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Re: N34KP's rebuild
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:14 pm
by taildrags
The same happened to NX41CC. I repaired the seat front twice during the time that I owned the plane, and the last time I did that I also added some supplementary framing similar to what you've done to provide more glued surface area to transfer the load from the plywood to the framing. I should also have used heavier plywood for the seat front as long as I was redoing it.
-Oscar
Re: N34KP's rebuild
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:07 pm
by Richard Roller
Center seat support glue up.
Re: N34KP's rebuild
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 11:10 pm
by taildrags
Interesting detail: the tapered wedges that slope the front seat bottom just a tad. Improves the pax comfort over a flat seat bottom. Was it originally that way, or is that improvement yours?
-Oscar
Re: N34KP's rebuild
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 8:14 am
by Richard Roller
That is my fix to reading the print wrong and screwing up the pieces when I cut them. The glue lines and fits were so good, I didn't want to tear everything out and start over.
Re: N34KP's rebuild
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 4:21 pm
by taildrags
Got it. And if it's any consolation, pretty much anything in or on the passenger's seat is directly on the CG, so it won't affect the balance if you add weight there. In my W&B spreadsheet, I ran what-ifs to test the forward and aft CG limits. With the lightest possible pilot solo in the pilot's seat and a full 16 gal of fuel in the tank (which is upfront in 41CC), the spreadsheet said minimum pilot weight is 106 lbs but in that configuration with the CG at its forward-most limit the plane would be 248 lbs under max gross. If I place a 248 lb pax in the front seat, the plane is at gross but the CG only moves 1/2" aft. Thing is, I doubt whether a 248 lb person could physically get into the front cockpit of 41CC.
-Oscar
Re: N34KP's rebuild
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 6:44 pm
by Richard Roller
Trying to get re-motivated on the repair. So, rough cut out and test fit of the rear seat back.
Re: N34KP's rebuild
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 11:21 pm
by taildrags
Roger, three-four kilo papa. Proceed on course.
Oscar Zuniga
Medford OR
Re: N34KP's rebuild
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2025 3:03 pm
by Richard Roller
Pilots seat bottom cross brace.
Re: N34KP's rebuild
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 9:26 am
by Richard Roller
Pilots seat back glue up.
Re: N34KP's rebuild
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 12:02 pm
by taildrags
Good to see you back at it, Richard. Steady progress wins the day.
-Oscar
Re: N34KP's rebuild
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 4:57 pm
by Richard Roller
Impressive how much those two seat backs stiffen up the structure.
Re: N34KP's rebuild
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 10:53 am
by taildrags
There is much to admire and appreciate about Mr. Pietenpol's Air Camper. Simple but strong; not flashy but still timeless. Affordable, but not "cheap".
-Oscar
Re: N34KP's rebuild
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 2:37 pm
by Richard Roller
Another piece of the rear seat.
Re: N34KP's rebuild
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 3:03 pm
by taildrags
Keep that T-88 flowing...
-Oscar
Re: N34KP's rebuild
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2025 2:34 pm
by Richard Roller
Two vertical pieces gluing into the the rear seat structure.
Re: N34KP's rebuild
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2025 11:28 pm
by taildrags
Makes me want to build one. I've done a lot of work on them, but never built one from scratch. So enjoyable to work on these planes.
-Oscar
Re: N34KP's rebuild
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 2:56 pm
by Richard Roller
Gluing in a couple of rear seat supports.
Re: N34KP's rebuild
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2025 9:10 pm
by Richard Roller
Test fit of the plug and reinforcement of the pilots seat frame.
Re: N34KP's rebuild
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2025 10:57 am
by taildrags
Very neat little detail. I was wondering how and why that seat support crossmember had been notched.
-Oscar
Re: N34KP's rebuild
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2025 3:13 pm
by Richard Roller
Oscar. It was notched because I couldn't get the torque tube out when the frame was assembled.
Re: N34KP's rebuild
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2025 3:14 pm
by Richard Roller
Fitting the pilots seat bottom. It turned out pretty good!
Re: N34KP's rebuild
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2025 8:47 am
by Richard Roller
So, I decided I wanted the rear seat bottom removable. Measured and measured. Cut out the pieces, glued in the spacers and fit the seat bottom. Looks good. Hmmm. I clamped plywood to the sides. The seat bottom won't clear the diagonals. So rework the seat bottom. Clears now!
Re: N34KP's rebuild
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2025 10:52 am
by taildrags
The bottom of the pilot's seat on NX41CC is removable and I made use of that quite a few times in the years that I had the plane.
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Re: N34KP's rebuild
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2025 1:59 pm
by Richard Roller
A couple of new pieces for the rebuild.
Re: N34KP's rebuild
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2025 3:33 pm
by taildrags
When Corky built my Piet, he mounted the gascolator at the bottom of the firewall, which makes sense from the standpoint of making the Curtis valve easy to get to for checking for water in the fuel. However, he actually mounted it with part of the bowl sticking down into the slipstream below the lower lip of the firewall. When the gear collapsed, the plane came down onto its chin and the air box and firewall dug into the ground, causing it to flip over onto its back. The gascolator got shoved up into the engine compartment, although it didn't shear off. Fortunately, the fuel had been shut off, but the point is- when I repaired the airplane I mounted the gascolator onto the new firewall up high enough to keep it out of harm's way. A bit less convenient to get to, but safer. One downside is that it made a bit less of the fuel usable by gravity feed when the fuel level in the tank is way down into the last couple of gallons.
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR