Original Posted By: "aviken"
And the supplementary plans for the long fuselage show 7 1/8" to add to the confusion.--------Curt MerdanFlower Mound, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Willys Jeep Pietenpol
Pietenpol-List: Willys Jeep Pietenpol
Pietenpol-List: Re: Willys Jeep Pietenpol
Original Posted By: "aviken"
UP-Date on the Jeep powered pietenpol. Late this afternoon I finally got theengine bolted down and hooked up. There are a few temporary fittings and such,but I think I had it close to the final stage to do a power test. At full power I was able to see 225 lbs on the official Fish scales. I may be able to tune a little better performance with another carburetor, I am not sure there is a lot of extra left... I will try to add a link to a youtube video of the run .http://youtu.be/BLTiPoNT5oMRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Willys Jeep Pietenpol
UP-Date on the Jeep powered pietenpol. Late this afternoon I finally got theengine bolted down and hooked up. There are a few temporary fittings and such,but I think I had it close to the final stage to do a power test. At full power I was able to see 225 lbs on the official Fish scales. I may be able to tune a little better performance with another carburetor, I am not sure there is a lot of extra left... I will try to add a link to a youtube video of the run .http://youtu.be/BLTiPoNT5oMRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Willys Jeep Pietenpol
Pietenpol-List: Re: Willys Jeep Pietenpol
Original Posted By: "aviken"
Sorry the Link doesn't seem to work... just go to youtube and type in Kennycrider then scroll down the list to willys jeep power test.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Willys Jeep Pietenpol
Sorry the Link doesn't seem to work... just go to youtube and type in Kennycrider then scroll down the list to willys jeep power test.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Willys Jeep Pietenpol
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
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RE: Pietenpol-List: Willys Jeep Pietenpol
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
...or is it the prop?-----Original Message-----
...or is it the prop?-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: rivets
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
The link worked well! Sure sounds good! Little bit of a miss but at this point?Not too shabby! Keep up the good work!Sent from my iPhone> On Nov 19, 2014, at 7:27 PM, "aviken" wrote:> > > Sorry the Link doesn't seem to work... just go to youtube and type in Kennycrider then scroll down the list to willys jeep power test.> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 147#434147> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: rivets
The link worked well! Sure sounds good! Little bit of a miss but at this point?Not too shabby! Keep up the good work!Sent from my iPhone> On Nov 19, 2014, at 7:27 PM, "aviken" wrote:> > > Sorry the Link doesn't seem to work... just go to youtube and type in Kennycrider then scroll down the list to willys jeep power test.> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 147#434147> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: rivets
Original Posted By: "Clif Dawson"
I'll stand up and take the mike now. I am a hardware store pop rivet junkie andI have not been able to break the habit. I admit it. It's just too easy andtoo cheap. I use them for everything, but when it came time to do some metalworkon the Air Camper, I balked. I was making repairs to various metal partsafter the nose-over incident and I knew I couldn't use hardware store pop rivetsor I would be scorned and sneered at by every pilot, builder, and tech counselorwho looked at Scout. It so happened that in the course of Corky's comingsand goings (Corky built Scout and I bought the airplane from him), he decidedthat he would not be needing a lot of his shop tools and I became the proudowner of a rivet "gun", bucking bar, a couple of rivet sets, a rivet cutter,and various ziplock bags and cans of assorted rivets. I sorted out all therivets to see what I had, inventoried everything, and put it all in a rivetingstuff bin in the hangar. I was terrified of trying to set a rivet, much lesslong strings of hundreds of them all down and around the metal parts of an aircraft.It didn't matter that Scout is a wood and fabric airplane ;o) My rationalefor not trying rivets was that I didn't own a decent air compressor. Sothat was that, for a time.One day a guy that I worked with got himself a new air compressor and he gave mehis old one. It is one of the old fashioned belt-drive reciprocating compressorsthat goes chunka-chunka-chunka instead of brrrrrr like the high-speed onesdo. It takes its time, but gets there. It has a receiver tank on wheels,a handle to tote it with, a pressure switch, and power cord. I've been threateningto fabricate a belt guard for it so I don't get a shirt sleeve (or worse)tangled up in it, but I need to learn how to rivet first ;o) Anyway, I completelydismantled the