Greenlee)>> Sent from my iPhone>> > > --> Lynn________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lower cabane fittings
Original Posted By: John Greenlee
Dear Ezra,Your question/ proposed alteration and deviation from the approved Orrin Hoopman/Bernard Pietenpol plans, really got me to thinking. After performing a complete and exhaustive (and time-consuming) search of the "lost papers" of the esteemed Bernard Pietenpol, I have unearthed, condensed, and summarized this advise, that was given to some past unsound and foolhardy proposals/deviations:... "lose weight,... build to plans". There you have it., on good authority.Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
Dear Ezra,Your question/ proposed alteration and deviation from the approved Orrin Hoopman/Bernard Pietenpol plans, really got me to thinking. After performing a complete and exhaustive (and time-consuming) search of the "lost papers" of the esteemed Bernard Pietenpol, I have unearthed, condensed, and summarized this advise, that was given to some past unsound and foolhardy proposals/deviations:... "lose weight,... build to plans". There you have it., on good authority.Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----