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Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: How you get a 17 gallon nose tank--even in a shortfuse Pietenpol> > Have them meet at right angles.> > Chris Bobka> ----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: How you get a 17 gallon nose tank--even in a shortfusePietenpol> > Jim-- the guy just edge welded my tank pieces with generous > amounts of > alum. filler rod. There are no baffles in my tank either--makes > it easier > to build. I just supported the bottom of the tank very well > with two s/s > 1" wide fuel tank straps that for a nice 'U' under the tank.> > Mike> > > >> >HI Mike,> >> >Does your aluminuim tank have flanges where one side meets > another (where > >edges> >meet and you have to make the weld)? I have mocked up my tank and > bought the> >5052 for it but haven't been able to find any information on how > the edges> >should meet for max strength.> >> >Thanks, Jim> >> >> >----- Original Message -----> >From: Michael D Cuy > >Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2004 7:06 am> >Subject: Pietenpol-List: How you get a 17 gallon nose tank--even > in a > >short fuse Pietenpol> >> > > > > > Chuck-- I simply went to Wal Mart (my favorite store) and bought> > > white> > > poster board. Actually for the fuel tank I used brown cardboard.> > > I made> > > a mock up tank that is rectangular but has the same shape on top> > > as our> > > cockpit/instrument panel aluminum cover pieces. The bottom I> > > made slanted> > > toward the front so that even in a climb, the fuel would want to> > > go forward> > > and sit in the drain/sump area. This slant also helps passengers> > > get there> > > feet on the front rudder pedals should I invite them to fly. I> > > have not> > > learned to weld aluminum yet and did not want to use > fiberglass so> > > I took> > > my cardboard mockup to a welding shop, alum. filler neck flange,> > > and> > > threaded aluminum drain fitting (all obtained from Wicks) and they> > > made up> > > the tank. To use a pre-made Cub tank or such does not utilize the> > > space up> > > front as well as a custom made-to-fit tank does in a Piet. As> > > far as CG> > > shifts are concerned, the Pietenpol is notoriously tail-heavy with> > > air> > > cooled engines so a large, full nose tank is very advantageous to> > > those of> > > us who are not skinny. The CG shift is only felt really when you> > > go long> > > cross country and only affects the last 45 minutes or so of> > > flight. So I> > > hold a little nose-down pressure. If I lost 30 lbs. I would have> > > no nose> > > pressure to even hold then.> > >> > > Mike C.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > _-> > > _-> > > _-> > > _-> > > > ========================================================================> >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > _-> _-> _-> _-> ======================================================================== > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 16:46:10 -0800
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: How you get a 17 gallon nose tank--even in a shortfusePietenpol> > Jim-- the guy just edge welded my tank pieces with generous > amounts of > alum. filler rod. There are no baffles in my tank either--makes > it easier > to build. I just supported the bottom of the tank very well > with two s/s > 1" wide fuel tank straps that for a nice 'U' under the tank.> > Mike> > > >> >HI Mike,> >> >Does your aluminuim tank have flanges where one side meets > another (where > >edges> >meet and you have to make the weld)? I have mocked up my tank and > bought the> >5052 for it but haven't been able to find any information on how > the edges> >should meet for max strength.> >> >Thanks, Jim> >> >> >----- Original Message -----> >From: Michael D Cuy > >Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2004 7:06 am> >Subject: Pietenpol-List: How you get a 17 gallon nose tank--even > in a > >short fuse Pietenpol> >> > > > > > Chuck-- I simply went to Wal Mart (my favorite store) and bought> > > white> > > poster board. Actually for the fuel tank I used brown cardboard.> > > I made> > > a mock up tank that is rectangular but has the same shape on top> > > as our> > > cockpit/instrument panel aluminum cover pieces. The bottom I> > > made slanted> > > toward the front so that even in a climb, the fuel would want to> > > go forward> > > and sit in the drain/sump area. This slant also helps passengers> > > get there> > > feet on the front rudder pedals should I invite them to fly. I> > > have not> > > learned to weld aluminum yet and did not want to use > fiberglass so> > > I took> > > my cardboard mockup to a welding shop, alum. filler neck flange,> > > and> > > threaded aluminum drain fitting (all obtained from Wicks) and they> > > made up> > > the tank. To use a pre-made Cub tank or such does not utilize the> > > space up> > > front as well as a custom made-to-fit tank does in a Piet. As> > > far as CG> > > shifts are concerned, the Pietenpol is notoriously tail-heavy with> > > air> > > cooled engines so a large, full nose tank is very advantageous to> > > those of> > > us who are not skinny. The CG shift is only felt really when you> > > go long> > > cross country and only affects the last 45 minutes or so of> > > flight. So I> > > hold a little nose-down pressure. If I lost 30 lbs. I would have> > > no nose> > > pressure to even hold then.