Original Posted By: "Alan A. Laudani"
Im not sure where he got them, but Mr. Millet, in Windham, ME has very nice a/c wheels with brakes that were, if I remember correctly, around $75 each. I can find out if you like.Theres a picture of one here:http://www.wrld.com/w3builder/piet/acim ... jpgRichard> I've just finished the legs of my landing gear ready to fabricate the> axles.> But before I weld the 1 1/2" axles in place I thought I should probably get> the wheels first just to make sure that they needed that size of axle. I> think that I will use 6" wheels. Wow are the wheel and brake setups in Wicks> and Aircraft Spruce high or what? Will have more in wheel and tires than> airframe. Any of you guys have any other ideas. Tried to fine used 172> wheels but they are getting scarce.> Also the information and ideas on this chat line thing are really great.> Thanks alot. > > -----------------------------http://www.wrld.com/w3builderPietenpols, Electronic Music,Website Design, Stompilation________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: wheels
Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: rdecosta(at)autoeurope.com (Richard DeCosta)
Hi guys: I've just finished the legs of my landing gear ready to fabricate theaxles.But before I weld the 1 1/2" axles in place I thought I should probably getthe wheels first just to make sure that they needed that size of axle. Ithink that I will use 6" wheels. Wow are the wheel and brake setups in Wicksand Aircraft Spruce high or what? Will have more in wheel and tires thanairframe. Any of you guys have any other ideas. Tried to fine used 172wheels but they are getting scarce.Also the information and ideas on this chat line thing are really great.Thanks alot. ________________________________________________________________________________
Hi guys: I've just finished the legs of my landing gear ready to fabricate theaxles.But before I weld the 1 1/2" axles in place I thought I should probably getthe wheels first just to make sure that they needed that size of axle. Ithink that I will use 6" wheels. Wow are the wheel and brake setups in Wicksand Aircraft Spruce high or what? Will have more in wheel and tires thanairframe. Any of you guys have any other ideas. Tried to fine used 172wheels but they are getting scarce.Also the information and ideas on this chat line thing are really great.Thanks alot. ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: wheels
Original Posted By: Ian Holland
Rick: I got a pair of Goodyear wheels w/brakes from the Flymarket at Sun-N-Fun.The pair cost me $40.00 There were probably 15-20 more pair for the same price.There were all sorts of master cylinders for 5-20 bucks apiece also. I boughtretread tires from Hawkins Aircraft Tire Co. (1-800-321-9717) for about $25 eaand I forget what I paid for the tubes. These are the same wheels used on myErcoupe - not the greatest braking power in the world - but they do the job -besides the Pietenpol will be at least a couple of hundred pounds lighter...Gary...Rick Rager wrote:> Hi guys:> I've just finished the legs of my landing gear ready to fabricate the> axles.> But before I weld the 1 1/2" axles in place I thought I should probably get> the wheels first just to make sure that they needed that size of axle. I> think that I will use 6" wheels. Wow are the wheel and brake setups in Wicks> and Aircraft Spruce high or what? Will have more in wheel and tires than> airframe. Any of you guys have any other ideas. Tried to fine used 172> wheels but they are getting scarce.> Also the information and ideas on this chat line thing are really great.> Thanks alot.________________________________________________________________________________
Rick: I got a pair of Goodyear wheels w/brakes from the Flymarket at Sun-N-Fun.The pair cost me $40.00 There were probably 15-20 more pair for the same price.There were all sorts of master cylinders for 5-20 bucks apiece also. I boughtretread tires from Hawkins Aircraft Tire Co. (1-800-321-9717) for about $25 eaand I forget what I paid for the tubes. These are the same wheels used on myErcoupe - not the greatest braking power in the world - but they do the job -besides the Pietenpol will be at least a couple of hundred pounds lighter...Gary...Rick Rager wrote:> Hi guys:> I've just finished the legs of my landing gear ready to fabricate the> axles.> But before I weld the 1 1/2" axles in place I thought I should probably get> the wheels first just to make sure that they needed that size of axle. I> think that I will use 6" wheels. Wow are the wheel and brake setups in Wicks> and Aircraft Spruce high or what? Will have more in wheel and tires than> airframe. Any of you guys have any other ideas. Tried to fine used 172> wheels but they are getting scarce.> Also the information and ideas on this chat line thing are really great.> Thanks alot.________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: wheels
Original Posted By:> Richard DeCosta
Richard, I also would be interested in more information on thewhhels/brakes. I only got about a quarter band on the photo.It looks like awire wheel from what I could see. Can you supply address/phone number andresend picture? Thanks,-=Ian=-
Richard, I also would be interested in more information on thewhhels/brakes. I only got about a quarter band on the photo.It looks like awire wheel from what I could see. Can you supply address/phone number andresend picture? Thanks,-=Ian=-
Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: shad bell
Subject: Pietenpol-List: wheels>did the original wheels have bronze bushings that>slipped over the tubes shown in the plans? l'm sure>most of you are using ball or needle bearings now. but>I'm wondering if anybody has had experience with the>bronze bushings, to know how it effects takeoff roll.>I'm tossing around the idea of casting my own aluminum>8 inch wheels. possibly using a brake system off from>a motorcle or 4 wheeler. any thoughts on that? rather>than paying the 600-700 for a cleveland system. I have>an idea on how to build a testing stand to test the>strength of the wheel, but maybe somebody or some>company already has one. maybe this is the first cost>saving article for the IHA.>________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: wheels>did the original wheels have bronze bushings that>slipped over the tubes shown in the plans? l'm sure>most of you are using ball or needle bearings now. but>I'm wondering if anybody has had experience with the>bronze bushings, to know how it effects takeoff roll.>I'm tossing around the idea of casting my own aluminum>8 inch wheels. possibly using a brake system off from>a motorcle or 4 wheeler. any thoughts on that? rather>than paying the 600-700 for a cleveland system. I have>an idea on how to build a testing stand to test the>strength of the wheel, but maybe somebody or some>company already has one. maybe this is the first cost>saving article for the IHA.>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: Robert Klaffke
did the original wheels have bronze bushings thatslipped over the tubes shown in the plans? l'm suremost of you are using ball or needle bearings now. butI'm wondering if anybody has had experience with thebronze bushings, to know how it effects takeoff roll.I'm tossing around the idea of casting my own aluminum8 inch wheels. possibly using a brake system off froma motorcle or 4 wheeler. any thoughts on that? ratherthan paying the 600-700 for a cleveland system. I havean idea on how to build a testing stand to test thestrength of the wheel, but maybe somebody or somecompany already has one. maybe this is the first costsaving article for the IHA.________________________________________________________________________________
