Original Posted By: "tkreiner"
Because he was an ignorant busybody? Around here, if it comes to their attention, the police insist that any off-field incident (such as a safe, off-field landing) involving an aircraft be reported to the FAA. We once had a local sheriff crash a family reunion party, where a family member was hopping his family rides from their pasture, because they weren't using an 'official' airport.Kip GardnerOn Dec 8, 2014, at 7:55 AM, PatrickW wrote:>>>> the FAA was notified by the mechanic>>> Why would the mechanic do that...?>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gooseneck Die
Pietenpol-List: Gooseneck Die
Re: Pietenpol-List: Gooseneck Die
Original Posted By: Jim Markle
Tom I searched the archives for a picture and couldn't find one. Can you shareone? Are they stainless? Thanks!Sent from my iPadJack Textor> On Dec 8, 2014, at 7:43 AM, "tkreiner" wrote:> > > There was a thread a few months ago regarding Gooseneck bending dies which Ithought would be a great addition to my own shop. So, in my travels, I came acrossa rather long Gooseneck die, and I picked it up for a rather pricey sum.> > If you want a short gooseneck, I'm cutting the long piece into a series of shortpieces, so you can bend the U shaped fittings - along with any other fittings- without having to jury rig something special. > > The cost per linear inch of the material is $7.50, and it will fit into a $5.00shipping box.> > I'm not trying to make $$ here, just help out anyone wanting such a die, at areasonable cost. Let me know if you're interested, and I'll cut a 3", 4", orwhatever length you need. For my purposes, I'm going with a 4" bending setuplike the one Curt Merdan showed in his pics.> > --------> Tom Kreiner> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 489#435489> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 07:43:02 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Tom I searched the archives for a picture and couldn't find one. Can you shareone? Are they stainless? Thanks!Sent from my iPadJack Textor> On Dec 8, 2014, at 7:43 AM, "tkreiner" wrote:> > > There was a thread a few months ago regarding Gooseneck bending dies which Ithought would be a great addition to my own shop. So, in my travels, I came acrossa rather long Gooseneck die, and I picked it up for a rather pricey sum.> > If you want a short gooseneck, I'm cutting the long piece into a series of shortpieces, so you can bend the U shaped fittings - along with any other fittings- without having to jury rig something special. > > The cost per linear inch of the material is $7.50, and it will fit into a $5.00shipping box.> > I'm not trying to make $$ here, just help out anyone wanting such a die, at areasonable cost. Let me know if you're interested, and I'll cut a 3", 4", orwhatever length you need. For my purposes, I'm going with a 4" bending setuplike the one Curt Merdan showed in his pics.> > --------> Tom Kreiner> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 489#435489> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 07:43:02 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Pietenpol-List: Re: Gooseneck Die
Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
Jack,The pic of the Die is attached although not all the dim's are shown. If you needadditional info, I can measure the die, and add additional dim's.The material is alloy steel, probable 1018, or thereabouts. There is no nose radius,so I'm going to add one for my own bending, maybe .09 or so.Bending our U shapes fittings should be pretty easy with this. You will need toprocure or mill a VEE block, as I don't have any of those.--------Tom KreinerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/goos ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gooseneck Die
Jack,The pic of the Die is attached although not all the dim's are shown. If you needadditional info, I can measure the die, and add additional dim's.The material is alloy steel, probable 1018, or thereabouts. There is no nose radius,so I'm going to add one for my own bending, maybe .09 or so.Bending our U shapes fittings should be pretty easy with this. You will need toprocure or mill a VEE block, as I don't have any of those.--------Tom KreinerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/goos ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gooseneck Die
Pietenpol-List: Re: Gooseneck Die
Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
I'll take a 9" length if that is possible....?My press brake has a 9 &1/8" opening - so less than 9" is ok but it can't be greater.THANK YOU...!Let me know how to get the funds to you.--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gooseneck Die
I'll take a 9" length if that is possible....?My press brake has a 9 &1/8" opening - so less than 9" is ok but it can't be greater.THANK YOU...!Let me know how to get the funds to you.--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gooseneck Die
Pietenpol-List: Re: Gooseneck Die
Original Posted By: "Pietflyer1977"
See pic of my home-made press...--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gooseneck Die
See pic of my home-made press...--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gooseneck Die
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
I sent you a pm the other day.Thanks RobRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I sent you a pm the other day.Thanks RobRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Gooseneck Die
Original Posted By: "tkreiner"
Such bad, sad news, I never met him, but he was an inspiration to me. He had theforesight to set up Oscar to carry on some of his past efforts.Ray KrauseSent from my iPad> On Dec 11, 2014, at 10:57 AM, dwilson wrote:> > > Vi Kapler's daughter Rebecca asked me to inform you that Vi had a heart attackon Monday. He is on life support in the ICU at St. Mary's Hospital in Rochester.Please keep Vi and his family in your thoughts and prayers. Thank You.> > Dan Wilson> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 598#435598> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gooseneck Die
Such bad, sad news, I never met him, but he was an inspiration to me. He had theforesight to set up Oscar to carry on some of his past efforts.Ray KrauseSent from my iPad> On Dec 11, 2014, at 10:57 AM, dwilson wrote:> > > Vi Kapler's daughter Rebecca asked me to inform you that Vi had a heart attackon Monday. He is on life support in the ICU at St. Mary's Hospital in Rochester.Please keep Vi and his family in your thoughts and prayers. Thank You.> > Dan Wilson> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 598#435598> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gooseneck Die
Pietenpol-List: Re: Vi Kapler
Original Posted By: "Jeff Boatright"
