Original Posted By: Replicraft(at)aol.com
I haven't recieved any mail from the Piet list since my most recentposting last night.... just testing. H.W.________________________________________________________________________________
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wing const. knots to it
Original Posted By: fishin
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wing const. knots to itJoe-I have built Piet ribs as you describe, with the extra uprights as per plans (tip rib) and 1/16 ply on the outside only....haven't had any complaints.Steve________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 17:17:53 -0600
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wing const. knots to itJoe-I have built Piet ribs as you describe, with the extra uprights as per plans (tip rib) and 1/16 ply on the outside only....haven't had any complaints.Steve________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 17:17:53 -0600
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Original Posted By:> Craig Hiers [SMTP:"craig-rv4"@http:/www.worldnet.att.net]
Hi Craig,Welcome to the wonderful world of Pietenpols! Time to build is probablyaround 1200 hours or so, depending on how much time you spend doing thingsover. I have completed my wing and have about 330 hours in it. I expect(and hope) I'm about 30% complete with the project. Costs can vary greatly,depending on engine and materials. I'm building mine with all "aircraftgrade" materials and a Continental A-65 engine and expect my total cost tobe somewhere around $7500 to $8,000. You can build it for much less -perhaps as low as $4,000 if you use lumberyard wood and hardware storehardware and are real good at scrounging.One of the real joys of this design is that the plans are somewhatincomplete, and the design lends itself well to "tinkering", with the resultthat no two Pietenpols are ever exactly alike - even the ones built byBernard himself. The plans leave some room for "individual expression".The plane flies very well, with good performance for this type of airplane.I haven't flown a Ford powered Piet, but the Continental powered versionsperform very similarly to a J-3 Cub, but better. It will get off the groundin less distance than your RV-4, and will likely attract at least as muchattention on the ramp. Jack Phillips> -----Original Message-----
Hi Craig,Welcome to the wonderful world of Pietenpols! Time to build is probablyaround 1200 hours or so, depending on how much time you spend doing thingsover. I have completed my wing and have about 330 hours in it. I expect(and hope) I'm about 30% complete with the project. Costs can vary greatly,depending on engine and materials. I'm building mine with all "aircraftgrade" materials and a Continental A-65 engine and expect my total cost tobe somewhere around $7500 to $8,000. You can build it for much less -perhaps as low as $4,000 if you use lumberyard wood and hardware storehardware and are real good at scrounging.One of the real joys of this design is that the plans are somewhatincomplete, and the design lends itself well to "tinkering", with the resultthat no two Pietenpols are ever exactly alike - even the ones built byBernard himself. The plans leave some room for "individual expression".The plane flies very well, with good performance for this type of airplane.I haven't flown a Ford powered Piet, but the Continental powered versionsperform very similarly to a J-3 Cub, but better. It will get off the groundin less distance than your RV-4, and will likely attract at least as muchattention on the ramp. Jack Phillips> -----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: "mboynton(at)excite.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Is this list down... Test .....Craig Hiers@matronics.com on11/03/99 06:44:16 PMPlease respond to pietenpol-list(at)matronics.comSent by: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.comcc:Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Is this list down... Test .....Go and get the archives for the Aircamper list. You'll find astaggering amount of info along with a huge amount of generalchatter and personal messages. I downloaded a copy and have beenediting out all of the header and footer stuff and as much of thepersonal stuff as possible. If I ever get it near enough tocompletion I'll upload it for all. Until then, take the wholelist and search on words that are important to you.If you ever try to find anything in the archives, you'llappreciate how important it is to change the subject line tomatch the subject of the message. GRRRRRR!Wow, are the RV and the Aircamper generations apart (literallyabout three generations apart). It would seem to almost bedangerous to fly in one and then step into the other and takeoff. I remember bowling ten pins and then rolling a game of duckpins. The first ball of the duck pins went most of the way downthe alley in the air and it took a couple of frames to adjust.Has anyone had any sort of similar experience flying a Piet andthen hopping into something high performance. If you can reply,then you must have survived, but what was the experience like?Mike BellColumbia, SClooks like I'm going to build an Air Camper.Can someone tell me approx cost, and number of hours to buildone?I know very little about building with wood and fabric, of courseI did not know anything about alu when I started the RV.I have been on the RV-list for about 4 years now, Matt has doneanexcellent job of operating the RV and a long line of other lists.The amount of info that is shared on these lists is staggering.Considering the cost, I fail to see how anyone could complain.Craig HiersTallahassee,FL.RV-4 N143CH________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Is this list down... Test .....Craig Hiers@matronics.com on11/03/99 06:44:16 PMPlease respond to pietenpol-list(at)matronics.comSent by: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.comcc:Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Is this list down... Test .....Go and get the archives for the Aircamper list. You'll find astaggering amount of info along with a huge amount of generalchatter and personal messages. I downloaded a copy and have beenediting out all of the header and footer stuff and as much of thepersonal stuff as possible. If I ever get it near enough tocompletion I'll upload it for all. Until then, take the wholelist and search on words that are important to you.If you ever try to find anything in the archives, you'llappreciate how important it is to change the subject line tomatch the subject of the message. GRRRRRR!Wow, are the RV and the Aircamper generations apart (literallyabout three generations apart). It would seem to almost bedangerous to fly in one and then step into the other and takeoff. I remember bowling ten pins and then rolling a game of duckpins. The first ball of the duck pins went most of the way downthe alley in the air and it took a couple of frames to adjust.Has anyone had any sort of similar experience flying a Piet andthen hopping into something high performance. If you can reply,then you must have survived, but what was the experience like?Mike BellColumbia, SClooks like I'm going to build an Air Camper.Can someone tell me approx cost, and number of hours to buildone?I know very little about building with wood and fabric, of courseI did not know anything about alu when I started the RV.I have been on the RV-list for about 4 years now, Matt has doneanexcellent job of operating the RV and a long line of other lists.The amount of info that is shared on these lists is staggering.Considering the cost, I fail to see how anyone could complain.Craig HiersTallahassee,FL.RV-4 N143CH________________________________________________________________________________