did the original wheels have bronze bushings thatslipped over the tubes shown in the plans? l'm suremost of you are using ball or needle bearings now. butI'm wondering if anybody has had experience with thebronze bushings, to know how it effects takeoff roll.I'm tossing around the idea of casting my own aluminum8 inch wheels. possibly using a brake system off froma motorcle or 4 wheeler. any thoughts on that? ratherthan paying the 600-700 for a cleveland system. I havean idea on how to build a testing stand to test thestrength of the wheel, but maybe somebody or somecompany already has one. maybe this is the first costsaving article for the IHA.________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: wheels
Original Posted By: del magsam
Del,Howard Henderson's wire wheels are bronze bushed. Bushings are an easysolution as they are available from any bearing house by dimension. Ibought a set myself. I haven't built the wheels yet.One cosideration is rotational speed. With the large diameter wirewheels, the bearing speeds are going to be quite slow. With smallerdiameter wheels and tires these speeds could be a lot higher. check itout.You should be able to find stock ball bearings to fit your axels atreasonable cost too. Then design your wheels around them.Lauren mailsorter-102-4.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-d/ms.dwm.v7+dul2)Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 04:51:43 -0700 (PDT)________________________________________________________________________________
Del,Howard Henderson's wire wheels are bronze bushed. Bushings are an easysolution as they are available from any bearing house by dimension. Ibought a set myself. I haven't built the wheels yet.One cosideration is rotational speed. With the large diameter wirewheels, the bearing speeds are going to be quite slow. With smallerdiameter wheels and tires these speeds could be a lot higher. check itout.You should be able to find stock ball bearings to fit your axels atreasonable cost too. Then design your wheels around them.Lauren mailsorter-102-4.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-d/ms.dwm.v7+dul2)Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 04:51:43 -0700 (PDT)________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: wheels
Original Posted By: del magsam
Dell, I used bronze bushings on a 1.5" 4130 straight axle. I honed thebushings to fit the axle with about 0.005' clearance. A smear of grease andit spins nicely. I expect to I will have to remove the wheels to regreaseoccasionaly. I had thought about seals to keep the grease from the brakesbut it probably is easier to just pull the wheel and wipe off the old andsmear on the new. The bearing area is more than sufficient and the speedsthe wheel rotates are low at Piet speeds with 21" rims. RPM of the smallerwheels will of course be higher. Haven't flown it yet so can't comment onthe rest.John Mc-----Original Message-----
Dell, I used bronze bushings on a 1.5" 4130 straight axle. I honed thebushings to fit the axle with about 0.005' clearance. A smear of grease andit spins nicely. I expect to I will have to remove the wheels to regreaseoccasionaly. I had thought about seals to keep the grease from the brakesbut it probably is easier to just pull the wheel and wipe off the old andsmear on the new. The bearing area is more than sufficient and the speedsthe wheel rotates are low at Piet speeds with 21" rims. RPM of the smallerwheels will of course be higher. Haven't flown it yet so can't comment onthe rest.John Mc-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: wheels
Original Posted By: Greg Cardinal
I'm using bronze oilite bushings on my straight axel.These are available in the correct size from McMaster-Carr for $ 1.50each.Greg Cardinal>>> del magsam 09/26 5:51 AM >>>did the original wheels have bronze bushings thatslipped over the tubes shown in the plans? l'm suremost of you are using ball or needle bearings now. butI'm wondering if anybody has had experience with thebronze bushings, to know how it effects takeoff roll.I'm tossing around the idea of casting my own aluminum8 inch wheels. possibly using a brake system off froma motorcle or 4 wheeler. any thoughts on that? ratherthan paying the 600-700 for a cleveland system. I havean idea on how to build a testing stand to test thestrength of the wheel, but maybe somebody or somecompany already has one. maybe this is the first costsaving article for the IHA.________________________________________________________________________________
I'm using bronze oilite bushings on my straight axel.These are available in the correct size from McMaster-Carr for $ 1.50each.Greg Cardinal>>> del magsam 09/26 5:51 AM >>>did the original wheels have bronze bushings thatslipped over the tubes shown in the plans? l'm suremost of you are using ball or needle bearings now. butI'm wondering if anybody has had experience with thebronze bushings, to know how it effects takeoff roll.I'm tossing around the idea of casting my own aluminum8 inch wheels. possibly using a brake system off froma motorcle or 4 wheeler. any thoughts on that? ratherthan paying the 600-700 for a cleveland system. I havean idea on how to build a testing stand to test thestrength of the wheel, but maybe somebody or somecompany already has one. maybe this is the first costsaving article for the IHA.________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: John Weikel
Subject: Pietenpol-List: wheels Does anyone know anything about Azusa aluminum wheels and Azusalitenylon wheels? What about JDM wheels and brakes?.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: wheels Does anyone know anything about Azusa aluminum wheels and Azusalitenylon wheels? What about JDM wheels and brakes?.________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: Earl Myers
Does anyone know anything about Azusa aluminum wheels and Azusalitenylon wheels? What about JDM wheels and brakes?.Does anyone know anything aboutAzusa aluminumwheels and Azusalite nylon wheels? What about JDM wheels andbrakes?.________________________________________________________________________________
Does anyone know anything about Azusa aluminum wheels and Azusalitenylon wheels? What about JDM wheels and brakes?.Does anyone know anything aboutAzusa aluminumwheels and Azusalite nylon wheels? What about JDM wheels andbrakes?.________________________________________________________________________________
> Re: wheels
