Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Construction

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:30 pm

Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
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matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:16 am

Original Posted By: "TOM STINEMETZE"

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:54 am

Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
I'm not for shortening the responses. I don't need to scroll through the samepictures over and over again to get to the latest response. If you have a slowInternet connection or are following a thread with an iPod, this redundancycan be time consuming and annoying.--------JohnRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Construction

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:54 am

Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
I am currently assembling my fuselage sides, but I am uncertain as to the bestapproach. I have constructed a jig directly on my workbench table top, whichI used to assemble and glue my left fuselage side (gussets on inside right). I planned to use the Pietenpol method of tracing that assembly on to my 1/8" plywoodin order to attach that to the next assembly since I obviously can't installthe gussets to the side laying on the table. This would be my right sideassembly (plywood sheet on the right side). While this method seems to makegood sense to me, I've got a couple of questions/observations...1. Will having the plywood sheet on the right side make future processes more difficult?Reasons that I shouldn't do it this way?2. I notice that many builders have a completed skeletal structure with no plywoodsheet on the outside of the fuse (see Jack's photo below). How did you accomplishthis? I would like to use the same jig for both halves in order to makeexact copies for each assembly, but I can't figure out how else (or how better),to accomplish this, other than the way Bernard spoke about (tracing plywoodsheet and applying it to second assembly). I hope that what I am asking makes sense, and that someone might be able to shedsome light on the matter.--------Mark ChouinardWings and Center Section framed up - Working on EmpannageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/new_ ... ______Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:37:15 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Construction

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:36 am

Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage ConstructionMark for what its worth, and that may be very little, I have chosen to hold off closing in the sides for fear of losing important access and painting myself into a corner. Once i get all the goodies in and installed to my liking I will close in the sides. I think access plays a big part in the construction process and I see no need to limit that and such a early stage.Juss how I'm doing it! I like to keep my options open as long as possible, but then again at my age forget lots of stuff and don't want to be forced to remove a glued in panel , then be faced with the ugly job of removing it afterwards.JohnIn a message dated 9/21/2010 11:52:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rmueller23(at)gmail.com writes:Hi Mark, Congrats on progressing to the fuselage. For the right fuselage side, what about just gluing the butt joints? Let those joints dry and then carefully remove the fuselage from the jig, flip it over on the table, and glue the gussets on....RyanOn Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:54 AM, K5YAC wrote:--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "K5YAC" I am currently assembling my fuselage sides, but I am uncertain as to the best approach. I have constructed a jig directly on my workbench table top, which I used to assemble and glue my left fuselage side (gussets on inside right). I planned to use the Pietenpol method of tracing that assemblyon to my 1/8" plywood in order to attach that to the next assembly since I obviously can't install the gussets to the side laying on the table. This would be my right side assembly (plywood sheet on the right side). While this method seems to make good sense to me, I've got a couple of questions/observations...1. Will having the plywood sheet on the right side make future processes more difficult? Reasons that I shouldn't do it this way?2. I notice that many builders have a completed skeletal structure with no plywood sheet on the outside of the fuse (see Jack's photo below). How did you accomplish this? I would like to use the same jig for both halves inorder to make exact copies for each assembly, but I can't figure out how else (or how better), to accomplish this, other than the way Bernard spoke about (tracing plywood sheet and applying it to second assembly).I hope that what I am asking makes sense, and that someone might be able to shed some light on the matter.--------Mark ChouinardWings and Center Section framed up - Working on EmpannageRead this topic online here:_http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313210#313210_ (http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 210#313210) Attachments:_http://forums.matronics.com//files/new_piet_007_450x600_260.jpg_ (http://forums.matronics.com//files/new_ ... 00_260.jpg) ==========st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet ... ========le, List Admin.="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution== ... npol-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:53:24 -0500

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:54 am

Original Posted By: Steve Ruse

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:10 pm

Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Construction

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:11 pm

Original Posted By: Jim Boyer

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:21 pm

Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Thanks for all the replies... it looks like I'll have to approach this a littledifferently. I was concerned about boxing myself in, even if just on the oneside.yocum137 wrote:> Of course, you left the space around the joints free of rigging blocks to putthe gussets under the longerons and cross braces, right?> > DanYeah, my blocks are placed in a manner that will allow me to work around the joints.I'll have to think about how to do that so that I can remove it withoutdamaging the assembly. I know it is possible, I'll just have to take my time.I don't have much confidence in those end grain joints.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:34:54 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Construction

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:02 pm

Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
at7000ft wrote:> Or at least leave off one side.Oh yeah, I fully planned to leave the left side off. I was only considering theinstallation of the right side ply as Bernard described, which would hold myfuse side together until I could flip it over and install the gussets. I supposethere are other ways to accomplish this, and I really would like to leaveboth sides off if possible in order to allow better access. I'll probably justglue everything together without gussets and then flip it over... like othershave suggested.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:14:18 -0500

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:36 pm

Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
yocum137 wrote:> Let's back up a minute - you want to use the same pattern for both your leftand right sides, right? On one side, you'll be able to put the gussets righton top of the longeron/cross braces. On the other side, > you'll put the gussets on the bottom, between the longeron/cross-braces > and the jig.> > DanI follow ya Dan... I could lay them under the longerons and braces. I guess I'mjust trying to be consistent in my construction (glue and nail), which wouldrequire me to have the gussets on top when gluing.It's not an impossible task, I was just looking for some ideas as to how/why manyof you have done it the way that you did. It is hard to evaluate the situationfrom my desk at work... I'll look it over tonight and consider some of theideas you guys have shared today.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Construction

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:35 pm

Original Posted By: Rick Holland
I have had my Ford B to 10,000 AGL and had no problem.Jack McKinney flew his Ford A from AZ with only a H2O Pump Problem, He drilleda vent in the bearing hsg and took off for Brodhead without a problem.Pieti LowellRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:21:51 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Construction

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:24 pm

Original Posted By: Dan Yocum

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:36 pm

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Mark,I did as Ryan M. suggested, and let the glue set hard, flipped the frameover and installed gussets. There was no indication that the butt jointswere stressed to the breaking point. I left off the sides 'till the veryend, even after control stick and rudder pedals and brakes were installed.Incidentally, I also followed Jim Boyer's advice; made my 1/8" firewallplywood, clamped it in place, drilled 'locating dowels' that stuck out about3", and left the firewall off until just before making the metal firewalland installing the engine mount...should be pics on westcoastpiet. Thatgives you forward access even after the sides are glued on. I must haveremoved that firewall plywood at least 500 times...maybe 1,000!!Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (20 ribs down.) -----Original Message-----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:53 pm

Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
gboothe5(at)comcast.net wrote:> Mark,> > I did as Ryan M. suggested, and let the glue set hard, flipped the frame> over and installed gussets. There was no indication that the butt joints> were stressed to the breaking point. I left off the sides 'till the very> end, even after control stick and rudder pedals and brakes were installed.> > > Gary Boothe > It's done. I went to the hangar tonight and glued all the supports in place without gussetsor ply. I will wait a day or two and flip it over to install the inside gussetsonly. This is originally what I hoped to do, but I was looking for someconfirmation from others that it was indeed possible when using thesame jig forboth sides... I got that and then some. I think the Pietenpol method wouldhave worked well by providing the necessary framework to hold things together,but I was unsure about closing in the right side and I do see your point Billabout the uneven bending force. Oh well, problem solved... now I just hope to get the gussets installed withoutany separation or damage. Dan... I will be using glue AND nails for that operation.LOL!--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:24:21 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Construction

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:22 pm

Original Posted By: jorge lizarraga
Why don't you just go ahead and put those gussets on topof the joints.Then clamp another set onto those and glue all yourlongerons and crossmembers to those. This will giveyou two identical sides with no muss or fuss. :-)Clif "The man who has no imagination has no wings." ~ Muhammad Ali>> gboothe5(at)comcast.net wrote:>> Mark,>>>> I did as Ryan M. suggested, and let the glue set hard, flipped the frame>> over and installed gussets. >>>> Gary Boothe> It's done. > I went to the hangar tonight and glued all the supports in place without gussets or ply. I will wait a day or two and flip it over to install the inside gussets only. > --------> Mark Chouinard________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:41:48 -0700 (PDT)

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:49 pm

Original Posted By: jorge lizarraga
Ha! Now there's an idea I haven't seen. Problem is, my left half has alreadybeen completed... I was simply trying to figure the best (or at least a good)approach to building the right half in the same jig. Not a problem now... everythingis in the works. Glue should be dry tomorrow evening, so I'll press onfrom there. CDAWSON5854(at)shaw.ca wrote:> Why don't you just go ahead and put those gussets on top> of the joints.> Then clamp another set onto those and glue all your> longerons and crossmembers to those. This will give> you two identical sides with no muss or fuss.

