Original Posted By: "Texaspiet"
I haven't glued anything in yet. I was going to add the piece of plywood behindthe headrest last. Tomorrow I will start over from the front. I am not familiarwith cadcam programs so will do it the old fashion way...with strings.--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Steel Fuselage
Pietenpol-List: Steel Fuselage
Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Fuselage
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Rejoining the list today. I bought a steel tube Pietenpol project and was lookingfor anyone else building with a steel tube fuselage. Thanks!Rich--------Rich Green, CFIRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Fuselage
Rejoining the list today. I bought a steel tube Pietenpol project and was lookingfor anyone else building with a steel tube fuselage. Thanks!Rich--------Rich Green, CFIRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Fuselage
Original Posted By: "Clif Dawson"
Rich; I don't know who might be building one in TX, but I'm pretty sure Terry Handis building a steel tube fuselage in GA, so is Jake Schultz up here in WAstate, and of course Scott Liefeld out here in California has been flying hissince 1972 and is very helpful with building tips.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 power, 72x36 Culver propRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Rich; I don't know who might be building one in TX, but I'm pretty sure Terry Handis building a steel tube fuselage in GA, so is Jake Schultz up here in WAstate, and of course Scott Liefeld out here in California has been flying hissince 1972 and is very helpful with building tips.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 power, 72x36 Culver propRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Turtle Deck Help!
Original Posted By: "M W Stanley"
I agree. I've already been using that plydeck to heave myself in and out and sat on itmany times also. It's a thin ply over a balsa base.Because the sides are curved from the seat to the tail I evened out the stringer spacing atthe center former, half way between seat back and tail. If they are dead straight then whencovered that area next to the fuselage side will look wrongly different from the rest. Likethe turtledeck was thoughtlessly thrown together.Clifhttp://www.flamingsteel.com/the-secret-behind- ... effect.php>> John;>> It does seem to be taking on some pleasing lines! And I realize that > you're just getting underway with it, but if you'll look at the image > "tdeck1" that I sent, that piece of plywood over the stringers just aft of > the rear seat back is very important. I rest the palm of my hand right > there every time I get out of the cockpit, and if the plywood wasn't > there, I would be pushing on the fabric and not much else. You don't have > to scallop the aft edge of the plywood, but I think the scalloping helps > the fabric lay down smoother and not form a visible ridge where the > plywood ends.>> --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop________________________________________________________________________________
I agree. I've already been using that plydeck to heave myself in and out and sat on itmany times also. It's a thin ply over a balsa base.Because the sides are curved from the seat to the tail I evened out the stringer spacing atthe center former, half way between seat back and tail. If they are dead straight then whencovered that area next to the fuselage side will look wrongly different from the rest. Likethe turtledeck was thoughtlessly thrown together.Clifhttp://www.flamingsteel.com/the-secret-behind- ... effect.php>> John;>> It does seem to be taking on some pleasing lines! And I realize that > you're just getting underway with it, but if you'll look at the image > "tdeck1" that I sent, that piece of plywood over the stringers just aft of > the rear seat back is very important. I rest the palm of my hand right > there every time I get out of the cockpit, and if the plywood wasn't > there, I would be pushing on the fabric and not much else. You don't have > to scallop the aft edge of the plywood, but I think the scalloping helps > the fabric lay down smoother and not form a visible ridge where the > plywood ends.>> --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Turtle Deck Help!
Original Posted By: "Clif Dawson"
Hi all,I like the idea of the thin ply over balsa scallops.Good strength with low weight and it is very pleasing to the eye to boot.If I get that far, I will do the same with my project.ThanksMark StanleyJapan--------------------------------------------------
Hi all,I like the idea of the thin ply over balsa scallops.Good strength with low weight and it is very pleasing to the eye to boot.If I get that far, I will do the same with my project.ThanksMark StanleyJapan--------------------------------------------------
Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Fuselage
Original Posted By: "wheelharp"
Per the plans, it shows that the recessed portion of the LE as well as the centerbeam be applied with 3/16 ply. My question is can this be pieces of 1/8 plylaminated and sized or should I buy a piece of 3/16 ply for this? Has anyoneused anything other than ply? Spruce? also is the TE to be applied with 3/16 aswell or just the 1/8? Thanks in advance for any help on this.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Fuselage
Per the plans, it shows that the recessed portion of the LE as well as the centerbeam be applied with 3/16 ply. My question is can this be pieces of 1/8 plylaminated and sized or should I buy a piece of 3/16 ply for this? Has anyoneused anything other than ply? Spruce? also is the TE to be applied with 3/16 aswell or just the 1/8? Thanks in advance for any help on this.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Fuselage
Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Fuselage
Original Posted By: "Texaspiet"
What part of TX are you in? One of the Corvair guys is building steel tube fusein north/central Louisiana.--------Jon JonesIronton, MORead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Fuselage
What part of TX are you in? One of the Corvair guys is building steel tube fusein north/central Louisiana.--------Jon JonesIronton, MORead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Fuselage
Original Posted By: Matt Dralle
Thanks all for the contacts! Looking forward to learning more from the site. HappyThanksgiving! Rich--------Rich Green, CFIRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 08:06:30 -0800
Thanks all for the contacts! Looking forward to learning more from the site. HappyThanksgiving! Rich--------Rich Green, CFIRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 08:06:30 -0800
Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Fuselage
Original Posted By: Glen Schweizer
I live in the Katy TX area just West if Houston about 40 miles or so. I am mostinterested in learning how to attach the fittings best to the tubing. As faras I know there are no plans for the tube fuselage other than the fuselage itself.Best regards, Rich--------Rich Green, CFIRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I live in the Katy TX area just West if Houston about 40 miles or so. I am mostinterested in learning how to attach the fittings best to the tubing. As faras I know there are no plans for the tube fuselage other than the fuselage itself.Best regards, Rich--------Rich Green, CFIRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Fuselage
Original Posted By: Chris Tracy
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel FuselageAssuming that it's 4130 either TIG or gas weld NO MIG. With the typical MIG setup, Chrome Molly steel can become very brittle at the junction of the weld. "Womenfly too" please chime in you're the expert on this stuff 4130 can be weldedwith MIG, but it does take specialized equipment and some highly developedskills 4130 is a different animal> On Nov 23, 2016, at 8:26 AM, Texaspiet wrote:> > > I live in the Katy TX area just West if Houston about 40 miles or so. I am mostinterested in learning how to attach the fittings best to the tubing. Asfar as I know there are no plans for the tube fuselage other than the fuselageitself. Best regards, Rich> > --------> Rich Green, CFI> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 073#463073> > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 17:21:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel FuselageAssuming that it's 4130 either TIG or gas weld NO MIG. With the typical MIG setup, Chrome Molly steel can become very brittle at the junction of the weld. "Womenfly too" please chime in you're the expert on this stuff 4130 can be weldedwith MIG, but it does take specialized equipment and some highly developedskills 4130 is a different animal> On Nov 23, 2016, at 8:26 AM, Texaspiet wrote:> > > I live in the Katy TX area just West if Houston about 40 miles or so. I am mostinterested in learning how to attach the fittings best to the tubing. Asfar as I know there are no plans for the tube fuselage other than the fuselageitself. Best regards, Rich> > --------> Rich Green, CFI> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 073#463073> > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 17:21:33 +0000 (UTC)