Original Posted By: Rcaprd(at)aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wheels>I just bought two 19 inch motorcycyle wheels from the salvage>yard. I also bought a couple of brake calipers, I have taken>the bearings out of the wheels and could have the center of the>of the wheels machined to accept a bushing for my 1.5 inch axle>and use them as is. I am concerned about the side load issue>and would like to know if anyone has used motorcycle wheels>without the wide hubs and if so how they worked. Also if I do have>to make a new hub how wide does it need to be?>>----- Original Message ----->From: Lauren Williams >To: Pietenpol Discussion >Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 10:48 AM>Subject: Re: wheels>>>> Del,>>>> Howard Henderson's wire wheels are bronze bushed. Bushings are an easy>> solution as they are available from any bearing house by dimension. I>> bought a set myself. I haven't built the wheels yet.>>>> One cosideration is rotational speed. With the large diameter wire>> wheels, the bearing speeds are going to be quite slow. With smaller>> diameter wheels and tires these speeds could be a lot higher. check it>> out.>>>> You should be able to find stock ball bearings to fit your axels at>> reasonable cost too. Then design your wheels around them.>>>> Lauren>>>>>>________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wheels>I just bought two 19 inch motorcycyle wheels from the salvage>yard. I also bought a couple of brake calipers, I have taken>the bearings out of the wheels and could have the center of the>of the wheels machined to accept a bushing for my 1.5 inch axle>and use them as is. I am concerned about the side load issue>and would like to know if anyone has used motorcycle wheels>without the wide hubs and if so how they worked. Also if I do have>to make a new hub how wide does it need to be?>>----- Original Message ----->From: Lauren Williams >To: Pietenpol Discussion >Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 10:48 AM>Subject: Re: wheels>>>> Del,>>>> Howard Henderson's wire wheels are bronze bushed. Bushings are an easy>> solution as they are available from any bearing house by dimension. I>> bought a set myself. I haven't built the wheels yet.>>>> One cosideration is rotational speed. With the large diameter wire>> wheels, the bearing speeds are going to be quite slow. With smaller>> diameter wheels and tires these speeds could be a lot higher. check it>> out.>>>> You should be able to find stock ball bearings to fit your axels at>> reasonable cost too. Then design your wheels around them.>>>> Lauren>>>>>>________________________________________________________________________________
> Re: wheels
Original Posted By: BARNSTMR(at)aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wheels>I just bought two 19 inch motorcycyle wheels from the salvage>yard. I also bought a couple of brake calipers, I have taken>the bearings out of the wheels and could have the center of the>of the wheels machined to accept a bushing for my 1.5 inch axle>and use them as is. I am concerned about the side load issue>and would like to know if anyone has used motorcycle wheels>without the wide hubs and if so how they worked. Also if I do have>to make a new hub how wide does it need to be?>>----- Original Message ----->From: Lauren Williams >To: Pietenpol Discussion >Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 10:48 AM>Subject: Re: wheels>>>> Del,>>>> Howard Henderson's wire wheels are bronze bushed. Bushings are an easy>> solution as they are available from any bearing house by dimension. I>> bought a set myself. I haven't built the wheels yet.>>>> One cosideration is rotational speed. With the large diameter wire>> wheels, the bearing speeds are going to be quite slow. With smaller>> diameter wheels and tires these speeds could be a lot higher. check it>> out.>>>> You should be able to find stock ball bearings to fit your axels at>> reasonable cost too. Then design your wheels around them.>>>> Lauren>>>>>>________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wheels>I just bought two 19 inch motorcycyle wheels from the salvage>yard. I also bought a couple of brake calipers, I have taken>the bearings out of the wheels and could have the center of the>of the wheels machined to accept a bushing for my 1.5 inch axle>and use them as is. I am concerned about the side load issue>and would like to know if anyone has used motorcycle wheels>without the wide hubs and if so how they worked. Also if I do have>to make a new hub how wide does it need to be?>>----- Original Message ----->From: Lauren Williams >To: Pietenpol Discussion >Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 10:48 AM>Subject: Re: wheels>>>> Del,>>>> Howard Henderson's wire wheels are bronze bushed. Bushings are an easy>> solution as they are available from any bearing house by dimension. I>> bought a set myself. I haven't built the wheels yet.>>>> One cosideration is rotational speed. With the large diameter wire>> wheels, the bearing speeds are going to be quite slow. With smaller>> diameter wheels and tires these speeds could be a lot higher. check it>> out.>>>> You should be able to find stock ball bearings to fit your axels at>> reasonable cost too. Then design your wheels around them.>>>> Lauren>>>>>>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: wheels
Original Posted By: Gary Leopold
I am using AZUSA Aluminum wheels on my RW-6 (450 lbs gross) and so farhave no complaints. I am also using the external band go-kart brakesthat are made for these wheels and they work fine too... The airportowner where I keep my plane has a large cardboard box full of brokenAZUSALITE wheels. I put my AZUSALITE wheels on my tool box.John WKerrville, TxRW-6KR-2Sjandd(at)maverickbbs.com-----Original Message-----
I am using AZUSA Aluminum wheels on my RW-6 (450 lbs gross) and so farhave no complaints. I am also using the external band go-kart brakesthat are made for these wheels and they work fine too... The airportowner where I keep my plane has a large cardboard box full of brokenAZUSALITE wheels. I put my AZUSALITE wheels on my tool box.John WKerrville, TxRW-6KR-2Sjandd(at)maverickbbs.com-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: wheels
Original Posted By: Lauren Williams
I just bought two 19 inch motorcycyle wheels from the salvage yard. I also bought a couple of brake calipers, I have takenthe bearings out of the wheels and could have the center of theof the wheels machined to accept a bushing for my 1.5 inch axleand use them as is. I am concerned about the side load issueand would like to know if anyone has used motorcycle wheelswithout the wide hubs and if so how they worked. Also if I do haveto make a new hub how wide does it need to be? ----- Original Message ----- ________________________________________________________________________________
I just bought two 19 inch motorcycyle wheels from the salvage yard. I also bought a couple of brake calipers, I have takenthe bearings out of the wheels and could have the center of theof the wheels machined to accept a bushing for my 1.5 inch axleand use them as is. I am concerned about the side load issueand would like to know if anyone has used motorcycle wheelswithout the wide hubs and if so how they worked. Also if I do haveto make a new hub how wide does it need to be? ----- Original Message ----- ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: wheels
Original Posted By: F10DRVR
Jerry; There are numerous builders on this list using "stock" cycle hubs andtyres. If you land hard enough to bend these rims, you will have to worryabout other things you bent that cost more..........they all have the axlebushing put in as you described....go fly!!Earl Myers-----Original Message-----
Jerry; There are numerous builders on this list using "stock" cycle hubs andtyres. If you land hard enough to bend these rims, you will have to worryabout other things you bent that cost more..........they all have the axlebushing put in as you described....go fly!!Earl Myers-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: wheels
Original Posted By: F10DRVR
