Original Posted By: "edwoerle"
Has anyone else ever considered using a Honda Goldwing radiator on a Ford powerdpiet? They look good, The price is right, but I don't know if they wouldwork. Any Ideas?Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new oldbie?
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new oldbie?
Original Posted By: "aviken"
Long time ago I fell in love with the Sky Scout. Being an antique buff I of coursewent for the Model A powered plane. Ordered Orin Hoopman's plans and life changed mydirection. Never got built.Now I'm older, not necessarily wiser, and have a bit of time on my hands to play, when I'm not fiddling with my '65 Cessna T-41A or '60 Piper Apache 160.The plans have been recently dusted off. and I'm rarin' to go! Jigged up the tail surfaces. and am currently cutting whatever wood I have in my shop to build up some 'proof-of-concept' pieces. I'll cover them and take them to the airport to use as testing items (I'm a DME).Anyhow. I'll probably be making a pest of myself as this project goes slowly together. Been reading the forum and already gained much useful info. I want to thank youin advance for your help and understanding.Ed--------Just east of GracelandRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new oldbie?
Long time ago I fell in love with the Sky Scout. Being an antique buff I of coursewent for the Model A powered plane. Ordered Orin Hoopman's plans and life changed mydirection. Never got built.Now I'm older, not necessarily wiser, and have a bit of time on my hands to play, when I'm not fiddling with my '65 Cessna T-41A or '60 Piper Apache 160.The plans have been recently dusted off. and I'm rarin' to go! Jigged up the tail surfaces. and am currently cutting whatever wood I have in my shop to build up some 'proof-of-concept' pieces. I'll cover them and take them to the airport to use as testing items (I'm a DME).Anyhow. I'll probably be making a pest of myself as this project goes slowly together. Been reading the forum and already gained much useful info. I want to thank youin advance for your help and understanding.Ed--------Just east of GracelandRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new oldbie?
Original Posted By: Fastnaught John
Greetings , How exciteing it is to start your project... Keep us up-dated often.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new oldbie?
Original Posted By: "edwoerle"
Hi Ed,Are you in the Fla area? I am a builder at Sun n Fun in the wood shop, we can possibly help you out.Dick N----- Original Message -----
Hi Ed,Are you in the Fla area? I am a builder at Sun n Fun in the wood shop, we can possibly help you out.Dick N----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new oldbie?
Original Posted By:> ----- Original Message ----- "edwoerle"
Ed,I'm building a Sky Scout with an A-65. Just today I got the wings all rigged to the fuselage and have had the tail feathers all rigged a few months ago. Now I'm running the cables for the aileron controls. After that I will start the covering process with the Stewart's System. I hope to have her flying this coming summer, if all goes according to plans. But all the little details really slow down the whole project.I've been working on it for two years now, but it seems longer! I wish I had gone with the Model A, but the A-65 was at hand and very cheap. I have followed the plans very closely, except for a few extra braces in places! I have not been too concerned about weight, since it is so close the the AirCamper but only carries one person. It should perform quite well.I will attach a few pictures.Welcome aboard,Ray Krause,Colusa, CAFlying a Sonex Waiex, N51YX, Jabiru 3300... Fast and fun, now I need slow and low!Coming out of the workshop for first time.Looking at the sky!Cowling and metal work about done.TrSent from my iPad> On Nov 21, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Dick N wrote:> > > Hi Ed,> Are you in the Fla area? I am a builder at Sun n Fun in the wood shop, we can possibly help you out.> Dick N
Ed,I'm building a Sky Scout with an A-65. Just today I got the wings all rigged to the fuselage and have had the tail feathers all rigged a few months ago. Now I'm running the cables for the aileron controls. After that I will start the covering process with the Stewart's System. I hope to have her flying this coming summer, if all goes according to plans. But all the little details really slow down the whole project.I've been working on it for two years now, but it seems longer! I wish I had gone with the Model A, but the A-65 was at hand and very cheap. I have followed the plans very closely, except for a few extra braces in places! I have not been too concerned about weight, since it is so close the the AirCamper but only carries one person. It should perform quite well.I will attach a few pictures.Welcome aboard,Ray Krause,Colusa, CAFlying a Sonex Waiex, N51YX, Jabiru 3300... Fast and fun, now I need slow and low!Coming out of the workshop for first time.Looking at the sky!Cowling and metal work about done.TrSent from my iPad> On Nov 21, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Dick N wrote:> > > Hi Ed,> Are you in the Fla area? I am a builder at Sun n Fun in the wood shop, we can possibly help you out.> Dick N
Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new oldbie?
