Original Posted By: "Howard Wilkinson"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: O T Why a new Piet list?This is an OFF TOPIC question ......The question is regarding the IHA? I see where the head of the IHA has broken away from our Pietenpol listand started a new list for the Piet. Similar to what the number two IHAchief has done with the Ragwing list. I have belonged to both list since their conception and have gained agreat deal of very useful information on wooden plan construction. Ihate to see this happen to some very helpful groups.Why would the leadership of the Iha be disruptive to two establishedhomebuilding list? Also, does anyone know if the IHa is planning on setting a fee formembership?Thanks,Bruce________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: O T Why a new Piet list?
Answer to Bruce: Pietenpol-List: O T Why a new Piet list?
Original Posted By: flyer(at)clas.net
Bruce: My break away from this list has nothing to do with IHA.... Thelist I created is not sponsored by IHA.... It is my own action....perhaps ill advised. I am a member of a fair number of lists and have been a member ofmany others. I have never been subjected to the kind of posts from alist host Matt has put out to the membership of this list and see noreason forit. The 9 lists I operate on ListBot incur no cost and requirevirtuallyno time on my part.... If I took off for a year the system would stillbe up andrunning. Perhaps my reaction to Matt's solicitation for funds wasexcessive... As he is apparently running this list from his own serverperhaps he is incurring cost and investing time and deservescompensation for his work. Mr. Dralle does not hesitate to advertisehis company at the bottom of each message you receive.... That's alot of free advertising........ I seem to have succeeded very well in casting myself as a troublemaker here..... Rock the boat and you get wet. I generally findmyself in the opposite set of shoes serving as peacemaker ohwell....... I apologize for what discord I have created in the buildercommunity.... I am totally unaware of the actions of Gordon on the Ragwinglist... didn't even know there was such a list. The Piet_builder listis not actually an IHA operated list.... This was done on my own. Ipresume that Gordon's actions were not attributed to IHA either. You asked me if IHA had plans to charge dues..... Not if I haveanything to say about it. To date I have turned down over 20 offeredcontributions of money on behalf of IHA..... I don't turn down offersto contribute time to the effort. We operate 9 mailing lists and 2websitesentirely on a volunteer basis...... Our budget is a big fat ZERO. Wehave a board of directors now so I don't have control of theorganization, so I suppose it is possible in the future we will need abudget and dues if we make the transition from a virtual organizationto a conventional organization. I hope this addresses your questionsadequately.-----Original Message-----
Bruce: My break away from this list has nothing to do with IHA.... Thelist I created is not sponsored by IHA.... It is my own action....perhaps ill advised. I am a member of a fair number of lists and have been a member ofmany others. I have never been subjected to the kind of posts from alist host Matt has put out to the membership of this list and see noreason forit. The 9 lists I operate on ListBot incur no cost and requirevirtuallyno time on my part.... If I took off for a year the system would stillbe up andrunning. Perhaps my reaction to Matt's solicitation for funds wasexcessive... As he is apparently running this list from his own serverperhaps he is incurring cost and investing time and deservescompensation for his work. Mr. Dralle does not hesitate to advertisehis company at the bottom of each message you receive.... That's alot of free advertising........ I seem to have succeeded very well in casting myself as a troublemaker here..... Rock the boat and you get wet. I generally findmyself in the opposite set of shoes serving as peacemaker ohwell....... I apologize for what discord I have created in the buildercommunity.... I am totally unaware of the actions of Gordon on the Ragwinglist... didn't even know there was such a list. The Piet_builder listis not actually an IHA operated list.... This was done on my own. Ipresume that Gordon's actions were not attributed to IHA either. You asked me if IHA had plans to charge dues..... Not if I haveanything to say about it. To date I have turned down over 20 offeredcontributions of money on behalf of IHA..... I don't turn down offersto contribute time to the effort. We operate 9 mailing lists and 2websitesentirely on a volunteer basis...... Our budget is a big fat ZERO. Wehave a board of directors now so I don't have control of theorganization, so I suppose it is possible in the future we will need abudget and dues if we make the transition from a virtual organizationto a conventional organization. I hope this addresses your questionsadequately.-----Original Message-----
Re: Answer to Bruce: Pietenpol-List: O T Why a new Piet list?
Original Posted By: del magsam
Subject: Re: Answer to Bruce: Pietenpol-List: O T Why a new Piet list?Howard, Thank you for the forthright answers :-)BruceHoward Wilkinson wrote:> > > Bruce:> My break away from this list has nothing to do with IHA.... The> list I created is not sponsored by IHA.... It is my own action....> perhaps ill advised.> Big Snip> > You asked me if IHA had plans to charge dues..... Not if I have> anything to say about it. To date I have turned down over 20 offered> contributions of money on behalf of IHA..... I don't turn down offers> to contribute time to the effort. We operate 9 mailing lists and 2> websites entirely on a volunteer basis...... Our budget is a big fat ZERO. Snip________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:40:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Answer to Bruce: Pietenpol-List: O T Why a new Piet list?Howard, Thank you for the forthright answers :-)BruceHoward Wilkinson wrote:> > > Bruce:> My break away from this list has nothing to do with IHA.... The> list I created is not sponsored by IHA.... It is my own action....> perhaps ill advised.> Big Snip> > You asked me if IHA had plans to charge dues..... Not if I have> anything to say about it. To date I have turned down over 20 offered> contributions of money on behalf of IHA..... I don't turn down offers> to contribute time to the effort. We operate 9 mailing lists and 2> websites entirely on a volunteer basis...... Our budget is a big fat ZERO. Snip________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:40:42 -0800 (PST)