Original Posted By: jkahn(at)picasso.dehavilland.ca (John Kahn)
Does anyone have any information regarding placing the radiator on a ModelA - Air Camper under the motor as opposed directly in front of the cockpit?This has been another reason I've been leaning towards an air-cooled versionas I tend to like to see in front! I tought I'd seen something about thisbefore. Has anyone built one like this, and are there cooling problems?Jim Wrightjgw(at)skynet.be________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Model A Radiator options
Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A Radiator options
Original Posted By: Ed0248(at)aol.com
You can do it that way but you must have a header tank up high somewhereso steam bubbles in the head have somewhere to go. Possibly you couldbuild a header tank into the center section leading edge.I had also thought about mounting a rad flat in the center section withappropriate scoops and/or ducts, and putting the gas tank in the nose (whichwould mean moving the model A's carb down below the engine).johnk________________________________________________________________________________
You can do it that way but you must have a header tank up high somewhereso steam bubbles in the head have somewhere to go. Possibly you couldbuild a header tank into the center section leading edge.I had also thought about mounting a rad flat in the center section withappropriate scoops and/or ducts, and putting the gas tank in the nose (whichwould mean moving the model A's carb down below the engine).johnk________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A Radiator options
Original Posted By: clawler
Have you looked in the 1933 Flying Manual from EAA? In an article on the GereSport, page 18, they describe installing a radiator beneath the Chevy engine,complete with photos of the installation with a header tank. Might beinteresting.(new Guy), Ed Woerle________________________________________________________________________________
Have you looked in the 1933 Flying Manual from EAA? In an article on the GereSport, page 18, they describe installing a radiator beneath the Chevy engine,complete with photos of the installation with a header tank. Might beinteresting.(new Guy), Ed Woerle________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A Radiator options
Original Posted By: Greg Cardinal
Hi Jim: You might want to get a copy of the 1933 Flying Manual from the EAA AviationFoundation Library. I think the cost is about $6.00. In addition to a lot ofinfo on the Piet, there is a great article on the Gere Sport Biplane, whichmounted a Model A Ford, with the radiator under the engine. From page 4-18 areseveral detailed drawings, photos and descriptions.Warren________________________________________________________________________________
Hi Jim: You might want to get a copy of the 1933 Flying Manual from the EAA AviationFoundation Library. I think the cost is about $6.00. In addition to a lot ofinfo on the Piet, there is a great article on the Gere Sport Biplane, whichmounted a Model A Ford, with the radiator under the engine. From page 4-18 areseveral detailed drawings, photos and descriptions.Warren________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A Radiator options
Original Posted By: rrager(at)idir.net (Rick Rager)
John Kahn wrote:> > You can do it that way but you must have a header tank up high somewhere> so steam bubbles in the head have somewhere to go. Possibly you could> build a header tank into the center section leading edge.> > I had also thought about mounting a rad flat in the center section with> appropriate scoops and/or ducts, and putting the gas tank in the nose (which> would mean moving the model A's carb down below the engine).> > johnkHi John, Are you coming to the meeting on Monday?Domenic________________________________________________________________________________
John Kahn wrote:> > You can do it that way but you must have a header tank up high somewhere> so steam bubbles in the head have somewhere to go. Possibly you could> build a header tank into the center section leading edge.> > I had also thought about mounting a rad flat in the center section with> appropriate scoops and/or ducts, and putting the gas tank in the nose (which> would mean moving the model A's carb down below the engine).> > johnkHi John, Are you coming to the meeting on Monday?Domenic________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A Radiator options
Original Posted By: Jim Wright
Jim,I have news for you. I have a Continental A65/75 and I can't see in frontof me!! Especially with a passenger, but still flies with the nose highenough to not be able to see well without one.Ted Brousseau,Naples, FL>Does anyone have any information regarding placing the radiator on a Model>A - Air Camper under the motor as opposed directly in front of the cockpit?>>This has been another reason I've been leaning towards an air-cooled version>as I tend to like to see in front! I tought I'd seen something about this>before. Has anyone built one like this, and are there cooling problems?>>Jim Wright>jgw(at)skynet.be>>________________________________________________________________________________