Original Posted By: "edwoerle"
Ken;I have not heard of it being done, but just quickly looking at the Goldwing specs(among the various models), let's say they are 108HP and they have two radiators,left and right. That would be about 54HP that each radiator is cooling.Also no idea how efficient they are, but on the quick-look basis, you mighthave a match. What radiator are you using in the test-run videos?--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new oldbie?
Ken;I have not heard of it being done, but just quickly looking at the Goldwing specs(among the various models), let's say they are 108HP and they have two radiators,left and right. That would be about 54HP that each radiator is cooling.Also no idea how efficient they are, but on the quick-look basis, you mighthave a match. What radiator are you using in the test-run videos?--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new oldbie?
Re: Pietenpol-List: Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new oldbie?
Original Posted By: Jack
I'm a Designated Mechanic Examiner in Memphis, Tennessee. Retired from FedEx and Delta. Glad to hear anyone say they've built a Sonex, I first met JohnMonnett in Chicago about 1972 when he'd jut built the first Sonerai II.He was teaching school and designing airplanes, I was working for Delta AirLines and writing for Private Pilot magazine. Always liked his airplanes. And,he's a great guy to boot!--------Just east of GracelandRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new oldbie?
I'm a Designated Mechanic Examiner in Memphis, Tennessee. Retired from FedEx and Delta. Glad to hear anyone say they've built a Sonex, I first met JohnMonnett in Chicago about 1972 when he'd jut built the first Sonerai II.He was teaching school and designing airplanes, I was working for Delta AirLines and writing for Private Pilot magazine. Always liked his airplanes. And,he's a great guy to boot!--------Just east of GracelandRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new oldbie?
Original Posted By:>> ----- Original Message ----- "edwoerle"
Ray very nice! Any details or pictures of your cowling would be helpful, it looksgreat. Is that a "pan" for the nose?Thank you for sharing!Sent from my iPadJack Textor> On Nov 21, 2014, at 9:31 PM, Ray Krause wrote:> > Ed,> > I'm building a Sky Scout with an A-65. Just today I got the wings all riggedto the fuselage and have had the tail feathers all rigged a few months ago. NowI'm running the cables for the aileron controls. After that I will start thecovering process with the Stewart's System. I hope to have her flying this comingsummer, if all goes according to plans. But all the little details reallyslow down the whole project.> > I've been working on it for two years now, but it seems longer! I wish I hadgone with the Model A, but the A-65 was at hand and very cheap. I have followedthe plans very closely, except for a few extra braces in places! I have notbeen too concerned about weight, since it is so close the the AirCamper but onlycarries one person. It should perform quite well.> > I will attach a few pictures.> > Welcome aboard,> > Ray Krause,> Colusa, CA> Flying a Sonex Waiex, N51YX, Jabiru 3300... Fast and fun, now I need slow andlow!> > Coming out of the workshop for first time.> > > > > Looking at the sky!> > > Cowling and metal work about done.> Tr> > > > Sent from my iPad> >> On Nov 21, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Dick N wrote:>> >> >> Hi Ed,>> Are you in the Fla area? I am a builder at Sun n Fun in the wood shop, we canpossibly help you out.>> Dick N
Ray very nice! Any details or pictures of your cowling would be helpful, it looksgreat. Is that a "pan" for the nose?Thank you for sharing!Sent from my iPadJack Textor> On Nov 21, 2014, at 9:31 PM, Ray Krause wrote:> > Ed,> > I'm building a Sky Scout with an A-65. Just today I got the wings all riggedto the fuselage and have had the tail feathers all rigged a few months ago. NowI'm running the cables for the aileron controls. After that I will start thecovering process with the Stewart's System. I hope to have her flying this comingsummer, if all goes according to plans. But all the little details reallyslow down the whole project.> > I've been working on it for two years now, but it seems longer! I wish I hadgone with the Model A, but the A-65 was at hand and very cheap. I have followedthe plans very closely, except for a few extra braces in places! I have notbeen too concerned about weight, since it is so close the the AirCamper but onlycarries one person. It should perform quite well.> > I will attach a few pictures.> > Welcome aboard,> > Ray Krause,> Colusa, CA> Flying a Sonex Waiex, N51YX, Jabiru 3300... Fast and fun, now I need slow andlow!> > Coming out of the workshop for first time.> > > > > Looking at the sky!> > > Cowling and metal work about done.> Tr> > > > Sent from my iPad> >> On Nov 21, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Dick N wrote:>> >> >> Hi Ed,>> Are you in the Fla area? I am a builder at Sun n Fun in the wood shop, we canpossibly help you out.>> Dick N
Re: Pietenpol-List: Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new oldbie?
Original Posted By:>>> ----- Original Message ----- "edwoerle"
Jack,Yes, that's an aluminum frying pan that just happened to work out. I think itwas $12.00! The cowling just worked out pretty well and is very solidly attachedto the fuselage with only four AN-3 bolts and maybe six .5" screws. I hopeit stays there!I am following the plans as closely as possible and am running the aileron "idlecable" above the upper wing today. I have some reservations about the cableand four cable guides being about 1/2" above the upper wing surface all alongthe rear spar from mid aileron to mid aileron. It could certainly disrupt thesmooth flow of air over the wing foil. But I'm used to worrying about such thingson shorter, sleeker wings (ala the Waiex). Bernard only used this methodon the SkyScout and put the upper aileron cable within the wing on the AirCamper.I see many AirCamper builders and the J-3 even add an aero shaped boot overthis cable where exits the wing to the aileron bell crank. But I guess all otherSkyScouts fly with it on top of the wing! What do you guys think?Thanks,RaySkyScout in progressSent from my iPad> On Nov 22, 2014, at 3:51 AM, Jack wrote:> > > Ray very nice! Any details or pictures of your cowling would be helpful, itlooks great. Is that a "pan" for the nose?> Thank you for sharing!> > Sent from my iPad> Jack Textor> >> On Nov 21, 2014, at 9:31 PM, Ray Krause wrote:>> >> Ed,>> >> I'm building a Sky Scout with an A-65. Just today I got the wings all riggedto the fuselage and have had the tail feathers all rigged a few months ago. NowI'm running the cables for the aileron controls. After that I will start thecovering process with the Stewart's System. I hope to have her flying this comingsummer, if all goes according to plans. But all the little details reallyslow down the whole project.>> >> I've been working on it for two years now, but it seems longer! I wish I hadgone with the Model A, but the A-65 was at hand and very cheap. I have followedthe plans very closely, except for a few extra braces in places! I have notbeen too concerned about weight, since it is so close the the AirCamper but onlycarries one person. It should perform quite well.>> >> I will attach a few pictures.>> >> Welcome aboard,>> >> Ray Krause,>> Colusa, CA>> Flying a Sonex Waiex, N51YX, Jabiru 3300... Fast and fun, now I need slow andlow!>> >> Coming out of the workshop for first time.>> >> >> >> >> Looking at the sky!>> >> >> Cowling and metal work about done.>> Tr>> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad>> >>> On Nov 21, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Dick N wrote:>>> >>> >>> Hi Ed,>>> Are you in the Fla area? I am a builder at Sun n Fun in the wood shop, wecan possibly help you out.>>> Dick N
Jack,Yes, that's an aluminum frying pan that just happened to work out. I think itwas $12.00! The cowling just worked out pretty well and is very solidly attachedto the fuselage with only four AN-3 bolts and maybe six .5" screws. I hopeit stays there!I am following the plans as closely as possible and am running the aileron "idlecable" above the upper wing today. I have some reservations about the cableand four cable guides being about 1/2" above the upper wing surface all alongthe rear spar from mid aileron to mid aileron. It could certainly disrupt thesmooth flow of air over the wing foil. But I'm used to worrying about such thingson shorter, sleeker wings (ala the Waiex). Bernard only used this methodon the SkyScout and put the upper aileron cable within the wing on the AirCamper.I see many AirCamper builders and the J-3 even add an aero shaped boot overthis cable where exits the wing to the aileron bell crank. But I guess all otherSkyScouts fly with it on top of the wing! What do you guys think?Thanks,RaySkyScout in progressSent from my iPad> On Nov 22, 2014, at 3:51 AM, Jack wrote:> > > Ray very nice! Any details or pictures of your cowling would be helpful, itlooks great. Is that a "pan" for the nose?> Thank you for sharing!> > Sent from my iPad> Jack Textor> >> On Nov 21, 2014, at 9:31 PM, Ray Krause wrote:>> >> Ed,>> >> I'm building a Sky Scout with an A-65. Just today I got the wings all riggedto the fuselage and have had the tail feathers all rigged a few months ago. NowI'm running the cables for the aileron controls. After that I will start thecovering process with the Stewart's System. I hope to have her flying this comingsummer, if all goes according to plans. But all the little details reallyslow down the whole project.>> >> I've been working on it for two years now, but it seems longer! I wish I hadgone with the Model A, but the A-65 was at hand and very cheap. I have followedthe plans very closely, except for a few extra braces in places! I have notbeen too concerned about weight, since it is so close the the AirCamper but onlycarries one person. It should perform quite well.>> >> I will attach a few pictures.>> >> Welcome aboard,>> >> Ray Krause,>> Colusa, CA>> Flying a Sonex Waiex, N51YX, Jabiru 3300... Fast and fun, now I need slow andlow!>> >> Coming out of the workshop for first time.>> >> >> >> >> Looking at the sky!>> >> >> Cowling and metal work about done.>> Tr>> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad>> >>> On Nov 21, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Dick N wrote:>>> >>> >>> Hi Ed,>>> Are you in the Fla area? I am a builder at Sun n Fun in the wood shop, wecan possibly help you out.>>> Dick N
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Original Posted By:>>> ----- Original Message ----- "edwoerle"
Jack,Here are a few more pictures of the cowling.Thanks,RaySent from my iPad> On Nov 22, 2014, at 3:51 AM, Jack wrote:> > > Ray very nice! Any details or pictures of your cowling would be helpful, it looks great. Is that a "pan" for the nose?> Thank you for sharing!> > Sent from my iPad> Jack Textor> >> On Nov 21, 2014, at 9:31 PM, Ray Krause wrote:>> >> Ed,>> >> I'm building a Sky Scout with an A-65. Just today I got the wings all rigged to the fuselage and have had the tail feathers all rigged a few months ago. Now I'm running the cables for the aileron controls. After that I will start the covering process with the Stewart's System. I hope to have her flying this coming summer, if all goes according to plans. But all the little details really slow down the whole project.>> >> I've been working on it for two years now, but it seems longer! I wish I had gone with the Model A, but the A-65 was at hand and very cheap. I have followed the plans very closely, except for a few extra braces in places! I have not been too concerned about weight, since it is so close the the AirCamper but only carries one person. It should perform quite well.>> >> I will attach a few pictures.>> >> Welcome aboard,>> >> Ray Krause,>> Colusa, CA>> Flying a Sonex Waiex, N51YX, Jabiru 3300... Fast and fun, now I need slow and low!>> >> Coming out of the workshop for first time.>> >> >> >> >> Looking at the sky!>> >> >> Cowling and metal work about done.>> Tr>> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad>> >>> On Nov 21, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Dick N wrote:>>> >>> >>> Hi Ed,>>> Are you in the Fla area? I am a builder at Sun n Fun in the wood shop, we can possibly help you out.>>> Dick N
Jack,Here are a few more pictures of the cowling.Thanks,RaySent from my iPad> On Nov 22, 2014, at 3:51 AM, Jack wrote:> > > Ray very nice! Any details or pictures of your cowling would be helpful, it looks great. Is that a "pan" for the nose?> Thank you for sharing!> > Sent from my iPad> Jack Textor> >> On Nov 21, 2014, at 9:31 PM, Ray Krause wrote:>> >> Ed,>> >> I'm building a Sky Scout with an A-65. Just today I got the wings all rigged to the fuselage and have had the tail feathers all rigged a few months ago. Now I'm running the cables for the aileron controls. After that I will start the covering process with the Stewart's System. I hope to have her flying this coming summer, if all goes according to plans. But all the little details really slow down the whole project.>> >> I've been working on it for two years now, but it seems longer! I wish I had gone with the Model A, but the A-65 was at hand and very cheap. I have followed the plans very closely, except for a few extra braces in places! I have not been too concerned about weight, since it is so close the the AirCamper but only carries one person. It should perform quite well.>> >> I will attach a few pictures.>> >> Welcome aboard,>> >> Ray Krause,>> Colusa, CA>> Flying a Sonex Waiex, N51YX, Jabiru 3300... Fast and fun, now I need slow and low!>> >> Coming out of the workshop for first time.>> >> >> >> >> Looking at the sky!>> >> >> Cowling and metal work about done.>> Tr>> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad>> >>> On Nov 21, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Dick N wrote:>>> >>> >>> Hi Ed,>>> Are you in the Fla area? I am a builder at Sun n Fun in the wood shop, we can possibly help you out.>>> Dick N
Re: Pietenpol-List: Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new oldbie?
