Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Brent; now you're talking! Please do let me know when you're back out here tovisit your parents and we can run over to my hangar and talk Piets. Do you havea tailwheel endorsement or any time in taildraggers?It might be possible to take a tour of the Rogue Valley from the air if the weathercooperates when you're out this way.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 power, 72x36 Culver propRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Pietenpol-List: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
Hey Brent,Welcome. I'm a fan of buying a project, or better, a derelict aircraft. But withthis caveat. Just assume you are going to rebuild the fuse, respar the wings,and change the engine. Look for projects that come with materials, turnbuckles,hardware, etc. The derelict aircraft has dozens of fittings that aren'twelded or anything. Not much satisfaction in building them, no risk in reusing.Food for thought. Enjoy the ride!ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Hey Brent,Welcome. I'm a fan of buying a project, or better, a derelict aircraft. But withthis caveat. Just assume you are going to rebuild the fuse, respar the wings,and change the engine. Look for projects that come with materials, turnbuckles,hardware, etc. The derelict aircraft has dozens of fittings that aren'twelded or anything. Not much satisfaction in building them, no risk in reusing.Food for thought. Enjoy the ride!ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Original Posted By: "JSeitz"
I don't think that the EAA will shoot me for sharing this, but I have attacheda copy of an article written last year about a Flying Club built around a Pietenpol.Apparently it makes a very good basic trainer.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/arti ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
I don't think that the EAA will shoot me for sharing this, but I have attacheda copy of an article written last year about a Flying Club built around a Pietenpol.Apparently it makes a very good basic trainer.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/arti ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Original Posted By: "womenfly2"
Pieter, I need a little help. Lost my source for wheels, brakes and master cylinders.Am leaning toward motorcycle wheels and brakes. Would like your thoughts and suggestionsplease. Although I'm not ready for them yet I like to accumulate myparts in advance.CorkySent from my iPad________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Pieter, I need a little help. Lost my source for wheels, brakes and master cylinders.Am leaning toward motorcycle wheels and brakes. Would like your thoughts and suggestionsplease. Although I'm not ready for them yet I like to accumulate myparts in advance.CorkySent from my iPad________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Original Posted By: "tkreiner"
Flight Instruction in an Experimental Amateur-Built Aircraft (http://forums.matronics.com/posting.php ... 2d5ff0e690)WF2--------Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Flight Instruction in an Experimental Amateur-Built Aircraft (http://forums.matronics.com/posting.php ... 2d5ff0e690)WF2--------Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
Brent,Welcome! I'm a new builder too. I recommend Tony Bingelis' advise to build a mockupfuselage (or any other part) before you build the 'flying' parts. I builta mockup fuse over a couple of weekends and it has been a great help to me inunderstand how the thing goes together, what to avoid next time, and fillingin the many details omitted from the plans. I'm modifying the long-Corvair fuselagefor just one person so I've worked out many changes on the mockup. Also,landing gear design and placement and fuel tank design and placement are importantelements that aren't well described in the various plans. Good luck,--------Vincent DunnSalem Oregonvincentkdunn(at)yahoo.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/mock ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Brent,Welcome! I'm a new builder too. I recommend Tony Bingelis' advise to build a mockupfuselage (or any other part) before you build the 'flying' parts. I builta mockup fuse over a couple of weekends and it has been a great help to me inunderstand how the thing goes together, what to avoid next time, and fillingin the many details omitted from the plans. I'm modifying the long-Corvair fuselagefor just one person so I've worked out many changes on the mockup. Also,landing gear design and placement and fuel tank design and placement are importantelements that aren't well described in the various plans. Good luck,--------Vincent DunnSalem Oregonvincentkdunn(at)yahoo.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/mock ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Original Posted By: "JSeitz"
Corky,For my wheels I used rims off the rear wheels of a 650 Yamaha. The hubs were made by me from plans that have been around for awhile. Chris Tracy's website has a lot of info on the wheels and how the hubs can be made. Here is a link. http://www.westcoastpiet.com/wire_wheels.htmI used Buchanans in California for my custom spokes.Rick SchrieberNX478RSSent from my iPad> On Feb 14, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Claude Corbett wrote:> > > Pieter, I need a little help. Lost my source for wheels, brakes and master cylinders.> Am leaning toward motorcycle wheels and brakes. Would like your thoughts andsuggestions please. Although I'm not ready for them yet I like to accumulate myparts in advance.> Corky> > > Sent from my iPad> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Corky,For my wheels I used rims off the rear wheels of a 650 Yamaha. The hubs were made by me from plans that have been around for awhile. Chris Tracy's website has a lot of info on the wheels and how the hubs can be made. Here is a link. http://www.westcoastpiet.com/wire_wheels.htmI used Buchanans in California for my custom spokes.Rick SchrieberNX478RSSent from my iPad> On Feb 14, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Claude Corbett wrote:> > > Pieter, I need a little help. Lost my source for wheels, brakes and master cylinders.> Am leaning toward motorcycle wheels and brakes. Would like your thoughts andsuggestions please. Although I'm not ready for them yet I like to accumulate myparts in advance.> Corky> > > Sent from my iPad> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Original Posted By: tonyp51qa
Thanks Oscar,I'm sure glad you check on my posts every so often. I will give it a shot.BrentRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 21:57:58 -0800Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Thanks Oscar,I'm sure glad you check on my posts every so often. I will give it a shot.BrentRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 21:57:58 -0800Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Original Posted By: "cdlwingnut"
yes i have the real pietenpol plans as well, and the plans to the MiniMax.I think you are right on it not being much more work to build the real piet, butI am on a budget and the ultra-piet is easier on my budget, mostly since i havean engine available to me for the ragwing. a lot of the building is similar in both the pietenpol and ultra-piet. I wouldlove to hear from someone who has flown both. I do have a little time in a realPietenpol.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
yes i have the real pietenpol plans as well, and the plans to the MiniMax.I think you are right on it not being much more work to build the real piet, butI am on a budget and the ultra-piet is easier on my budget, mostly since i havean engine available to me for the ragwing. a lot of the building is similar in both the pietenpol and ultra-piet. I wouldlove to hear from someone who has flown both. I do have a little time in a realPietenpol.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
If I remember correctly, Grant MacLaren has built and flown both an Air Camperand an UltraPiet. However, he seems to have faded from the Piet scene years ago.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 power, 72x36 Culver propRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
If I remember correctly, Grant MacLaren has built and flown both an Air Camperand an UltraPiet. However, he seems to have faded from the Piet scene years ago.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 power, 72x36 Culver propRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
My Piet is perfectly capable of being flown by reference to instruments. It justdoesn't have them ;o)Thanks for the clarification, because there are certainly aviation activities thatrequire properly-equipped aircraft to do.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 power, 72x36 Culver propRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
My Piet is perfectly capable of being flown by reference to instruments. It justdoesn't have them ;o)Thanks for the clarification, because there are certainly aviation activities thatrequire properly-equipped aircraft to do.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 power, 72x36 Culver propRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Original Posted By: Jack Textor
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraftJust a thought, wait now I am not so sure. I am glad I did not just popoff.I was going to suggest taking the student to a place that has a flight simand the required aircraft for that training and pay them for that portionof training. I just did my instrument ticket at Tempus training in SanMarcos, Texas. Yes I have drank the koolaide and I have become a truebeliever in Sim training. "Come on in boys, the water is fine!"However, there would be a significant amount of time getting spun up on howto fly a Cessna 172 with the G1000 glass cockpit.To mitigate this spin up, tell your student to use the Microsoft flight simprogram on their home computer to prepare for this. This will give them thehow to on the G1000 and the Cessna 172. Or Buttonology as my instructortold me.Blue Skies,Steve D.On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 2:39 PM, cdlwingnut wrote:>> First, kudos for wanting to give instruction in the piet. I think it would> be great for any pilot to get time anything with the little wheel in the> back where it belongs and esp. in the piet.>> as far as earning a pilot certificate in one getting a sport certificat i> don't see a problem but the private certificat requires 3 hours of flying> on instruments as well as using navigaton equipment and for the checkride> you need an aircraft capable of being flown by reference to instruments. So> for the private certificate you will probably need to use something else> for part of the training and the check ride.>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 466676>>-- Blue Skies,Steve D________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraftJust a thought, wait now I am not so sure. I am glad I did not just popoff.I was going to suggest taking the student to a place that has a flight simand the required aircraft for that training and pay them for that portionof training. I just did my instrument ticket at Tempus training in SanMarcos, Texas. Yes I have drank the koolaide and I have become a truebeliever in Sim training. "Come on in boys, the water is fine!"However, there would be a significant amount of time getting spun up on howto fly a Cessna 172 with the G1000 glass cockpit.To mitigate this spin up, tell your student to use the Microsoft flight simprogram on their home computer to prepare for this. This will give them thehow to on the G1000 and the Cessna 172. Or Buttonology as my instructortold me.Blue Skies,Steve D.On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 2:39 PM, cdlwingnut wrote:>> First, kudos for wanting to give instruction in the piet. I think it would> be great for any pilot to get time anything with the little wheel in the> back where it belongs and esp. in the piet.>> as far as earning a pilot certificate in one getting a sport certificat i> don't see a problem but the private certificat requires 3 hours of flying> on instruments as well as using navigaton equipment and for the checkride> you need an aircraft capable of being flown by reference to instruments. So> for the private certificate you will probably need to use something else> for part of the training and the check ride.>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 466676>>-- Blue Skies,Steve D________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ragwing Ultra-PietGrant is on Facebook...Jack TextorSent from my iPad> On Feb 26, 2017, at 3:07 PM, taildrags wrote:> > > If I remember correctly, Grant MacLaren has built and flown both an Air Camperand an UltraPiet. However, he seems to have faded from the Piet scene yearsago.> > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 677#466677> > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ragwing Ultra-PietGrant is on Facebook...Jack TextorSent from my iPad> On Feb 26, 2017, at 3:07 PM, taildrags wrote:> > > If I remember correctly, Grant MacLaren has built and flown both an Air Camperand an UltraPiet. However, he seems to have faded from the Piet scene yearsago.> > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 677#466677> > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft