Original Posted By: "taildrags"
A SE TX project plane is available, and for the right $$$, I might be interestedin getting it. Project has ribs, two sets of spars, steel tube fuse, and abox full of extra tubing, etc. The tank is a new, unused J3 Cub tank, and itstill has stickers on it...So, the question is: is anyone using a J3 Cub fuel tank in their Piet? If so,please let me know your experience, i.e., not enough fuel, just right, etc., also,let me know whether it's a drop in, or requires a lot of work to use.Since I have a fuse, the steel tube fuse might become available.Thanks,--------Tom KreinerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Air Camper vs SLSA
Pietenpol-List: Air Camper vs SLSA
Pietenpol-List: Re: Air Camper vs SLSA
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
So I was catching up on my stack of reading on a recent commercial flight and Iget to a page in Flying magazine where they are showing a very special deal...a Quicksilver Sport 2SE, only $39,999. It's a 2-place, open cockpit, double-surfacewing, strut braced. 65HP, 1000 lb. max takeoff weight, cruises at amax of about 60 MPH. Sounds a lot like an Air Camper, right?Considering that I'm going to be offering my Air Camper for sale for somethinga little south of $10k, this means I could possibly find four Air Campers forthe price of one new SLSA, and I could fly a different airplane every other dayof the week if I wanted to.There is something in my mind that cannot understand this, but I'm hoping it'sonly because I'm in early- to mid-geezerhood and this is normal for us.Oh, and also- a simple "glass panel" instrument for an LSA, plus an ADS-B gadget,seem to add up to the same cost as my Air Camper. It's a good thing I'm headedfor senility... that's probably the only way any of this will make sense.I'm glad it's Friday.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Air Camper vs SLSA
So I was catching up on my stack of reading on a recent commercial flight and Iget to a page in Flying magazine where they are showing a very special deal...a Quicksilver Sport 2SE, only $39,999. It's a 2-place, open cockpit, double-surfacewing, strut braced. 65HP, 1000 lb. max takeoff weight, cruises at amax of about 60 MPH. Sounds a lot like an Air Camper, right?Considering that I'm going to be offering my Air Camper for sale for somethinga little south of $10k, this means I could possibly find four Air Campers forthe price of one new SLSA, and I could fly a different airplane every other dayof the week if I wanted to.There is something in my mind that cannot understand this, but I'm hoping it'sonly because I'm in early- to mid-geezerhood and this is normal for us.Oh, and also- a simple "glass panel" instrument for an LSA, plus an ADS-B gadget,seem to add up to the same cost as my Air Camper. It's a good thing I'm headedfor senility... that's probably the only way any of this will make sense.I'm glad it's Friday.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Air Camper vs SLSA
Original Posted By: "Dennis Engelkenjohn"
Oscar,Have you been swimming around inside my head???????--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Oscar,Have you been swimming around inside my head???????--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Air Camper vs SLSA
Original Posted By: taildrags
Its easy. Why would you drive a Bentley for upwards of $300,000 when you could drive a dozen Chevrolets or Fords or whatever for that price? Don't you hold your pinkies out when you fly?dennis-----Original Message-----
Its easy. Why would you drive a Bentley for upwards of $300,000 when you could drive a dozen Chevrolets or Fords or whatever for that price? Don't you hold your pinkies out when you fly?dennis-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Any Piets/Builders in the Charlotte area?
Original Posted By: "Charles N. Campbell"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Any Piets/Builders in the Charlotte area?
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Any Piets/Builders in the Charlotte area?