Original Posted By:>>>> ----- Original Message ----- "edwoerle"
Thanks Ray, very helpful!Sent from my iPadJack Textor> On Nov 23, 2014, at 10:18 PM, Ray Krause wrote:> > Jack,> > Here are a few more pictures of the cowling.> > Thanks,> > Ray> > > > > > > Sent from my iPad> >> On Nov 22, 2014, at 3:51 AM, Jack wrote:>> >> >> Ray very nice! Any details or pictures of your cowling would be helpful, itlooks great. Is that a "pan" for the nose?>> Thank you for sharing!>> >> Sent from my iPad>> Jack Textor>> >>> On Nov 21, 2014, at 9:31 PM, Ray Krause wrote:>>> >>> Ed,>>> >>> I'm building a Sky Scout with an A-65. Just today I got the wings all riggedto the fuselage and have had the tail feathers all rigged a few months ago.Now I'm running the cables for the aileron controls. After that I will start thecovering process with the Stewart's System. I hope to have her flying thiscoming summer, if all goes according to plans. But all the little details reallyslow down the whole project.>>> >>> I've been working on it for two years now, but it seems longer! I wish I hadgone with the Model A, but the A-65 was at hand and very cheap. I have followedthe plans very closely, except for a few extra braces in places! I have notbeen too concerned about weight, since it is so close the the AirCamper butonly carries one person. It should perform quite well.>>> >>> I will attach a few pictures.>>> >>> Welcome aboard,>>> >>> Ray Krause,>>> Colusa, CA>>> Flying a Sonex Waiex, N51YX, Jabiru 3300... Fast and fun, now I need slow andlow!>>> >>> Coming out of the workshop for first time.>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Looking at the sky!>>> >>> >>> Cowling and metal work about done.>>> Tr>>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad>>> >>>> On Nov 21, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Dick N wrote:>>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Ed,>>>> Are you in the Fla area? I am a builder at Sun n Fun in the wood shop, wecan possibly help you out.>>>> Dick N
Thanks Ray, very helpful!Sent from my iPadJack Textor> On Nov 23, 2014, at 10:18 PM, Ray Krause wrote:> > Jack,> > Here are a few more pictures of the cowling.> > Thanks,> > Ray> > > > > > > Sent from my iPad> >> On Nov 22, 2014, at 3:51 AM, Jack wrote:>> >> >> Ray very nice! Any details or pictures of your cowling would be helpful, itlooks great. Is that a "pan" for the nose?>> Thank you for sharing!>> >> Sent from my iPad>> Jack Textor>> >>> On Nov 21, 2014, at 9:31 PM, Ray Krause wrote:>>> >>> Ed,>>> >>> I'm building a Sky Scout with an A-65. Just today I got the wings all riggedto the fuselage and have had the tail feathers all rigged a few months ago.Now I'm running the cables for the aileron controls. After that I will start thecovering process with the Stewart's System. I hope to have her flying thiscoming summer, if all goes according to plans. But all the little details reallyslow down the whole project.>>> >>> I've been working on it for two years now, but it seems longer! I wish I hadgone with the Model A, but the A-65 was at hand and very cheap. I have followedthe plans very closely, except for a few extra braces in places! I have notbeen too concerned about weight, since it is so close the the AirCamper butonly carries one person. It should perform quite well.>>> >>> I will attach a few pictures.>>> >>> Welcome aboard,>>> >>> Ray Krause,>>> Colusa, CA>>> Flying a Sonex Waiex, N51YX, Jabiru 3300... Fast and fun, now I need slow andlow!>>> >>> Coming out of the workshop for first time.>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Looking at the sky!>>> >>> >>> Cowling and metal work about done.>>> Tr>>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad>>> >>>> On Nov 21, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Dick N wrote:>>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Ed,>>>> Are you in the Fla area? I am a builder at Sun n Fun in the wood shop, wecan possibly help you out.>>>> Dick N
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