Original Posted By: Earl Myers
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A stitch in time>Dear List,>> How far apart did some of you stitch your wing ribs? I've watched>some of the "Pitts" being stitched about an inch apart........I'm not>sure the performance of a Piet requires them to be so close together.>And how about the tail feathers also?>>Dannymac>>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: A stitch in time
Pietenpol-List: A stitch in time
Original Posted By: Richard DeCosta
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A stitch in time>Dear List,>> How far apart did some of you stitch your wing ribs? I've watched>some of the "Pitts" being stitched about an inch apart........I'm not>sure the performance of a Piet requires them to be so close together.>And how about the tail feathers also?>>Dannymac>________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A stitch in time>Dear List,>> How far apart did some of you stitch your wing ribs? I've watched>some of the "Pitts" being stitched about an inch apart........I'm not>sure the performance of a Piet requires them to be so close together.>And how about the tail feathers also?>>Dannymac>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: A stitch in time
Original Posted By: Ted Brousseau
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A stitch in time>Dear List,>> How far apart did some of you stitch your wing ribs? I've watched>some of the "Pitts" being stitched about an inch apart........I'm not>sure the performance of a Piet requires them to be so close together.>And how about the tail feathers also?>>Dannymac>________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A stitch in time>Dear List,>> How far apart did some of you stitch your wing ribs? I've watched>some of the "Pitts" being stitched about an inch apart........I'm not>sure the performance of a Piet requires them to be so close together.>And how about the tail feathers also?>>Dannymac>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: A stitch in time
Original Posted By:>> dannymac
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A stitch in time>Earl, Any airplane with a Vne over about 230/240 will have 1" spacing. MyHoward>has 2" spacing along the fuselage and tail surfaces with a Vne of 270.Fuselage>and empennage can have spacing twice that of the wing.>>Earl Myers wrote:>>> Dmac;>> I think the speed range of the Piet permits the widest gap betweenstitches>> at 3-1/2" unless those stitches are in the prop slipstream. Then it is>> reduced to 2-1/2". This info is in the Stits Manual and CAM 18 Manuals.Need>> to double check tho. Nowhere on any plane would you need stitches 1"apart>> unless it is the Haboo..........>> Earl Myers>> -----Original Message-----
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A stitch in time>Earl, Any airplane with a Vne over about 230/240 will have 1" spacing. MyHoward>has 2" spacing along the fuselage and tail surfaces with a Vne of 270.Fuselage>and empennage can have spacing twice that of the wing.>>Earl Myers wrote:>>> Dmac;>> I think the speed range of the Piet permits the widest gap betweenstitches>> at 3-1/2" unless those stitches are in the prop slipstream. Then it is>> reduced to 2-1/2". This info is in the Stits Manual and CAM 18 Manuals.Need>> to double check tho. Nowhere on any plane would you need stitches 1"apart>> unless it is the Haboo..........>> Earl Myers>> -----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: A stitch in time
Original Posted By: Richard DeCosta
Dear List, How far apart did some of you stitch your wing ribs? I've watchedsome of the "Pitts" being stitched about an inch apart........I'm notsure the performance of a Piet requires them to be so close together.And how about the tail feathers also?Dannymac________________________________________________________________________________
Dear List, How far apart did some of you stitch your wing ribs? I've watchedsome of the "Pitts" being stitched about an inch apart........I'm notsure the performance of a Piet requires them to be so close together.And how about the tail feathers also?Dannymac________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: A stitch in time
Original Posted By: Earl Myers
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A stitch in time>AC 43.13-1B has the specs for rib stitching! On the Piet, they should be>3.5" outside the slipstream and 2.5" inside the slipstream. The>slipstream is defined as that area of the wing inside the prop diameter>plus one rib bay.>>dannymac wrote:>>> Dear List,>>>> How far apart did some of you stitch your wing ribs? I've watched>> some of the "Pitts" being stitched about an inch apart........I'm not>> sure the performance of a Piet requires them to be so close together.>> And how about the tail feathers also?>>>> Dannymac>>>-->**>>David B.Schober, CPE>Instructor, Aviation Maintenance>Fairmont State College>National Aerospace Education Center>1050 East Benedum Industrial Drive>Bridgeport, WV 26330-9503>(304) 842-8300>>________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A stitch in time>AC 43.13-1B has the specs for rib stitching! On the Piet, they should be>3.5" outside the slipstream and 2.5" inside the slipstream. The>slipstream is defined as that area of the wing inside the prop diameter>plus one rib bay.>>dannymac wrote:>>> Dear List,>>>> How far apart did some of you stitch your wing ribs? I've watched>> some of the "Pitts" being stitched about an inch apart........I'm not>> sure the performance of a Piet requires them to be so close together.>> And how about the tail feathers also?>>>> Dannymac>>>-->**>>David B.Schober, CPE>Instructor, Aviation Maintenance>Fairmont State College>National Aerospace Education Center>1050 East Benedum Industrial Drive>Bridgeport, WV 26330-9503>(304) 842-8300>>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: A stitch in time
Original Posted By: Earl Myers
AC 43.13-1B has the specs for rib stitching! On the Piet, they should be3.5" outside the slipstream and 2.5" inside the slipstream. Theslipstream is defined as that area of the wing inside the prop diameterplus one rib bay.dannymac wrote:> Dear List,>> How far apart did some of you stitch your wing ribs? I've watched> some of the "Pitts" being stitched about an inch apart........I'm not> sure the performance of a Piet requires them to be so close together.> And how about the tail feathers also?>> Dannymac--David B.Schober, CPEInstructor, Aviation MaintenanceFairmont State CollegeNational Aerospace Education Center1050 East Benedum Industrial DriveBridgeport, WV 26330-9503(304) 842-8300________________________________________________________________________________
AC 43.13-1B has the specs for rib stitching! On the Piet, they should be3.5" outside the slipstream and 2.5" inside the slipstream. Theslipstream is defined as that area of the wing inside the prop diameterplus one rib bay.dannymac wrote:> Dear List,>> How far apart did some of you stitch your wing ribs? I've watched> some of the "Pitts" being stitched about an inch apart........I'm not> sure the performance of a Piet requires them to be so close together.> And how about the tail feathers also?>> Dannymac--David B.Schober, CPEInstructor, Aviation MaintenanceFairmont State CollegeNational Aerospace Education Center1050 East Benedum Industrial DriveBridgeport, WV 26330-9503(304) 842-8300________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: A stitch in time
Original Posted By: dannymac
Dmac; I think the speed range of the Piet permits the widest gap between stitchesat 3-1/2" unless those stitches are in the prop slipstream. Then it isreduced to 2-1/2". This info is in the Stits Manual and CAM 18 Manuals. Needto double check tho. Nowhere on any plane would you need stitches 1" apartunless it is the Haboo..........Earl Myers-----Original Message-----
Dmac; I think the speed range of the Piet permits the widest gap between stitchesat 3-1/2" unless those stitches are in the prop slipstream. Then it isreduced to 2-1/2". This info is in the Stits Manual and CAM 18 Manuals. Needto double check tho. Nowhere on any plane would you need stitches 1" apartunless it is the Haboo..........Earl Myers-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: A stitch in time
Original Posted By: David B. Schober
Dmac; Here is THE correct answer with the newer Manual names......-----Original Message-----
Dmac; Here is THE correct answer with the newer Manual names......-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: A stitch in time
Original Posted By:> dannymac
Earl, Any airplane with a Vne over about 230/240 will have 1" spacing. My Howardhas 2" spacing along the fuselage and tail surfaces with a Vne of 270. Fuselageand empennage can have spacing twice that of the wing.Earl Myers wrote:> Dmac;> I think the speed range of the Piet permits the widest gap between stitches> at 3-1/2" unless those stitches are in the prop slipstream. Then it is> reduced to 2-1/2". This info is in the Stits Manual and CAM 18 Manuals. Need> to double check tho. Nowhere on any plane would you need stitches 1" apart> unless it is the Haboo..........> Earl Myers> -----Original Message-----
Earl, Any airplane with a Vne over about 230/240 will have 1" spacing. My Howardhas 2" spacing along the fuselage and tail surfaces with a Vne of 270. Fuselageand empennage can have spacing twice that of the wing.Earl Myers wrote:> Dmac;> I think the speed range of the Piet permits the widest gap between stitches> at 3-1/2" unless those stitches are in the prop slipstream. Then it is> reduced to 2-1/2". This info is in the Stits Manual and CAM 18 Manuals. Need> to double check tho. Nowhere on any plane would you need stitches 1" apart> unless it is the Haboo..........> Earl Myers> -----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Fw: A stitch in time
Original Posted By: dannymac
Dannymac, I had done my Fisher 3" outside and 2" inside propwash area. Think thebook calls for " the prop wash distance, and to the next full rib".I used a trick I saw somewhere, that worked great...get a piece of "white elastic garter" the kind you would get at the sewingstore. about 3/8 or 1/2" wide by about 6ft. lg and put marks every 1 3/4" orso. Then on innermost rib to get wide spacing, and tip rib, mark wherefront and rear stitch will be ,and lay end mark of garter on front andstretch garter to rear mark. now stretch garter till you get the spacing youwant. you always get even spacing. Mark this rib and tip rib. Then doprop wash area with closer spacing. Snap chalk lines, and you're ready tostitchWalt Evans-----Original Message-----
Dannymac, I had done my Fisher 3" outside and 2" inside propwash area. Think thebook calls for " the prop wash distance, and to the next full rib".I used a trick I saw somewhere, that worked great...get a piece of "white elastic garter" the kind you would get at the sewingstore. about 3/8 or 1/2" wide by about 6ft. lg and put marks every 1 3/4" orso. Then on innermost rib to get wide spacing, and tip rib, mark wherefront and rear stitch will be ,and lay end mark of garter on front andstretch garter to rear mark. now stretch garter till you get the spacing youwant. you always get even spacing. Mark this rib and tip rib. Then doprop wash area with closer spacing. Snap chalk lines, and you're ready tostitchWalt Evans-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: A stitch in time
Original Posted By: David B. Schober
Dave; Yup, you are right, just didn't read that far. Don't own anything that goesthat fast except my wife.........Earl Myers-----Original Message-----
Dave; Yup, you are right, just didn't read that far. Don't own anything that goesthat fast except my wife.........Earl Myers-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: A stitch in time
Original Posted By:> David B. Schober
Thanks much Guys, I haven't received anything on the stitching process till now andplan to learn-up well before the time comes. UPDATE All the center section wood is cut and waiting for fittings beforeassembly, so I decided to begin laying out the tail. I was able to makeseveral joints framing in the rudder in between calls today. Richard:I'll have photos soon now that there is something besides ribs to share.DannymacEarl Myers wrote:> > Dave;> Yup, you are right, just didn't read that far. Don't own anything that goes> that fast except my wife.........> Earl Myers> -----Original Message-----
Thanks much Guys, I haven't received anything on the stitching process till now andplan to learn-up well before the time comes. UPDATE All the center section wood is cut and waiting for fittings beforeassembly, so I decided to begin laying out the tail. I was able to makeseveral joints framing in the rudder in between calls today. Richard:I'll have photos soon now that there is something besides ribs to share.DannymacEarl Myers wrote:> > Dave;> Yup, you are right, just didn't read that far. Don't own anything that goes> that fast except my wife.........> Earl Myers> -----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: A stitch in time
Original Posted By:> dannymac
2.5 inchesDoug
2.5 inchesDoug
Pietenpol-List: Re: A stitch in time
Original Posted By:> > dannymac
Thanks Doug from DannymacDoug wrote:> > 2.5 inches> Doug> > ----------
Thanks Doug from DannymacDoug wrote:> > 2.5 inches> Doug> > ----------
Pietenpol-List: Re: A stitch in time
Original Posted By:> > dannymac
Doug wrote:> > 2.5 inches> Doug> > ----------
Doug wrote:> > 2.5 inches> Doug> > ----------
> A stitch in time
Original Posted By: Alan Laudani
> Subject: A stitch in time>> >Dear List,> >> > How far apart did some of you stitch your wing ribs? I've watched> >some of the "Pitts" being stitched about an inch apart........I'm not> >sure the performance of a Piet requires them to be so close together.> >And how about the tail feathers also?> >> >Dannymac> >> >--David B.Schober, CPEInstructor, Aviation MaintenanceFairmont State CollegeNational Aerospace Education Center1050 East Benedum Industrial DriveBridgeport, WV 26330-9503(304) 842-8300________________________________________________________________________________
> Subject: A stitch in time>> >Dear List,> >> > How far apart did some of you stitch your wing ribs? I've watched> >some of the "Pitts" being stitched about an inch apart........I'm not> >sure the performance of a Piet requires them to be so close together.> >And how about the tail feathers also?> >> >Dannymac> >> >--David B.Schober, CPEInstructor, Aviation MaintenanceFairmont State CollegeNational Aerospace Education Center1050 East Benedum Industrial DriveBridgeport, WV 26330-9503(304) 842-8300________________________________________________________________________________
>> A stitch in time
Original Posted By: dannymac