I used 21" aluminum rims and widened the hubs. I bored the hubs to take abronze bushing that also centers the width extension. I have aluminumspacers between the drum brake backing plate, ( bolted to a flange on theaxle,) and the wheel hub. The outer nut has a flange on it that takes up theendplay. I ended up with about 5 1/2" between the spoke flanges.John Mc-----Original Message-----
I used 21" aluminum rims and widened the hubs. I bored the hubs to take abronze bushing that also centers the width extension. I have aluminumspacers between the drum brake backing plate, ( bolted to a flange on theaxle,) and the wheel hub. The outer nut has a flange on it that takes up theendplay. I ended up with about 5 1/2" between the spoke flanges.John Mc-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By:> del magsam
Original wheels would have been wire wheels with no brakes. The originalplans call for 24x4 wire wheels (the rim is actually 16") This is what Ihave. The later "improved" plans show a 26x4 wheel (18" rim). Both wouldhave been used on the Curtiss Jenny, but the larger one was more common onthem. Wire wheels can either be covered with fabric or with aluminum"dishes" to streamline. Many airplanes from the '20s used large dishwheels, but they were aluminum, not sheet steel. These came in a varietyof sizes, with and without brakes. These are rare, expensive, and HEAVY. Not to mention, not original for a Piet. Many folks make their own wirewheels, and often add brakes. I know of one who took standard 6" wheelsand added a motorcycle rim and spokes. He has brakes and it lookssurprizingly good. Of course, many, many Piets have standard 6" wheels andlook great. Balloon tires make them look even better. Your choice. Gene----------
Original wheels would have been wire wheels with no brakes. The originalplans call for 24x4 wire wheels (the rim is actually 16") This is what Ihave. The later "improved" plans show a 26x4 wheel (18" rim). Both wouldhave been used on the Curtiss Jenny, but the larger one was more common onthem. Wire wheels can either be covered with fabric or with aluminum"dishes" to streamline. Many airplanes from the '20s used large dishwheels, but they were aluminum, not sheet steel. These came in a varietyof sizes, with and without brakes. These are rare, expensive, and HEAVY. Not to mention, not original for a Piet. Many folks make their own wirewheels, and often add brakes. I know of one who took standard 6" wheelsand added a motorcycle rim and spokes. He has brakes and it lookssurprizingly good. Of course, many, many Piets have standard 6" wheels andlook great. Balloon tires make them look even better. Your choice. Gene----------
Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: Borodent(at)aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: wheelsDel: The wheels are from Douglas wheels, inc.4040 Avenida De La Plata,Oceanside Ca. 92056 (760) 758-5560. They are 2 piece welded together.You have a choice of depth's in each half. I ordered 3'' front and 3''back for 6'' wide. In May I gave $112.40 plus s&h for the pair. Issue33 of BAPNews, 1991 ran an article called "light weight landing gear".If you don't have that issue, I could send you a copy if you send meyour address. Send direct to my e-mail if you want. Leon S.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: wheelsDel: The wheels are from Douglas wheels, inc.4040 Avenida De La Plata,Oceanside Ca. 92056 (760) 758-5560. They are 2 piece welded together.You have a choice of depth's in each half. I ordered 3'' front and 3''back for 6'' wide. In May I gave $112.40 plus s&h for the pair. Issue33 of BAPNews, 1991 ran an article called "light weight landing gear".If you don't have that issue, I could send you a copy if you send meyour address. Send direct to my e-mail if you want. Leon S.________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet Airfoil
Original Posted By: "Sylph"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet AirfoilWith regards to the airfoil shape, my plans (Hoopman) do not mention a plywood leading edge upper cover to the first spar. I saw in Mike Cuys video that he uses one. Am I missing something or is there another set of plans that call for this-- or is it just an accepted improvement? Whats the thinking on this- are most builders using the ply? Also would you slightly recess the profile to accomindate the thickness of this ply? Is it 1/16? Birch?Henry Williams (just setting up my rib jig )________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet AirfoilWith regards to the airfoil shape, my plans (Hoopman) do not mention a plywood leading edge upper cover to the first spar. I saw in Mike Cuys video that he uses one. Am I missing something or is there another set of plans that call for this-- or is it just an accepted improvement? Whats the thinking on this- are most builders using the ply? Also would you slightly recess the profile to accomindate the thickness of this ply? Is it 1/16? Birch?Henry Williams (just setting up my rib jig )________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet Airfoil
Original Posted By:
Henry,My plans are as follows:Drawing No. 5Wing Plan Date: 3-3-34Designed by: B. H. PietenpolDrawn By O.C. HoopmanIn the very top left corner of the page there is a 9" arc at the leadingedge with the following notation:"Cover leading edge of wing the entire lengthy with sheets of 6 ply hardcardboard or 1/16" plywood"Type of ply isn't referenced, but nearly any type would be an improvement oncardboard. I haven't considered this until now, so I haven't decided what Iwill do. My gut response is that I will make a choice in favor of weight,durability, and strength. Cardboard would probably last as long as bedsheets but, with the longer lasting fabrics most of us use today, it will bethere for quite a while. That said, I don't think I'll be going thecardboard route.MichaelStudying plans &Waiting on Vi Kapler's 3-piece wing drawings & materials from WicksPortland, OR----- Original Message -----
Henry,My plans are as follows:Drawing No. 5Wing Plan Date: 3-3-34Designed by: B. H. PietenpolDrawn By O.C. HoopmanIn the very top left corner of the page there is a 9" arc at the leadingedge with the following notation:"Cover leading edge of wing the entire lengthy with sheets of 6 ply hardcardboard or 1/16" plywood"Type of ply isn't referenced, but nearly any type would be an improvement oncardboard. I haven't considered this until now, so I haven't decided what Iwill do. My gut response is that I will make a choice in favor of weight,durability, and strength. Cardboard would probably last as long as bedsheets but, with the longer lasting fabrics most of us use today, it will bethere for quite a while. That said, I don't think I'll be going thecardboard route.MichaelStudying plans &Waiting on Vi Kapler's 3-piece wing drawings & materials from WicksPortland, OR----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: del magsam
Re: Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: Warren Shoun
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wheelsvM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP for ;>>To all:>>What is the conventional wisdom out there as far as which wheel set-up is>most appropriate for rough field use (split axle/small wheel, splitaxle/big>wheel, straight axle/big wheel)? Thanks.>>Mark Boynton>Gilbert, AZ>>>wrote:>>>>>> thanks leon, for sending the print of the wheel and>> hub. I'm not interested in spoked wheels and didn't>> want to use regular heavyweight,expensive aero wheels>> and asuza wheels are too light. and so the wheels from>> douglass seem exactly what I had in mind, their>> catalog is coming to me shortly.>> del>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:28:05 -0800