Guys,At this point in time, and assuming no one cancels, the entire bar has been spokenfor.I'll let y'all know if anyone falls out...--------Tom KreinerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Vi Kapler
Guys,At this point in time, and assuming no one cancels, the entire bar has been spokenfor.I'll let y'all know if anyone falls out...--------Tom KreinerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Vi Kapler
Pietenpol-List: Re: Gooseneck Die
Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
Oscar and Bill,You have sharp eyes. Oscar, see what you are missing when you don't come see useat the Lake. Bill you are correct, the cables go through the horizontal. My forward elevator control horns are moved forward under the pilots seat andexternal like Qscar noticed. This is done to add more drag to an already draggyairplane. No, not really, It was done to have the old timey Jenny look andit also give me a VERY large baggage area behind the pilots seat. It is greatfor all the light stuff. I use to carry all of my camping gear back therebut I have gained weight and now I carry the heavy stuff in the front pit likethe rest of you. The kick stand looking thing is actually my brake to hold the plane still if thetower ask me to hold short. I just reach out and pull it, the bottom of ithas a piece of very hard rubber on it. I rarely use it anymore. It is the onlybrake I have. I have found over the years that if I leave the air pressurelow in my tires that the plane slows down nicely and stops easily. I can getit stopped on a hard surface runway at sea level in about 500'. At 4000' sealevel on a hard surface I need about 700' to get stopped. The higher the densityaltitude, the my longer it takes to get stopped. Now, why wouldn't a guylike me just put some wheel brakes on it and call it a day in this modern world?Here is that answer cause I know it is bothering you. OK, I'll pause while you go back and look at my wheels for a minute and see ifyou figure it out before I tell you. Answer below.Yes you see an old Johnson type airspeed indicator on the jury strut and it isthe only airspeed indicator I have. Fun fact here. That is the only part I didnot touch during the rebuilding of the plane in 2000. Everything else gotcompletely rebuilt but that. I wanted something left as it was when dad and Ibuilt the plane. We calibrated it out the car (1962 Pontiac station wagon) window,at various speeds on a calm day. It is surprisingly accurate, even todayafter 43 years. Have you figured out the why I don't have wheel brakes? Here is the straight (bigclue here) scoop. The wheels are original (Hayes) airplane wheels from the1920's. Back when tail skids were used. If you look it the spokes you willsee they are straight laced. They do not cross. If a load were applied to thehub the wheels would just fall apart. They cannot endure a torsional load.So that's the simple reason. If you look closely again you will see three rowsof spokes. A row in the center and a row on each side of center. This isfor the cross loads put on them if you mess up a landing. Very useful at times.The wheels are very stout. Keep looking and you I'm sure you will spot some more things that make my snowflakedifferent that all the rest. Oh, the last pic you see on the west coast site was in 1994 at Edwards AFB. 30minutes after I took that pic the hangar had another 100 homebuilts in it. Theguards were very nice to me that morning. You'll also notice the the planewas Maroon and Beige. Keven Purtie's plane has always reminded me of how mineuse to look. I miss it (the color) sometimes. See you at Frazuer Lake. AKA, the Lake Cheers,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gooseneck Die
Oscar and Bill,You have sharp eyes. Oscar, see what you are missing when you don't come see useat the Lake. Bill you are correct, the cables go through the horizontal. My forward elevator control horns are moved forward under the pilots seat andexternal like Qscar noticed. This is done to add more drag to an already draggyairplane. No, not really, It was done to have the old timey Jenny look andit also give me a VERY large baggage area behind the pilots seat. It is greatfor all the light stuff. I use to carry all of my camping gear back therebut I have gained weight and now I carry the heavy stuff in the front pit likethe rest of you. The kick stand looking thing is actually my brake to hold the plane still if thetower ask me to hold short. I just reach out and pull it, the bottom of ithas a piece of very hard rubber on it. I rarely use it anymore. It is the onlybrake I have. I have found over the years that if I leave the air pressurelow in my tires that the plane slows down nicely and stops easily. I can getit stopped on a hard surface runway at sea level in about 500'. At 4000' sealevel on a hard surface I need about 700' to get stopped. The higher the densityaltitude, the my longer it takes to get stopped. Now, why wouldn't a guylike me just put some wheel brakes on it and call it a day in this modern world?Here is that answer cause I know it is bothering you. OK, I'll pause while you go back and look at my wheels for a minute and see ifyou figure it out before I tell you. Answer below.Yes you see an old Johnson type airspeed indicator on the jury strut and it isthe only airspeed indicator I have. Fun fact here. That is the only part I didnot touch during the rebuilding of the plane in 2000. Everything else gotcompletely rebuilt but that. I wanted something left as it was when dad and Ibuilt the plane. We calibrated it out the car (1962 Pontiac station wagon) window,at various speeds on a calm day. It is surprisingly accurate, even todayafter 43 years. Have you figured out the why I don't have wheel brakes? Here is the straight (bigclue here) scoop. The wheels are original (Hayes) airplane wheels from the1920's. Back when tail skids were used. If you look it the spokes you willsee they are straight laced. They do not cross. If a load were applied to thehub the wheels would just fall apart. They cannot endure a torsional load.So that's the simple reason. If you look closely again you will see three rowsof spokes. A row in the center and a row on each side of center. This isfor the cross loads put on them if you mess up a landing. Very useful at times.The wheels are very stout. Keep looking and you I'm sure you will spot some more things that make my snowflakedifferent that all the rest. Oh, the last pic you see on the west coast site was in 1994 at Edwards AFB. 30minutes after I took that pic the hangar had another 100 homebuilts in it. Theguards were very nice to me that morning. You'll also notice the the planewas Maroon and Beige. Keven Purtie's plane has always reminded me of how mineuse to look. I miss it (the color) sometimes. See you at Frazuer Lake. AKA, the Lake Cheers,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gooseneck Die