Original Posted By: del magsam
Does anyone know if Brian Kenny (C-FAUK, based at Hamilton) has e-mail? Iwas going through a bunch of old Sport Aviations, and found one with apicture and bit of a write-up on his plane he might like to have.MikeAirplanes dont fly on gas, they fly on money.The more money you throw at them,the faster they fly.IHA 110________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 04:50:39 -0800 (PST)
Pietenpol-List: C-FAUK (No, I am not swaering at anybody )
Re: Pietenpol-List: welding
Original Posted By: "Walter Allen"
Del: Normalizing is not the same as annealing. Annealing is, as you state,removing the heat treatment and bringing the material back to a soft state. This is usually applied to aluminum, which must be annealed before anycomplex forming. Normalizing is heating an entire part or sometimes justthe area around a weld to equalize the stresses in the part which arecreated by welding, bending, etc. As for being a "best" way to do it, itjust depends on what you (or the welder) is most comfortable with. Personally, I like oxy-acetylene because it is less expensive to equipyourself, easier to learn to do, and, to some extent, more forgiving ofsmall errors. (BTW, I agree with the earlier post, 4130 rod is not thebest to use for aircraft welding with gas, use mild steel rods) Becauseoxy-acet heats up a larger area while welding than the various electric arcwelders, normalizing is not always needed. Also, it is better if you needto weld and form (bend) a part as you go (because it heats up so large anarea), although I can't think of a Piet fitting that would fit thisdescription. Arc welding (MIG or TIG, etc) is sometimes an advantagesimply because it does NOT heat a large area so that if you are welding aparticularly thick part, you do not have to wait until you heat up theentire part.I know this has not cleared up your question. It really all depends onwhat you have access to and what you are comfortable with.________________________________________________________________________________
Del: Normalizing is not the same as annealing. Annealing is, as you state,removing the heat treatment and bringing the material back to a soft state. This is usually applied to aluminum, which must be annealed before anycomplex forming. Normalizing is heating an entire part or sometimes justthe area around a weld to equalize the stresses in the part which arecreated by welding, bending, etc. As for being a "best" way to do it, itjust depends on what you (or the welder) is most comfortable with. Personally, I like oxy-acetylene because it is less expensive to equipyourself, easier to learn to do, and, to some extent, more forgiving ofsmall errors. (BTW, I agree with the earlier post, 4130 rod is not thebest to use for aircraft welding with gas, use mild steel rods) Becauseoxy-acet heats up a larger area while welding than the various electric arcwelders, normalizing is not always needed. Also, it is better if you needto weld and form (bend) a part as you go (because it heats up so large anarea), although I can't think of a Piet fitting that would fit thisdescription. Arc welding (MIG or TIG, etc) is sometimes an advantagesimply because it does NOT heat a large area so that if you are welding aparticularly thick part, you do not have to wait until you heat up theentire part.I know this has not cleared up your question. It really all depends onwhat you have access to and what you are comfortable with.________________________________________________________________________________
> Pietenpol-List: Wing attach points.
Original Posted By: vistin(at)juno.com
Steve:I have a full set of 3 piece wing attach brackets that I bought at Oshkosh adventure 99. They have some damage, but they made excellent patterns for me. contact me if you are interested.Walter>From: vistin(at)juno.com>Reply-To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com, fly5k(at)listbot.com, >Piet_Builder(at)listbot.com>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing attach points.>Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 09:54:25 -0600>>>I am curious about the wing attach points/straps used on the Piets three>piece wing configuration. Is the piece used aprox 12" long and uses three>bolts through the front/rear spar? Or is it a plate type of mount. Is the>spar reenforced with 1/16th ply or what.>>Steve>>Steve W GN-1 builder>IHA #6>>________________________________________________________________________________
Steve:I have a full set of 3 piece wing attach brackets that I bought at Oshkosh adventure 99. They have some damage, but they made excellent patterns for me. contact me if you are interested.Walter>From: vistin(at)juno.com>Reply-To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com, fly5k(at)listbot.com, >Piet_Builder(at)listbot.com>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing attach points.>Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 09:54:25 -0600>>>I am curious about the wing attach points/straps used on the Piets three>piece wing configuration. Is the piece used aprox 12" long and uses three>bolts through the front/rear spar? Or is it a plate type of mount. Is the>spar reenforced with 1/16th ply or what.>>Steve>>Steve W GN-1 builder>IHA #6>>________________________________________________________________________________
> > Pietenpol-List: Wing attach points.
Original Posted By: vistin(at)juno.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing attach points.Walter:I am interested so how do we need to do this. My snail isSteve Williamson114 Pleasant stBrandon, Ms 39042Or just let me know what you can do.Stevewrites:> > > Steve:> I have a full set of 3 piece wing attach brackets that I bought at > Oshkosh > adventure 99. They have some damage, but they made excellent > patterns for > me. contact me if you are interested.> Walter> > > >From: vistin(at)juno.com> >Reply-To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> >To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com, fly5k(at)listbot.com, > >Piet_Builder(at)listbot.com> >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing attach points.> >Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 09:54:25 -0600> >> >> >I am curious about the wing attach points/straps used on the Piets > three> >piece wing configuration. Is the piece used aprox 12" long and uses > three> >bolts through the front/rear spar? Or is it a plate type of mount. > Is the> >spar reenforced with 1/16th ply or what.> >> >Steve> >> >Steve W GN-1 builder> >IHA #6> >> >> > > > > Steve W GN-1 builderIHA #6________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing attach points.Walter:I am interested so how do we need to do this. My snail isSteve Williamson114 Pleasant stBrandon, Ms 39042Or just let me know what you can do.Stevewrites:> > > Steve:> I have a full set of 3 piece wing attach brackets that I bought at > Oshkosh > adventure 99. They have some damage, but they made excellent > patterns for > me. contact me if you are interested.> Walter> > > >From: vistin(at)juno.com> >Reply-To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> >To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com, fly5k(at)listbot.com, > >Piet_Builder(at)listbot.com> >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing attach points.> >Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 09:54:25 -0600> >> >> >I am curious about the wing attach points/straps used on the Piets > three> >piece wing configuration. Is the piece used aprox 12" long and uses > three> >bolts through the front/rear spar? Or is it a plate type of mount. > Is the> >spar reenforced with 1/16th ply or what.> >> >Steve> >> >Steve W GN-1 builder> >IHA #6> >> >> > > > > Steve W GN-1 builderIHA #6________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: C-FAUK (No, I am not swaering at anybody )
Original Posted By: "Mike Lund"
Hi,Try bkenney@petro-canada.caI'm sure he already has the article. I'm not sure what his home e-mailaddress is though.Domenic________________________________________________________________________________
Hi,Try bkenney@petro-canada.caI'm sure he already has the article. I'm not sure what his home e-mailaddress is though.Domenic________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: C-FAUK (No, I am not swaering at anybody )
Original Posted By: Domenico Bellissimo
Thanks DominicI got an e-mail from him today, and will give him a call next time I am backin Hamilton.Mike-----Original Message-----
Thanks DominicI got an e-mail from him today, and will give him a call next time I am backin Hamilton.Mike-----Original Message-----