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wheelsvM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP for ;>>To all:>>What is the conventional wisdom out there as far as which wheel set-up is>most appropriate for rough field use (split axle/small wheel, splitaxle/big>wheel, straight axle/big wheel)? Thanks.>>Mark Boynton>Gilbert, AZ>>>wrote:>>>>>> thanks leon, for sending the print of the wheel and>> hub. I'm not interested in spoked wheels and didn't>> want to use regular heavyweight,expensive aero wheels>> and asuza wheels are too light. and so the wheels from>> douglass seem exactly what I had in mind, their>> catalog is coming to me shortly.>> del>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:28:05 -0800
Re: Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: "B and V Dearinger"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wheelsTo all:What is the conventional wisdom out there as far as which wheel set-up ismost appropriate for rough field use (split axle/small wheel, split axle/bigwheel, straight axle/big wheel)? Thanks.Mark BoyntonGilbert, AZwrote:> > thanks leon, for sending the print of the wheel and> hub. I'm not interested in spoked wheels and didn't> want to use regular heavyweight,expensive aero wheels> and asuza wheels are too light. and so the wheels from> douglass seem exactly what I had in mind, their> catalog is coming to me shortly.> del> > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wheelsTo all:What is the conventional wisdom out there as far as which wheel set-up ismost appropriate for rough field use (split axle/small wheel, split axle/bigwheel, straight axle/big wheel)? Thanks.Mark BoyntonGilbert, AZwrote:> > thanks leon, for sending the print of the wheel and> hub. I'm not interested in spoked wheels and didn't> want to use regular heavyweight,expensive aero wheels> and asuza wheels are too light. and so the wheels from> douglass seem exactly what I had in mind, their> catalog is coming to me shortly.> del> > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: mboynton(at)excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP
My favorite is cub style with 6 in cleveland wheels and disc brakes.Then youcan use 800 x 6 if it is real rough.Bill-----Original Message-----
My favorite is cub style with 6 in cleveland wheels and disc brakes.Then youcan use 800 x 6 if it is real rough.Bill-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: leonstefanhutks(at)webtv.net (Leon Stefan)
I have 8.00 x 4 balloon tires like the old Cubs. I've landed in roughfields all over Iowa and I would highly recommend the split gear. I usedsprings instead of bungees. They seem to work good.Copinfo(at)home.comTim CunninghamDes Moines, Iowa (515) 237-1510________________________________________________________________________________
I have 8.00 x 4 balloon tires like the old Cubs. I've landed in roughfields all over Iowa and I would highly recommend the split gear. I usedsprings instead of bungees. They seem to work good.Copinfo(at)home.comTim CunninghamDes Moines, Iowa (515) 237-1510________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: robin goodfellow
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wheelsDel,Could you tell me about Douglas and the catalog you are referring to in yourmessage? Thanks.Mark BoyntonGilbert, AZwrote:> > thanks leon, for sending the print of the wheel and> hub. I'm not interested in spoked wheels and didn't> want to use regular heavyweight,expensive aero wheels> and asuza wheels are too light. and so the wheels from> douglass seem exactly what I had in mind, their> catalog is coming to me shortly.> del> > > > > > > > > Visit Excite Shopping at http://shopping.excite.com The fastest way to find your Holiday gift this season________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:59:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wheelsDel,Could you tell me about Douglas and the catalog you are referring to in yourmessage? Thanks.Mark BoyntonGilbert, AZwrote:> > thanks leon, for sending the print of the wheel and> hub. I'm not interested in spoked wheels and didn't> want to use regular heavyweight,expensive aero wheels> and asuza wheels are too light. and so the wheels from> douglass seem exactly what I had in mind, their> catalog is coming to me shortly.> del> > > > > > > > > Visit Excite Shopping at http://shopping.excite.com The fastest way to find your Holiday gift this season________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:59:59 -0800 (PST)
Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: Doug413(at)aol.com
Ed,In my hometown airport, there is a guy that strips old 150s after they get wrecked by the SIU college students. His large hanger looks like a warehouse. I plan to check with him for items like that. What you may want to do is check you local airports for guys that do the same thing.Robert HainesMurphysboro, Illinois******Can anyone tell me if 6" X 6" Cleveland wheels are all basically thesame. The ones listed in the big bucks cataloges are 18 lbs for thealuminum set and 16 lbs for the Magnesium with the brakes. I thought Iwould look for a used set at Sun & Fun in April . Do I need to becareful , I mean did they make any of the older ones excessively heavyor are they all about the same. I'm almost finished with my 1933 stylesplit gear with bolt- on Cleveland alloy axels and I'm trying toduplicate the wheel/ tire size of the plans . If anyone knows of a nicepair for sale I,m lookin. Thanks in advance. Ed Grentzer Palm Harbor Fl.*******________________________________________________________________________________
Ed,In my hometown airport, there is a guy that strips old 150s after they get wrecked by the SIU college students. His large hanger looks like a warehouse. I plan to check with him for items like that. What you may want to do is check you local airports for guys that do the same thing.Robert HainesMurphysboro, Illinois******Can anyone tell me if 6" X 6" Cleveland wheels are all basically thesame. The ones listed in the big bucks cataloges are 18 lbs for thealuminum set and 16 lbs for the Magnesium with the brakes. I thought Iwould look for a used set at Sun & Fun in April . Do I need to becareful , I mean did they make any of the older ones excessively heavyor are they all about the same. I'm almost finished with my 1933 stylesplit gear with bolt- on Cleveland alloy axels and I'm trying toduplicate the wheel/ tire size of the plans . If anyone knows of a nicepair for sale I,m lookin. Thanks in advance. Ed Grentzer Palm Harbor Fl.*******________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: Doug413(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wheelsIn a message dated 2/21/01 6:37:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, robertsjunk(at)hotmail.com writes:> Can anyone tell me if 6" X 6" Cleveland wheels are all basically the> same. The ones listed in the big bucks cataloges are 18 lbs for the> aluminum set and 16 lbs for the Magnesium with the brakes. I thought I> would look for a used set at Sun & Fun in April . Do I need to be> careful , I mean did they make any of the older ones excessively heavy> or are they all about the same. I'm almost finished with my 1933 style> split gear with bolt- on Cleveland alloy axels and I'm trying to> duplicate the wheel/ tire size of the plans . If anyone knows of a nice> pair for sale I,m lookin. Thanks in advance.