>> Subject: A stitch in time>>>> >Dear List,>> >>> > How far apart did some of you stitch your wing ribs? I've watched>> >some of the "Pitts" being stitched about an inch apart........I'm not>> >sure the performance of a Piet requires them to be so close together.>> >And how about the tail feathers also?>> >>> >Dannymac>> >>> >>>>-->**>David B.Schober, CPE>Instructor, Aviation Maintenance>Fairmont State College>National Aerospace Education Center>1050 East Benedum Industrial Drive>Bridgeport, WV 26330-9503>(304) 842-8300>>________________________________________________________________________________
>> Subject: A stitch in time>>>> >Dear List,>> >>> > How far apart did some of you stitch your wing ribs? I've watched>> >some of the "Pitts" being stitched about an inch apart........I'm not>> >sure the performance of a Piet requires them to be so close together.>> >And how about the tail feathers also?>> >>> >Dannymac>> >>> >>>>-->**>David B.Schober, CPE>Instructor, Aviation Maintenance>Fairmont State College>National Aerospace Education Center>1050 East Benedum Industrial Drive>Bridgeport, WV 26330-9503>(304) 842-8300>>________________________________________________________________________________
> Re: A stitch in time
Original Posted By: Christopher Gregersen
> Subject: Re: A stitch in time> > >Earl, Any airplane with a Vne over about 230/240 will have 1" spacing. My> Howard> >has 2" spacing along the fuselage and tail surfaces with a Vne of 270.> Fuselage> >and empennage can have spacing twice that of the wing.> >> >Earl Myers wrote:> >> >> Dmac;> >> I think the speed range of the Piet permits the widest gap between> stitches> >> at 3-1/2" unless those stitches are in the prop slipstream. Then it is> >> reduced to 2-1/2". This info is in the Stits Manual and CAM 18 Manuals.> Need> >> to double check tho. Nowhere on any plane would you need stitches 1"> apart> >> unless it is the Haboo..........> >> Earl Myers________________________________________________________________________________
> Subject: Re: A stitch in time> > >Earl, Any airplane with a Vne over about 230/240 will have 1" spacing. My> Howard> >has 2" spacing along the fuselage and tail surfaces with a Vne of 270.> Fuselage> >and empennage can have spacing twice that of the wing.> >> >Earl Myers wrote:> >> >> Dmac;> >> I think the speed range of the Piet permits the widest gap between> stitches> >> at 3-1/2" unless those stitches are in the prop slipstream. Then it is> >> reduced to 2-1/2". This info is in the Stits Manual and CAM 18 Manuals.> Need> >> to double check tho. Nowhere on any plane would you need stitches 1"> apart> >> unless it is the Haboo..........> >> Earl Myers________________________________________________________________________________
> A stitch in time
Original Posted By: dannymac
> > Dear List,> > How far apart did some of you stitch your wing ribs? I've watched> some of the "Pitts" being stitched about an inch apart........I'm not> sure the performance of a Piet requires them to be so close together.> And how about the tail feathers also?> > Dannymac________________________________________________________________________________
> > Dear List,> > How far apart did some of you stitch your wing ribs? I've watched> some of the "Pitts" being stitched about an inch apart........I'm not> sure the performance of a Piet requires them to be so close together.> And how about the tail feathers also?> > Dannymac________________________________________________________________________________
> > A stitch in time
Original Posted By: dannymac
> >> > Dear List,> >> > How far apart did some of you stitch your wing ribs? I've> watched> > some of the "Pitts" being stitched about an inch apart........I'm> not> > sure the performance of a Piet requires them to be so close> together.> > And how about the tail feathers also?> >> > Dannymac________________________________________________________________________________
> >> > Dear List,> >> > How far apart did some of you stitch your wing ribs? I've> watched> > some of the "Pitts" being stitched about an inch apart........I'm> not> > sure the performance of a Piet requires them to be so close> together.> > And how about the tail feathers also?> >> > Dannymac________________________________________________________________________________
> > A stitch in time
Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
> >> > Dear List,Thanks Doug from Dannymac> >> > How far apart did some of you stitch your wing ribs? I've> watched> > some of the "Pitts" being stitched about an inch apart........I'm> not> > sure the performance of a Piet requires them to be so close> together.> > And how about the tail feathers also?> >> > Dannymac________________________________________________________________________________
> >> > Dear List,Thanks Doug from Dannymac> >> > How far apart did some of you stitch your wing ribs? I've> watched> > some of the "Pitts" being stitched about an inch apart........I'm> not> > sure the performance of a Piet requires them to be so close> together.> > And how about the tail feathers also?> >> > Dannymac________________________________________________________________________________