Pietenpol-List: Elmer's white glue and Home Depot pine Pietenpol
Pietenpol-List: Elmer's white glue and Home Depot pine Pietenpol
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: auto engines in general Well said Mike,I was amused coming into this group in that here we have one of the original pioneer homebuilts with what for the original choice of engines? The Model A? It does not get much more fundamentally alternative or automotive than that.....or simpler. That is what I admire about the "certified solution"; simplicity. They've done everything possible with an aircraft engine to be surethat by default, it runs. Hard to beat that or argue with it anyway. I did notsay anything about cheap, cost effective or reliable.It always seems that when your alternative engine has a fault that it fully meets the expectations of your certified friends and ramp quarterbacks, yet when their certified engine swallows a valve, breaks a crank, or throws an entire cylinder assembly out through the side of the cowling (do not laugh thishas happened) that this is perfectly ok and normal because it is a known modality of failure.I guess there is satisfaction and comfort in knowing your failure modes?So now somebody tell me who is ahead here, the guy walking out of the Alaskan wilderness because he has discovered a new way his alternative engine can stop running or the other guy walking out of the Alaskan wilderness thankful only his certified crankshaft broke?Regards, ChrissiCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardwarewww.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details==============================**************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals ... 0000000047)________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Elmer's white glue and Home Depot pine PietenpolDate: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:00:14 -0500
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: auto engines in general Well said Mike,I was amused coming into this group in that here we have one of the original pioneer homebuilts with what for the original choice of engines? The Model A? It does not get much more fundamentally alternative or automotive than that.....or simpler. That is what I admire about the "certified solution"; simplicity. They've done everything possible with an aircraft engine to be surethat by default, it runs. Hard to beat that or argue with it anyway. I did notsay anything about cheap, cost effective or reliable.It always seems that when your alternative engine has a fault that it fully meets the expectations of your certified friends and ramp quarterbacks, yet when their certified engine swallows a valve, breaks a crank, or throws an entire cylinder assembly out through the side of the cowling (do not laugh thishas happened) that this is perfectly ok and normal because it is a known modality of failure.I guess there is satisfaction and comfort in knowing your failure modes?So now somebody tell me who is ahead here, the guy walking out of the Alaskan wilderness because he has discovered a new way his alternative engine can stop running or the other guy walking out of the Alaskan wilderness thankful only his certified crankshaft broke?Regards, ChrissiCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardwarewww.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details==============================**************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals ... 0000000047)________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Elmer's white glue and Home Depot pine PietenpolDate: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:00:14 -0500
RE: Pietenpol-List: Elmer's white glue and Home Depot pine Pietenpol
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Mike has morals? Since when?Jack PhillipsNX899JPFinally an honest to goodness certified Commercial Pilot today. Passed thecheckride this afternoon, only 38 ' =BD years after I got my Private license. _____
Mike has morals? Since when?Jack PhillipsNX899JPFinally an honest to goodness certified Commercial Pilot today. Passed thecheckride this afternoon, only 38 ' =BD years after I got my Private license. _____
Pietenpol-List: Elmer's white glue and Home Depot pine
Original Posted By: "walt"
Re: Pietenpol-List: Elmer's white glue and Home Depot pine
Original Posted By: Michael Silvius
To: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Elmer's white glue and Home Depot pine Pietenpol Michael , Sounds like "Poplar Piet" Fellow who had a picture of himself next to a poplar tree then next to the plane he made out of it. But alas, think he crashed it. walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message -----
To: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Elmer's white glue and Home Depot pine Pietenpol Michael , Sounds like "Poplar Piet" Fellow who had a picture of himself next to a poplar tree then next to the plane he made out of it. But alas, think he crashed it. walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Elmer's white glue and Home Depot pine Pietenpol
Original Posted By: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
Elmer's white glue and Home Depot pine PietenpolMike:I know a farmer a real old timer who goes by the name of Lucky and back about 1985 he built himself a Piet. He cut down a poplar tree on the back 40, milled it and started building. About six months from tree to finished flying plane. Not much for cosmetics on his rendition. I hear tell it is still out there flying. Michael ----- Original Message -----
Elmer's white glue and Home Depot pine PietenpolMike:I know a farmer a real old timer who goes by the name of Lucky and back about 1985 he built himself a Piet. He cut down a poplar tree on the back 40, milled it and started building. About six months from tree to finished flying plane. Not much for cosmetics on his rendition. I hear tell it is still out there flying. Michael ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Elmer's white glue and Home Depot pine
Original Posted By: "walt"
Re: Pietenpol-List: Elmer's white glue and Home Depot pine Pietenpol
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Elmer's white glue and Home Depot pine PietenpolAnd then theres this fellow in Brazil.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1dMyonbPY0and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGmlH64hBLw4 months from start to finish. he skipped the plans part, not a sheet of paper was used, made it up in his own head as he went along. powered by a 73 hp 1978 Ford Corcel engine note the "instrument panel" The fisherman from Belize has nothing on this guy. Michael________________________________________________________________________________
Elmer's white glue and Home Depot pine PietenpolAnd then theres this fellow in Brazil.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1dMyonbPY0and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGmlH64hBLw4 months from start to finish. he skipped the plans part, not a sheet of paper was used, made it up in his own head as he went along. powered by a 73 hp 1978 Ford Corcel engine note the "instrument panel" The fisherman from Belize has nothing on this guy. Michael________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Elmer's white glue and Home Depot pine Pietenpol
Original Posted By: "Clif Dawson"
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Elmer's white glue and Home Depot pine Pietenpol
Original Posted By: Jack Phillips
Elmer's white glue and Home Depot pine PietenpolSince the last rain. They're growing in his back yard. :-)I'm using the equivalent to T-88 but when you thinkabout it how much moisture is going to get past thevarnish encasing everything? Eventually yes but itcould be many years. Possibly never for a hangered AC.Good for you Jack. That's a lot of work crammed intoa half a year.Clif ----- Original Message -----
Elmer's white glue and Home Depot pine PietenpolSince the last rain. They're growing in his back yard. :-)I'm using the equivalent to T-88 but when you thinkabout it how much moisture is going to get past thevarnish encasing everything? Eventually yes but itcould be many years. Possibly never for a hangered AC.Good for you Jack. That's a lot of work crammed intoa half a year.Clif ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Elmer's white glue and Home Depot pine
Original Posted By: "walt"
Pietenpol-List: Elmer's white glue and Home Depot pine
Original Posted By: "walt"
: Re: Pietenpol-List: Elmer's white
Original Posted By: Michael Silvius
I doubt it was the wood that did it. Could be wrong? How often does wood fail?Not a very settling thought for someone building with poplarLike meJohn Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Elmer's white glue and Home Depot pine PietenpolMichael =2CSounds like "Poplar Piet"Fellow who had a picture of himself next to a poplar tree then next to the plane he made out of it.But alas=2C think he crashed it.walt evansNX140DL----- Original Message -----
I doubt it was the wood that did it. Could be wrong? How often does wood fail?Not a very settling thought for someone building with poplarLike meJohn Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Elmer's white glue and Home Depot pine PietenpolMichael =2CSounds like "Poplar Piet"Fellow who had a picture of himself next to a poplar tree then next to the plane he made out of it.But alas=2C think he crashed it.walt evansNX140DL----- Original Message -----