> > Ed Grentzer> Palm Harbor Fl.> > Ed,On my second aircamper I used old goodyear wheels, removed all the brake stuff and mounted 8.00 X 6 four ply tires from Wicks. This makes a nice light (13 lbs per side) and inexpensive wheel assembly which is close (not exact) to the plan size. It is the same overall size as on the two corvair aircraft built by BHP and a good many earlier ones. The plan actually calls for a 19X9 (or spoke type as the option) air wheel which these days would require a larger much heavier more rigid 6 ply tire. I know of one aircamper with these larger tires and it looks good but it is heavy. The old Good year wheels are available because of some owners of older aircraft prefering the cleveland brake which has cheaper parts. This is just one way to do the task, I'm sure there are a host of others. Doug Bryant Wichita Ks________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wheelsIn a message dated 2/21/01 6:37:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, robertsjunk(at)hotmail.com writes:> Can anyone tell me if 6" X 6" Cleveland wheels are all basically the> same. The ones listed in the big bucks cataloges are 18 lbs for the> aluminum set and 16 lbs for the Magnesium with the brakes. I thought I> would look for a used set at Sun & Fun in April . Do I need to be> careful , I mean did they make any of the older ones excessively heavy> or are they all about the same. I'm almost finished with my 1933 style> split gear with bolt- on Cleveland alloy axels and I'm trying to> duplicate the wheel/ tire size of the plans . If anyone knows of a nice> pair for sale I,m lookin. Thanks in advance.> > Ed Grentzer> Palm Harbor Fl.> > Ed,On my second aircamper I used old goodyear wheels, removed all the brake stuff and mounted 8.00 X 6 four ply tires from Wicks. This makes a nice light (13 lbs per side) and inexpensive wheel assembly which is close (not exact) to the plan size. It is the same overall size as on the two corvair aircraft built by BHP and a good many earlier ones. The plan actually calls for a 19X9 (or spoke type as the option) air wheel which these days would require a larger much heavier more rigid 6 ply tire. I know of one aircamper with these larger tires and it looks good but it is heavy. The old Good year wheels are available because of some owners of older aircraft prefering the cleveland brake which has cheaper parts. This is just one way to do the task, I'm sure there are a host of others. Doug Bryant Wichita Ks________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: leadng edge 8-32 bolts
Original Posted By: "ED GRENTZER"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: leadng edge 8-32 boltsIn a message dated 2/21/01 4:58:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, farmerdel(at)rocketmail.com writes:> I am installing the leading edge on my one piece wing> and was wondering the purpose of all of those bolts> called out. It seems like a good glue surface and then> the fabric clamps it into place. was it because> bernard didn't trust the glue that he had or is there> an underlying purpose that I can't see.> thanks > del > > Del,On the wings I have built, I found that bolts were easier for me than trying to get all 29 glue joints clamped and have confidence that none would move while the glue was setting. This could have also been quite a task with short pot life glues such as casein or other older material, however, in my opinion it could be done. The more I build and fly, the more amazed I am at how well they go together and perform just as drawn accounting for some substitutions for things which are not avilable any more. The design and methods implied on the plans just seem to be right (at least for me). Doug Byrant Wichita Ks________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: leadng edge 8-32 boltsIn a message dated 2/21/01 4:58:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, farmerdel(at)rocketmail.com writes:> I am installing the leading edge on my one piece wing> and was wondering the purpose of all of those bolts> called out. It seems like a good glue surface and then> the fabric clamps it into place. was it because> bernard didn't trust the glue that he had or is there> an underlying purpose that I can't see.> thanks > del > > Del,On the wings I have built, I found that bolts were easier for me than trying to get all 29 glue joints clamped and have confidence that none would move while the glue was setting. This could have also been quite a task with short pot life glues such as casein or other older material, however, in my opinion it could be done. The more I build and fly, the more amazed I am at how well they go together and perform just as drawn accounting for some substitutions for things which are not avilable any more. The design and methods implied on the plans just seem to be right (at least for me). Doug Byrant Wichita Ks________________________________________________________________________________
> Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: Christian Bobka
Thanks Robert I'll give that a try there are quite a few small aiports around here. Ed Grentzer>From: "Robert Haines" >Reply-To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: Pietenpol-List: wheels>Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:34:03>>>>Ed,>>In my hometown airport, there is a guy that strips old 150s after they get>wrecked by the SIU college students. His large hanger looks like a>warehouse. I plan to check with him for items like that. What you may >want>to do is check you local airports for guys that do the same thing.>>Robert Haines>Murphysboro, Illinois>>>******>Can anyone tell me if 6" X 6" Cleveland wheels are all basically the>same. The ones listed in the big bucks cataloges are 18 lbs for the>aluminum set and 16 lbs for the Magnesium with the brakes. I thought I>would look for a used set at Sun & Fun in April . Do I need to be>careful , I mean did they make any of the older ones excessively heavy>or are they all about the same. I'm almost finished with my 1933 style>split gear with bolt- on Cleveland alloy axels and I'm trying to>duplicate the wheel/ tire size of the plans . If anyone knows of a nice>pair for sale I,m lookin. Thanks in advance.>> Ed Grentzer> Palm Harbor Fl.>>*******>>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:26:04 -0500
Thanks Robert I'll give that a try there are quite a few small aiports around here. Ed Grentzer>From: "Robert Haines" >Reply-To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: Pietenpol-List: wheels>Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:34:03>>>>Ed,>>In my hometown airport, there is a guy that strips old 150s after they get>wrecked by the SIU college students. His large hanger looks like a>warehouse. I plan to check with him for items like that. What you may >want>to do is check you local airports for guys that do the same thing.>>Robert Haines>Murphysboro, Illinois>>>******>Can anyone tell me if 6" X 6" Cleveland wheels are all basically the>same. The ones listed in the big bucks cataloges are 18 lbs for the>aluminum set and 16 lbs for the Magnesium with the brakes. I thought I>would look for a used set at Sun & Fun in April . Do I need to be>careful , I mean did they make any of the older ones excessively heavy>or are they all about the same. I'm almost finished with my 1933 style>split gear with bolt- on Cleveland alloy axels and I'm trying to>duplicate the wheel/ tire size of the plans . If anyone knows of a nice>pair for sale I,m lookin. Thanks in advance.>> Ed Grentzer> Palm Harbor Fl.>>*******>>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:26:04 -0500