Pietenpol-List: Re: Air Camper vs SLSA
Original Posted By: Ben Charvet
Wow,The Quicksilver does everything a Piet does, but only slower. Did you notice thatthe TBO on the engine is only 300 hours????? The stall speed is 38 MPH, Ithink most Piets stall a lot slower than that. Oscar, Please burn that rag ofan article so nobody else can read it. Geesh, Some people will buy most anything.I hope I have not offended anyone on this list that may have one. It is Fridayand the list is always slow on Fridays. I think Fridays should be our "we cansay what we want day without offending". All in fun folks.Cheers all,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Wow,The Quicksilver does everything a Piet does, but only slower. Did you notice thatthe TBO on the engine is only 300 hours????? The stall speed is 38 MPH, Ithink most Piets stall a lot slower than that. Oscar, Please burn that rag ofan article so nobody else can read it. Geesh, Some people will buy most anything.I hope I have not offended anyone on this list that may have one. It is Fridayand the list is always slow on Fridays. I think Fridays should be our "we cansay what we want day without offending". All in fun folks.Cheers all,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Air Camper vs SLSA
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
I'm using a J3 tank. It was an easy fit amd 12 gallons is more than i needSent from my iPhone> On Feb 6, 2015, at 4:02 PM, tkreiner wrote:> > > A SE TX project plane is available, and for the right $$$, I might be interestedin getting it. Project has ribs, two sets of spars, steel tube fuse, anda box full of extra tubing, etc. The tank is a new, unused J3 Cub tank, and itstill has stickers on it...> > So, the question is: is anyone using a J3 Cub fuel tank in their Piet? If so,please let me know your experience, i.e., not enough fuel, just right, etc.,also, let me know whether it's a drop in, or requires a lot of work to use.> > Since I have a fuse, the steel tube fuse might become available.> > Thanks,> > --------> Tom Kreiner> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 121#438121> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Air Camper vs SLSA
I'm using a J3 tank. It was an easy fit amd 12 gallons is more than i needSent from my iPhone> On Feb 6, 2015, at 4:02 PM, tkreiner wrote:> > > A SE TX project plane is available, and for the right $$$, I might be interestedin getting it. Project has ribs, two sets of spars, steel tube fuse, anda box full of extra tubing, etc. The tank is a new, unused J3 Cub tank, and itstill has stickers on it...> > So, the question is: is anyone using a J3 Cub fuel tank in their Piet? If so,please let me know your experience, i.e., not enough fuel, just right, etc.,also, let me know whether it's a drop in, or requires a lot of work to use.> > Since I have a fuse, the steel tube fuse might become available.> > Thanks,> > --------> Tom Kreiner> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 121#438121> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Air Camper vs SLSA
Original Posted By: "Dennis Engelkenjohn"
Dennis;I do not hold my pinkies out when I fly. I have found that it adds drag and slowsthe airplane when I do that.I am not out to bad-mouth anyone else's favorite airplane; not at all. The pointI wanted to make is that the Pietenpol Air Camper has a fantastic cost-to-benefitratio. My other point was that neither a glass panel nor ADS-B gadgetdoes anything to make me a better pilot or the airplane a better performer, butthey certainly cost plenty of money.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Dennis;I do not hold my pinkies out when I fly. I have found that it adds drag and slowsthe airplane when I do that.I am not out to bad-mouth anyone else's favorite airplane; not at all. The pointI wanted to make is that the Pietenpol Air Camper has a fantastic cost-to-benefitratio. My other point was that neither a glass panel nor ADS-B gadgetdoes anything to make me a better pilot or the airplane a better performer, butthey certainly cost plenty of money.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Air Camper vs SLSA
Original Posted By: taildrags
I understood, I was trying to be tongue in cheek but you know how the interweb is, you can't show humor.Dennis-----Original Message-----
I understood, I was trying to be tongue in cheek but you know how the interweb is, you can't show humor.Dennis-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Air Camper vs SLSA
Original Posted By: "wheelharp"
Oscar, You are going to put NX41CC up for sale?--------Jon JonesIronton, MORead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Air Camper vs SLSA
Oscar, You are going to put NX41CC up for sale?--------Jon JonesIronton, MORead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Air Camper vs SLSA
Pietenpol-List: Re: Air Camper vs SLSA
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Oscar, You are going to put NX41CC up for sale?--------Jon JonesIronton, MORead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Air Camper vs SLSA
Oscar, You are going to put NX41CC up for sale?--------Jon JonesIronton, MORead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Air Camper vs SLSA
Original Posted By: Jack
Yes, Scout will be up for sale this spring. I'm not even bothering with it rightnow, since it's still cold and rainy up here in the PacNW, but come springtimeit's going to be available. I have two other projects waiting for me in thehangar and I'll never work on them if I have an airplane to fly.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Yes, Scout will be up for sale this spring. I'm not even bothering with it rightnow, since it's still cold and rainy up here in the PacNW, but come springtimeit's going to be available. I have two other projects waiting for me in thehangar and I'll never work on them if I have an airplane to fly.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Any Piets/Builders in the Charlotte area?
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
Jim,I'm in Gilbert, SC. That's about an hour away. It's just west of Columbia.You're welcome anytime if you like. My airplane is finished and waiting for theDAR on the 14th.JackSent from my iPad> On Feb 6, 2015, at 3:40 PM, dfwplt wrote:> > > I'll have trips in the next couple weeks to Anderson, SC and Newton, NC and wonderif there are any Piet People in the area? Flying into/out of Charlotte.> > Jim in Pryor> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 120#438120> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Jim,I'm in Gilbert, SC. That's about an hour away. It's just west of Columbia.You're welcome anytime if you like. My airplane is finished and waiting for theDAR on the 14th.JackSent from my iPad> On Feb 6, 2015, at 3:40 PM, dfwplt wrote:> > > I'll have trips in the next couple weeks to Anderson, SC and Newton, NC and wonderif there are any Piet People in the area? Flying into/out of Charlotte.> > Jim in Pryor> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 120#438120> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Air Camper vs SLSA
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
Oscar,I could just buy your plane and part it out for more than 10K! Hmm, engine 10K,turn buckles $500, wheels $300, instruments $800, prop $1000, your time ZILTCH.Had a great visit with Gary Boothe today. Poor guy had to listen to my blabbingfor about two hours! Too big a price to pay for a breakfast!Ray KrauseSent from my iPad> On Feb 6, 2015, at 1:14 PM, taildrags wrote:> > > So I was catching up on my stack of reading on a recent commercial flight andI get to a page in Flying magazine where they are showing a very special deal...a Quicksilver Sport 2SE, only $39,999. It's a 2-place, open cockpit, double-surfacewing, strut braced. 65HP, 1000 lb. max takeoff weight, cruises ata max of about 60 MPH. Sounds a lot like an Air Camper, right?> > Considering that I'm going to be offering my Air Camper for sale for somethinga little south of $10k, this means I could possibly find four Air Campers forthe price of one new SLSA, and I could fly a different airplane every otherday of the week if I wanted to.> > There is something in my mind that cannot understand this, but I'm hoping it'sonly because I'm in early- to mid-geezerhood and this is normal for us.> > Oh, and also- a simple "glass panel" instrument for an LSA, plus an ADS-B gadget,seem to add up to the same cost as my Air Camper. It's a good thing I'mheaded for senility... that's probably the only way any of this will make sense.> > I'm glad it's Friday.> > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 123#438123> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Oscar,I could just buy your plane and part it out for more than 10K! Hmm, engine 10K,turn buckles $500, wheels $300, instruments $800, prop $1000, your time ZILTCH.Had a great visit with Gary Boothe today. Poor guy had to listen to my blabbingfor about two hours! Too big a price to pay for a breakfast!Ray KrauseSent from my iPad> On Feb 6, 2015, at 1:14 PM, taildrags wrote:> > > So I was catching up on my stack of reading on a recent commercial flight andI get to a page in Flying magazine where they are showing a very special deal...a Quicksilver Sport 2SE, only $39,999. It's a 2-place, open cockpit, double-surfacewing, strut braced. 65HP, 1000 lb. max takeoff weight, cruises ata max of about 60 MPH. Sounds a lot like an Air Camper, right?> > Considering that I'm going to be offering my Air Camper for sale for somethinga little south of $10k, this means I could possibly find four Air Campers forthe price of one new SLSA, and I could fly a different airplane every otherday of the week if I wanted to.> > There is something in my mind that cannot understand this, but I'm hoping it'sonly because I'm in early- to mid-geezerhood and this is normal for us.> > Oh, and also- a simple "glass panel" instrument for an LSA, plus an ADS-B gadget,seem to add up to the same cost as my Air Camper. It's a good thing I'mheaded for senility... that's probably the only way any of this will make sense.> > I'm glad it's Friday.> > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 123#438123> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Air Camper vs SLSA
Original Posted By: "wheelharp"
I'm using one in the Sky Scout, but had to cut a triangle piece off the bottom rear area, now it holds only 10 gals. Easy installation.Sent from my iPad> On Feb 6, 2015, at 1:55 PM, Ben Charvet wrote:> > > I'm using a J3 tank. It was an easy fit amd 12 gallons is more than i need> > Sent from my iPhone> >> On Feb 6, 2015, at 4:02 PM, tkreiner wrote:>> >> >> A SE TX project plane is available, and for the right $$$, I might be interested in getting it. Project has ribs, two sets of spars, steel tube fuse, and a box full of extra tubing, etc. The tank is a new, unused J3 Cub tank, and it still has stickers on it...>> >> So, the question is: is anyone using a J3 Cub fuel tank in their Piet? If so, please let me know your experience, i.e., not enough fuel, just right, etc., also, let me know whether it's a drop in, or requires a lot of work to use.>> >> Since I have a fuse, the steel tube fuse might become available.>> >> Thanks,>> >> -------->> Tom Kreiner>> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here:>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 121#438121>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ============================================================================================================================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Air Camper vs SLSA
I'm using one in the Sky Scout, but had to cut a triangle piece off the bottom rear area, now it holds only 10 gals. Easy installation.Sent from my iPad> On Feb 6, 2015, at 1:55 PM, Ben Charvet wrote:> > > I'm using a J3 tank. It was an easy fit amd 12 gallons is more than i need> > Sent from my iPhone> >> On Feb 6, 2015, at 4:02 PM, tkreiner wrote:>> >> >> A SE TX project plane is available, and for the right $$$, I might be interested in getting it. Project has ribs, two sets of spars, steel tube fuse, and a box full of extra tubing, etc. The tank is a new, unused J3 Cub tank, and it still has stickers on it...>> >> So, the question is: is anyone using a J3 Cub fuel tank in their Piet? If so, please let me know your experience, i.e., not enough fuel, just right, etc., also, let me know whether it's a drop in, or requires a lot of work to use.>> >> Since I have a fuse, the steel tube fuse might become available.>> >> Thanks,>> >> -------->> Tom Kreiner>> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here:>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 121#438121>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ============================================================================================================================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Air Camper vs SLSA
Pietenpol-List: Re: Air Camper vs SLSA
Original Posted By: "wheelharp"
If I wasn't so looking forward to building my own Piet, I would jump on that dealso fast your head would spin : )--------Jon JonesIronton, MORead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Air Camper vs SLSA
If I wasn't so looking forward to building my own Piet, I would jump on that dealso fast your head would spin : )--------Jon JonesIronton, MORead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Air Camper vs SLSA
Pietenpol-List: Re: Any Piets/Builders in the Charlotte area?
Original Posted By: "William Wynne"
If I wasn't so looking forward to building my own Piet, I would jump on that dealso fast your head would spin : )--------Jon JonesIronton, MORead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Any Piets/Builders in the Charlotte area?
If I wasn't so looking forward to building my own Piet, I would jump on that dealso fast your head would spin : )--------Jon JonesIronton, MORead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Any Piets/Builders in the Charlotte area?
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
If you are headed over to see Jack in Gilbert, Barnwell is about 45 more minutessouth. It is the home of two flying Corvair powered Pietempols, P.F. Beck's:http://flycorvair.net/2014/11/16/the-ch ... -2014/.and Don Harper'shttp://flycorvair.net/2013/01/17/nwe-pietenpol-2700-corvair-don-harper-sc/Tim Freer is the airport manager, he knows both men well, you can touch base withhim and make sure they are around. All three men are the central crew thatare the local host of the 5 Corvair Colleges we have held in Barnwell. I am notsure if Jack is at the White Plains airport (I think it is in Gilbert) but thatwas the Location of Corvair Colleges #12 and #16. With local host Ed and ValFisher. A friendly residential airport.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
If you are headed over to see Jack in Gilbert, Barnwell is about 45 more minutessouth. It is the home of two flying Corvair powered Pietempols, P.F. Beck's:http://flycorvair.net/2014/11/16/the-ch ... -2014/.and Don Harper'shttp://flycorvair.net/2013/01/17/nwe-pietenpol-2700-corvair-don-harper-sc/Tim Freer is the airport manager, he knows both men well, you can touch base withhim and make sure they are around. All three men are the central crew thatare the local host of the 5 Corvair Colleges we have held in Barnwell. I am notsure if Jack is at the White Plains airport (I think it is in Gilbert) but thatwas the Location of Corvair Colleges #12 and #16. With local host Ed and ValFisher. A friendly residential airport.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________