Jim,I have news for you. I have a Continental A65/75 and I can't see in frontof me!! Especially with a passenger, but still flies with the nose highenough to not be able to see well without one.Ted Brousseau,Naples, FL>Does anyone have any information regarding placing the radiator on a Model>A - Air Camper under the motor as opposed directly in front of the cockpit?>>This has been another reason I've been leaning towards an air-cooled version>as I tend to like to see in front! I tought I'd seen something about this>before. Has anyone built one like this, and are there cooling problems?>>Jim Wright>jgw(at)skynet.be>>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A Radiator options
Original Posted By: Ted Brousseau
Ted,Thanks for the Continental info.Right after I sent this out I received my newsletter. In the back Grant hasa quote about the fact that the "guy talking about the radiator blocking hisview and blowing heat in the cockpit has never actually flown an A-poweredPiet!"Unfortunately he's right in my case!! Can't seem to find one over here inEurope yet to get a ride...Oh well... I'll just have to plan my vacation oneyear to coincide with Brodhead!For what it's worth though, he's got me re-considering "dusting off" oneHenry's best! Hard to beat the sound of a Model-A Ford! Hope the Belgianauthorities agree.Jim Wrightjgw(at)skynet.be-----Original Message-----
Ted,Thanks for the Continental info.Right after I sent this out I received my newsletter. In the back Grant hasa quote about the fact that the "guy talking about the radiator blocking hisview and blowing heat in the cockpit has never actually flown an A-poweredPiet!"Unfortunately he's right in my case!! Can't seem to find one over here inEurope yet to get a ride...Oh well... I'll just have to plan my vacation oneyear to coincide with Brodhead!For what it's worth though, he's got me re-considering "dusting off" oneHenry's best! Hard to beat the sound of a Model-A Ford! Hope the Belgianauthorities agree.Jim Wrightjgw(at)skynet.be-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A Radiator options
Original Posted By: Graham Hansen
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A Radiator options>Jim,>>I have news for you. I have a Continental A65/75 and I can't see in front>of me!! Especially with a passenger, but still flies with the nose high>enough to not be able to see well without one.>>Ted Brousseau,>Naples, FL>>>Does anyone have any information regarding placing the radiator on a Model>>A - Air Camper under the motor as opposed directly in front of thecockpit?>>>>This has been another reason I've been leaning towards an air-cooledversion>>as I tend to like to see in front! I tought I'd seen something about this>>before. Has anyone built one like this, and are there cooling problems?>>>>Jim Wright>>jgw(at)skynet.be>>>>>>>>>>________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A Radiator options>Jim,>>I have news for you. I have a Continental A65/75 and I can't see in front>of me!! Especially with a passenger, but still flies with the nose high>enough to not be able to see well without one.>>Ted Brousseau,>Naples, FL>>>Does anyone have any information regarding placing the radiator on a Model>>A - Air Camper under the motor as opposed directly in front of thecockpit?>>>>This has been another reason I've been leaning towards an air-cooledversion>>as I tend to like to see in front! I tought I'd seen something about this>>before. Has anyone built one like this, and are there cooling problems?>>>>Jim Wright>>jgw(at)skynet.be>>>>>>>>>>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A Radiator options
Original Posted By: Gary McArthur
TED, Do you have the chord angle rigged right?What speed are you getting? How did your weight and balance come out?A plane should not fly so nose high...>Jim,>>I have news for you. I have a Continental A65/75 and I can't see in front>of me!! Especially with a passenger, but still flies with the nose high>enough to not be able to see well without one.>>Ted Brousseau,>Naples, FL>>>Does anyone have any information regarding placing the radiator on a Model>>A - Air Camper under the motor as opposed directly in front of the cockpit?>>>>This has been another reason I've been leaning towards an air-cooled version>>as I tend to like to see in front! I tought I'd seen something about this>>before. Has anyone built one like this, and are there cooling problems?>>>>Jim Wright>>jgw(at)skynet.be>>>>>>>>>>________________________________________________________________________________
TED, Do you have the chord angle rigged right?What speed are you getting? How did your weight and balance come out?A plane should not fly so nose high...>Jim,>>I have news for you. I have a Continental A65/75 and I can't see in front>of me!! Especially with a passenger, but still flies with the nose high>enough to not be able to see well without one.>>Ted Brousseau,>Naples, FL>>>Does anyone have any information regarding placing the radiator on a Model>>A - Air Camper under the motor as opposed directly in front of the cockpit?>>>>This has been another reason I've been leaning towards an air-cooled version>>as I tend to like to see in front! I tought I'd seen something about this>>before. Has anyone built one like this, and are there cooling problems?>>>>Jim Wright>>jgw(at)skynet.be>>>>>>>>>>________________________________________________________________________________