Re: Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: nle97(at)juno.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wheels
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Re: Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: Doug413(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wheelsIn a message dated 2/24/01 11:44:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, nle97(at)juno.com writes:> Doug,> You were wise to remove the old brake parts from the Goodyear > wheels. > These things were the standard equipment on nearly everything for years> and years and they worked quite well, but the biggest problem was that> the brake disc was designed to float in the wheel and engage on some> built-in splines on the wheel. Occasionally the disc would not set> straight and would bind causing the wheel to lock up, as disaster for a> taildragger.> This didn't happen often, but it could and has happened. I had one lock> up n me on a Bonanza a long time ago and I know of another mechanic who> had one do the same thing when a small peddle from a gravel runway got> caught in the brake on a Cessna 170 causing it to go over on its back. > Goodyear wheels are just fine without the brakes.> > John Langston> Pipe Creek, TX> nle97(at)juno.com> > > John,Thanks for the info. I machined off the brake flange. I put this type wheel on 2 aircampers here and spoke type on my first one. Doug Bryant________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wheelsIn a message dated 2/24/01 11:44:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, nle97(at)juno.com writes:> Doug,> You were wise to remove the old brake parts from the Goodyear > wheels. > These things were the standard equipment on nearly everything for years> and years and they worked quite well, but the biggest problem was that> the brake disc was designed to float in the wheel and engage on some> built-in splines on the wheel. Occasionally the disc would not set> straight and would bind causing the wheel to lock up, as disaster for a> taildragger.> This didn't happen often, but it could and has happened. I had one lock> up n me on a Bonanza a long time ago and I know of another mechanic who> had one do the same thing when a small peddle from a gravel runway got> caught in the brake on a Cessna 170 causing it to go over on its back. > Goodyear wheels are just fine without the brakes.> > John Langston> Pipe Creek, TX> nle97(at)juno.com> > > John,Thanks for the info. I machined off the brake flange. I put this type wheel on 2 aircampers here and spoke type on my first one. Doug Bryant________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: "Mike Bell"
Has anyone used the Azusa wheels and brakes ? Mark________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wheels
Has anyone used the Azusa wheels and brakes ? Mark________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wheels
owner-pietenpol-list-server@mat Pietenpol-List:
Original Posted By: "Warren D. Shoun"
03/02/2001 10:22:40 AMCheck the archives. There are some comments on some of these not touse and some that you may want to try.Mike "Mckellars" To: Sent by: cc: owner-pietenpol-list-server@mat Subject: Pietenpol-List:wheels ronics.com 03/02/2001 10:07 AM Please respond to pietenpol-list Has anyone used the Azusa wheels and brakes ? Mark________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:53:25 -0800
03/02/2001 10:22:40 AMCheck the archives. There are some comments on some of these not touse and some that you may want to try.Mike "Mckellars" To: Sent by: cc: owner-pietenpol-list-server@mat Subject: Pietenpol-List:wheels ronics.com 03/02/2001 10:07 AM Please respond to pietenpol-list Has anyone used the Azusa wheels and brakes ? Mark________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:53:25 -0800
Re: Pietenpol-List: Fairlead material
Original Posted By: "William C. Beerman"
I found a wealth of mat'l at SEARS HARDWARE STORES. They are a Sears store,but only stuff like Home Depot or 84 Lumber stuff. They have the biggestdisplay of the most unusual gadgetry I've ever seen. Found nylon"bushings" I guess you'd call them. 1/2" OD about 1" lg with various sizeID's If you have a lathe , you can cut a shoulder on them,, ,,,or what Idid was to cut or file ( put a screw through them and spin them in the drillpress) circular grooves near the center. Since T-88 won't stick to nylon (Ithink) , when glued in ,the glue will grab the rings and can't slide out.Think cost was about $.50 ea.walt---------------------------------------------------------- Original Message -----
I found a wealth of mat'l at SEARS HARDWARE STORES. They are a Sears store,but only stuff like Home Depot or 84 Lumber stuff. They have the biggestdisplay of the most unusual gadgetry I've ever seen. Found nylon"bushings" I guess you'd call them. 1/2" OD about 1" lg with various sizeID's If you have a lathe , you can cut a shoulder on them,, ,,,or what Idid was to cut or file ( put a screw through them and spin them in the drillpress) circular grooves near the center. Since T-88 won't stick to nylon (Ithink) , when glued in ,the glue will grab the rings and can't slide out.Think cost was about $.50 ea.walt---------------------------------------------------------- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Fairlead material
Original Posted By: "walter evans"
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Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: clif
Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: "Chad and Susan Johnson"
To thoes of you using motorcycle wheels: are you using the braking system thetcame with the wheels? If so, how do you set-up the brakes when one wheel turnsin a normal direction and the other is turning in reverse? Thanks for the help.________________________________________________________________________________
To thoes of you using motorcycle wheels: are you using the braking system thetcame with the wheels? If so, how do you set-up the brakes when one wheel turnsin a normal direction and the other is turning in reverse? Thanks for the help.________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: "A. Moll"
I hate to jump in here to quickly because I'm Not finished with the brakehook up. I have Yahama 650 wheels and went with the front rotors but I'mhaving them milled down to fit a go kart caliper. The rotor is solid so itisn't directional.Dick----- Original Message -----
I hate to jump in here to quickly because I'm Not finished with the brakehook up. I have Yahama 650 wheels and went with the front rotors but I'mhaving them milled down to fit a go kart caliper. The rotor is solid so itisn't directional.Dick----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: "A. Moll"
I used motorcycle rims with hubs that I fabricated. Then used go kartbrakes, which were very reasonable in price, and not too hard to add to thehubs. Some thought that they wouldn't be enough, but they hold fine duringrunup, and with all the horror stories about nosing over braking duringrollout, these are just what the doctor ordered for me.walt evans----- Original Message -----