> > >> > > Mike C.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > _-> > > _-> > > _-> > > _-> > > > ========================================================================> >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > _-> _-> _-> _-> ======================================================================== > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 16:46:10 -0800
> > Pietenpol-List: How you get a 17 gallon nose tank--even
Original Posted By: "Alex Sloan"
> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: How you get a 17 gallon nose tank--even > in a> short fuse Pietenpol> >> > > > > > Chuck-- I simply went to Wal Mart (my favorite store) and bought> > > white> > > poster board. Actually for the fuel tank I used brown cardboard.> > > I made> > > a mock up tank that is rectangular but has the same shape on top> > > as our> > > cockpit/instrument panel aluminum cover pieces. The bottom I> > > made slanted> > > toward the front so that even in a climb, the fuel would want to> > > go forward> > > and sit in the drain/sump area. This slant also helps passengers> > > get there> > > feet on the front rudder pedals should I invite them to fly. I> > > have not> > > learned to weld aluminum yet and did not want to use > fiberglass so> > > I took> > > my cardboard mockup to a welding shop, alum. filler neck flange,> > > and> > > threaded aluminum drain fitting (all obtained from Wicks) and they> > > made up> > > the tank. To use a pre-made Cub tank or such does not utilize the> > > space up> > > front as well as a custom made-to-fit tank does in a Piet. As> > > far as CG> > > shifts are concerned, the Pietenpol is notoriously tail-heavy with> > > air> > > cooled engines so a large, full nose tank is very advantageous to> > > those of> > > us who are not skinny. The CG shift is only felt really when you> > > go long> > > cross country and only affects the last 45 minutes or so of> > > flight. So I> > > hold a little nose-down pressure. If I lost 30 lbs. I would have> > > no nose> > > pressure to even hold then.> > >> > > Mike C.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > _-> > > _-> > > _-> > > _-> > > > ========================================================================> >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > _-> _-> _-> _-> ======================================================================== > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: How you get a 17 gallon nose tank--even > in a> short fuse Pietenpol> >> > > > > > Chuck-- I simply went to Wal Mart (my favorite store) and bought> > > white> > > poster board. Actually for the fuel tank I used brown cardboard.> > > I made> > > a mock up tank that is rectangular but has the same shape on top> > > as our> > > cockpit/instrument panel aluminum cover pieces. The bottom I> > > made slanted> > > toward the front so that even in a climb, the fuel would want to> > > go forward> > > and sit in the drain/sump area. This slant also helps passengers> > > get there> > > feet on the front rudder pedals should I invite them to fly. I> > > have not> > > learned to weld aluminum yet and did not want to use > fiberglass so> > > I took> > > my cardboard mockup to a welding shop, alum. filler neck flange,> > > and> > > threaded aluminum drain fitting (all obtained from Wicks) and they> > > made up> > > the tank. To use a pre-made Cub tank or such does not utilize the> > > space up> > > front as well as a custom made-to-fit tank does in a Piet. As> > > far as CG> > > shifts are concerned, the Pietenpol is notoriously tail-heavy with> > > air> > > cooled engines so a large, full nose tank is very advantageous to> > > those of> > > us who are not skinny. The CG shift is only felt really when you> > > go long> > > cross country and only affects the last 45 minutes or so of> > > flight. So I> > > hold a little nose-down pressure. If I lost 30 lbs. I would have> > > no nose> > > pressure to even hold then.> > >> > > Mike C.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > _-> > > _-> > > _-> > > _-> > > > ========================================================================> >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > _-> _-> _-> _-> ======================================================================== > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________