contraption, went through it all, repainted the metal parts,got a new set of lawnmower wheels for it, and all of a sudden I had whatit took to be able to spray paint and set rivets.Setting solid rivets is easier than you think, it's far more durable and "aircraft-y"than hardware store pop rivets, and it makes a really cool sound in yourhangar when you set rivets. Mind you, I have not set more than a couple ofdozen solid rivets in my entire life, but I am finding that there is a great dealof satisfaction in seeing them turn out right. I can pull cheap pop rivetsall day long doing things like repairing gutters or making simple things outof sheet metal and tin snips, but setting solid rivets is different. There area number of very useful resources out there for anyone wanting to learn howto do it. The EAA's "Hints for Homebuilders" videos are a good start.I have also pulled aircraft-grade Cherry and Avex rivets and I have a partially-completedZenith 601XL in my hangar (along with the wing spar mod kit to makeit a -B model). I have a CD with a series of videos on how to install the sparmods, and it involves drilling out possibly thousands of pulled and solidrivets and then installing thousands more of them to accomplish the spar modifications.For that job, I'll get a pneumatic puller and someone to help me handlethe wing skins and the long chore of drilling out and setting new rivets.Then I'll probably go insane and my wife will call the guys in the white coatsto come and take me to a rehabilitation place where I can once again spendmy days working with wood and fabric and soothe my nerves.Did I mention that I don't know how to weld? Actually, I know how to JB Weld,and I use it for everything that I can pop rivet together... ;o)--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I'll stand up and take the mike now. I am a hardware store pop rivet junkie andI have not been able to break the habit. I admit it. It's just too easy andtoo cheap. I use them for everything, but when it came time to do some metalworkon the Air Camper, I balked. I was making repairs to various metal partsafter the nose-over incident and I knew I couldn't use hardware store pop rivetsor I would be scorned and sneered at by every pilot, builder, and tech counselorwho looked at Scout. It so happened that in the course of Corky's comingsand goings (Corky built Scout and I bought the airplane from him), he decidedthat he would not be needing a lot of his shop tools and I became the proudowner of a rivet "gun", bucking bar, a couple of rivet sets, a rivet cutter,and various ziplock bags and cans of assorted rivets. I sorted out all therivets to see what I had, inventoried everything, and put it all in a rivetingstuff bin in the hangar. I was terrified of trying to set a rivet, much lesslong strings of hundreds of them all down and around the metal parts of an aircraft.It didn't matter that Scout is a wood and fabric airplane ;o) My rationalefor not trying rivets was that I didn't own a decent air compressor. Sothat was that, for a time.One day a guy that I worked with got himself a new air compressor and he gave mehis old one. It is one of the old fashioned belt-drive reciprocating compressorsthat goes chunka-chunka-chunka instead of brrrrrr like the high-speed onesdo. It takes its time, but gets there. It has a receiver tank on wheels,a handle to tote it with, a pressure switch, and power cord. I've been threateningto fabricate a belt guard for it so I don't get a shirt sleeve (or worse)tangled up in it, but I need to learn how to rivet first ;o) Anyway, I completelydismantled the contraption, went through it all, repainted the metal parts,got a new set of lawnmower wheels for it, and all of a sudden I had whatit took to be able to spray paint and set rivets.Setting solid rivets is easier than you think, it's far more durable and "aircraft-y"than hardware store pop rivets, and it makes a really cool sound in yourhangar when you set rivets. Mind you, I have not set more than a couple ofdozen solid rivets in my entire life, but I am finding that there is a great dealof satisfaction in seeing them turn out right. I can pull cheap pop rivetsall day long doing things like repairing gutters or making simple things outof sheet metal and tin snips, but setting solid rivets is different. There area number of very useful resources out there for anyone wanting to learn howto do it. The EAA's "Hints for Homebuilders" videos are a good start.I have also pulled aircraft-grade Cherry and Avex rivets and I have a partially-completedZenith 601XL in my hangar (along with the wing spar mod kit to makeit a -B model). I have a CD with a series of videos on how to install the sparmods, and it involves drilling out possibly thousands of pulled and solidrivets and then installing thousands more of them to accomplish the spar modifications.For that job, I'll get a pneumatic puller and someone to help me handlethe wing skins and the long chore of drilling out and setting new rivets.Then I'll probably go insane and my wife will call the guys in the white coatsto come and take me to a rehabilitation place where I can once again spendmy days working with wood and fabric and soothe my nerves.Did I mention that I don't know how to weld? Actually, I know how to JB Weld,and I use it for everything that I can pop rivet together... ;o)--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: New home