I used motorcycle rims with hubs that I fabricated. Then used go kartbrakes, which were very reasonable in price, and not too hard to add to thehubs. Some thought that they wouldn't be enough, but they hold fine duringrunup, and with all the horror stories about nosing over braking duringrollout, these are just what the doctor ordered for me.walt evans----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: "A. Moll"
I also have 650 yamaha's and what I did was run one cable and bracket fromthe rear of the landing gear and the otherfrom the front. I use the original shoe brakes and the cam lever on thebrake hub. They are mechanical and won'tstop on a dime but will hold the plane for turning on tight strips.Carl----- Original Message -----
I also have 650 yamaha's and what I did was run one cable and bracket fromthe rear of the landing gear and the otherfrom the front. I use the original shoe brakes and the cam lever on thebrake hub. They are mechanical and won'tstop on a dime but will hold the plane for turning on tight strips.Carl----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: Ken Rickards
I am assuming you have drum brakes. If so the cam will spread the shoes withleft or right rotation. I made my own cable attachments and simplyrepositioned the levers to both pull the same way. If there is only one shoeactuator then the braking will be even. "Single leading shoe".If it is a drum brake with two actuator and a link between them then thewheel running in reverse will not have the same braking power. "Doubleleading shoe" was a big improvement in motorcycle drum brakes but didn'thold worth a dam going backwards. But then again a bike isn't likely to dothat.John McTo thoes of you using motorcycle wheels: are you using the braking systemthet came with the wheels? If so, how do you set-up the brakes when onewheel turns in a normal direction and the other is turning in reverse?Thanks for the help.________________________________________________________________________________
I am assuming you have drum brakes. If so the cam will spread the shoes withleft or right rotation. I made my own cable attachments and simplyrepositioned the levers to both pull the same way. If there is only one shoeactuator then the braking will be even. "Single leading shoe".If it is a drum brake with two actuator and a link between them then thewheel running in reverse will not have the same braking power. "Doubleleading shoe" was a big improvement in motorcycle drum brakes but didn'thold worth a dam going backwards. But then again a bike isn't likely to dothat.John McTo thoes of you using motorcycle wheels: are you using the braking systemthet came with the wheels? If so, how do you set-up the brakes when onewheel turns in a normal direction and the other is turning in reverse?Thanks for the help.________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: Ryan Michals
Spoked WheelsFellow membersWe are looking for the manufacturer/supplier/owner of the wheels found onthe Sugar River Piet, which we located on the West Coast Piet website.Any contact info would be appreciatedBlue skiescaptmarcus________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:16:12 -0800 (PST)
Spoked WheelsFellow membersWe are looking for the manufacturer/supplier/owner of the wheels found onthe Sugar River Piet, which we located on the West Coast Piet website.Any contact info would be appreciatedBlue skiescaptmarcus________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:16:12 -0800 (PST)
Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: Rick Schreiber
Jake SchultzIn answer to your question the wheels are 21 inch stainless steel with stainless spokes. My son made the hubs 6 inches wide stainless steel with stainless rotors. The overall diameter of the tires is 27 inches.Things are starting to come together and look like a pietenpol. It's beem about 20 months since we started. Bob________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:36:00 -0500
Jake SchultzIn answer to your question the wheels are 21 inch stainless steel with stainless spokes. My son made the hubs 6 inches wide stainless steel with stainless rotors. The overall diameter of the tires is 27 inches.Things are starting to come together and look like a pietenpol. It's beem about 20 months since we started. Bob________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:36:00 -0500
Pietenpol-List: Re: wheels
Original Posted By: "John Francis"
Jim,IF he needs new wheels I have two 21" alloy Sun rims (from Buchannans) withtwo smooth shaved motorcycle tires he can have, though I doubt his werehurt.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wheels
Jim,IF he needs new wheels I have two 21" alloy Sun rims (from Buchannans) withtwo smooth shaved motorcycle tires he can have, though I doubt his werehurt.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wheels
Original Posted By: Oscar Zuniga
Douwe,Please contact me via email at mrkringles(at)msn.comThanks,John--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Douwe,Please contact me via email at mrkringles(at)msn.comThanks,John--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: wheels
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
Hey guys,I am in need of a set of either: 1. Shinn 6.00X6 wheels for 1 =BD=94 straightaxles. Or: 2. Cleveland 6.00X6=94 DHB or DMB wheels along with themechanical brakes. If these are collecting dust on your shelves pleasecontact me off the list!Tailwinds!JMG________________________________________________________________________________
Hey guys,I am in need of a set of either: 1. Shinn 6.00X6 wheels for 1 =BD=94 straightaxles. Or: 2. Cleveland 6.00X6=94 DHB or DMB wheels along with themechanical brakes. If these are collecting dust on your shelves pleasecontact me off the list!Tailwinds!JMG________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Spitfire Recon footage/documentary film
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Thanks for passing this along! Very touching, a very personal view of history...ofaviation.Thanks,Ray Krause Sent from my iPadOn Aug 6, 2013, at 5:50 AM, "randycary" wrote:> > Check this out. Enjoyable> Randy Cary> http://www.youtube.com/embed/ie3SrjLlcUY> > --------> randy cary> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 039#406039> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Thanks for passing this along! Very touching, a very personal view of history...ofaviation.Thanks,Ray Krause Sent from my iPadOn Aug 6, 2013, at 5:50 AM, "randycary" wrote:> > Check this out. Enjoyable> Randy Cary> http://www.youtube.com/embed/ie3SrjLlcUY> > --------> randy cary> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 039#406039> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Moving the wing back
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Joe,You are thinking right. Leather patches can cover a host of sins! Be verywary of a rearward CG. I would suggest that you plan on doing your own W&B,during the time you are moving the wing. 1 or 2 inches may not be enough,and you may as well make it right, while you're at it. Personally, I thinkslanting the cabanes back give it a faster look...at least like 70 -75mph!!Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----
Joe,You are thinking right. Leather patches can cover a host of sins! Be verywary of a rearward CG. I would suggest that you plan on doing your own W&B,during the time you are moving the wing. 1 or 2 inches may not be enough,and you may as well make it right, while you're at it. Personally, I thinkslanting the cabanes back give it a faster look...at least like 70 -75mph!!Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----