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Really! Did you have a plane there or just visiting?Clif Delta airpark! Last time I was there was 1973. I didn't know it was still there. Bob________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 03:08:36 -0800
Really! Did you have a plane there or just visiting?Clif Delta airpark! Last time I was there was 1973. I didn't know it was still there. Bob________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 03:08:36 -0800
RE: Pietenpol-List: Willys Jeep Pietenpol
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Sure sounds nice, Kenny!Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
Sure sounds nice, Kenny!Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Willys Jeep Pietenpol
Original Posted By: "aviken"
John Greenlee-----SO cool that you are back working on your Pietenpol. I can't wait to see you fly her in one day at Brodhead!In reading all the posts about riveting, I had no idea you could do it in such fancy ways. With the very simple riveting lines requiredon a plane like the Pietenpol I only used hand tools and at minimal cost. I was able to fabricate everything, including the cooling eyebrows for myengine just by using these tools, a vise, some rivets, and a few drill bits. Sure worked nicely and very satisfying work.Mike C.[cid:image001.jpg(at)01D004DD.5CE1F4A0]________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Willys Jeep Pietenpol
John Greenlee-----SO cool that you are back working on your Pietenpol. I can't wait to see you fly her in one day at Brodhead!In reading all the posts about riveting, I had no idea you could do it in such fancy ways. With the very simple riveting lines requiredon a plane like the Pietenpol I only used hand tools and at minimal cost. I was able to fabricate everything, including the cooling eyebrows for myengine just by using these tools, a vise, some rivets, and a few drill bits. Sure worked nicely and very satisfying work.Mike C.[cid:image001.jpg(at)01D004DD.5CE1F4A0]________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Willys Jeep Pietenpol
Pietenpol-List: Re: Willys Jeep Pietenpol
Original Posted By: "womenfly2"
I do feel like a fool sometimes when I try to post a picture and it doesn't work...No need for instructions, seems I am too old and dumb to comprehend them. If this actually works it will be some photos of my jeep conversion.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Willys Jeep Pietenpol
I do feel like a fool sometimes when I try to post a picture and it doesn't work...No need for instructions, seems I am too old and dumb to comprehend them. If this actually works it will be some photos of my jeep conversion.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Willys Jeep Pietenpol
Original Posted By: "Boatright, Jeffrey"
What Kenny sent me via Email. I really think his efforts are worth sharing here.Enjoy,WF2> Hi I thought it might be easier just to send you some pictures here as I can'tseem to have much luck on the list. I'm glad to see some interest in myproject, I have been close several times just to give up and buy me a 65 cont.and forget the jeep.> > I suppose I will continue and see it through to the end now. If it doesn't performwell I will change it later.--------Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/4_10 ... __________
What Kenny sent me via Email. I really think his efforts are worth sharing here.Enjoy,WF2> Hi I thought it might be easier just to send you some pictures here as I can'tseem to have much luck on the list. I'm glad to see some interest in myproject, I have been close several times just to give up and buy me a 65 cont.and forget the jeep.> > I suppose I will continue and see it through to the end now. If it doesn't performwell I will change it later.--------Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/4_10 ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Willys Jeep Pietenpol
Original Posted By: Matt Dralle
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Pietenpol-List: Re: rivets
Original Posted By: Fastnaught John
Mike P.- have you been peeking inside my hangar? ;o)Actually, I repainted the tank using green rebar epoxy primer, but it is a light-ishgreen.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/comp ... __________
Mike P.- have you been peeking inside my hangar? ;o)Actually, I repainted the tank using green rebar epoxy primer, but it is a light-ishgreen.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/comp ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Willys Jeep Pietenpol
Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Willys Jeep Pietenpol
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Willys Jeep Pietenpol