> > Clif> > "The man who has no imagination has no wings." ~ Muhammad Ali> > > > > gboothe5(at)comcast.net wrote:> > > Mark,> > >> > > I did as Ryan M. suggested, and let the glue set hard, flipped the frame> > > over and installed gussets. >>> > > Gary Boothe> > > > > > > > It's done.> > > I went to the hangar tonight and glued all the supports in place without> > > > gussets or ply. I will wait a day or two and flip it over to install the > inside gussets only. > --------> > > Mark Chouinard> > > > > --------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:50:12 -0700 (PDT)

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:50 am

Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
>If one side is glued while laying flat on the table,>and the other side is not glued on until later,>there is a very high likelihood that the paneled side>will flex less than the non-paneled side when you join>the two fuselage sides. If this happens, your fuselage>will be out of symmetry, which would not be a good thing.OK, just talking theoretically here (since the topic hasbeen flogged to death already), aren't the fuselage sidesparallel from the firewall to the back of the pilot's seat,where the plywood ends and it's just open framing fromthere aft?- If so, then the plywood-sheeted parts aren'tbeing asked to bend or flex, only open-framed sections.In that case, it shouldn't make any difference.The above does NOT apply to GN-1s or "Navratil-style"fully-sheeted fuselages, of course.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net --- -------- ------ --- - le, List Admin.=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Construction

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:50 am

Original Posted By: norm
>If one side is glued while laying flat on the table,>and the other side is not glued on until later,>there is a very high likelihood that the paneled side>will flex less than the non-paneled side when you join>the two fuselage sides. If this happens, your fuselage>will be out of symmetry, which would not be a good thing.OK, just talking theoretically here (since the topic hasbeen flogged to death already), aren't the fuselage sidesparallel from the firewall to the back of the pilot's seat,where the plywood ends and it's just open framing fromthere aft? If so, then the plywood-sheeted parts aren'tbeing asked to bend or flex, only open-framed sections.In that case, it shouldn't make any difference.The above does NOT apply to GN-1s or "Navratil-style"fully-sheeted fuselages, of course.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:54:20 -0700 (PDT)

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:35 am

Original Posted By: Jim Boyer
Well, technically the fuselage sides are parallel from the firewall to the backof the passenger's seat, and begin tapering from there, which leaves about 29inches rear of the passenger seat of plywood paneled fuselage side that needsto flex. Now, the fuselage is only 2 inches narrower by the back of the pilot'sseat, so not a great deal of flexing, but still possibly significant.Just seems like logic to me to build both sides using the same technique, and eliminatethe possibility of unevenness.Bill C.Quote: If one side is glued while laying flat on the table, and the other side is not glued on until later, there is a very high likelihood that the paneled side will flex less than the non-paneled side when you join the two fuselage sides. If this happens, your fuselage will be out of symmetry, which would not be a good thing. OK, just talking theoretically here (since the topic has been flogged to death already), aren't the fuselage sides parallel from the firewall to the back of the pilot's seat, where the plywood ends and it's just open framing from there aft? If so, then the plywood-sheeted parts aren't being asked to bend or flex, only open-framed sections. In that case, it shouldn't make any difference. The above does NOT apply to GN-1s or "Navratil-style" fully-sheeted fuselages, of course. Oscar Zuniga [/quote]Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fuse ... ______Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:12:49 +0000 (UTC)

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 5:08 pm

Original Posted By: shad bell

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:13 pm

Original Posted By: Michael Conkling
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Construction

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:17 pm

Original Posted By: "Richard Schreiber"
Still beating the dog squeeze out of this topic I see. LOL! I pulled my right fuse side out of the jig and glued all the gussets on tonight.All went well... both the left and right sides look good. Mike, that T-88dispenser would have been a good idea. I mixed and brushed on four 15g batchesto get all the gussets glued. Oh well, on to the next challenge.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:27 am

Original Posted By: shad bell
Shad:I'll be at Lee Bottom Friday through Sunday morning. I'll be leaving NW Indianaafter lunch on Friday, flying down in my red and white Tripacer.Rick SchreiberValparaiso, IN----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:29 am

Original Posted By: "Billy McCaskill"
A picture of my LG lower brackets, I think they came out pretty good. I decidedto rivet them after seeing Genes good work up close and personal. They are tremendouslystrong and riveted easily. Thanks again Gene!--------Stevewww.mypiet.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/brac ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Landing Gear Brackets

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:49 am

Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Very nice work! What are the advantages of using rivets over nuts and bolts?--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:04 pm

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I used nuts and bolts...the rivets are much cleaner looking!Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (20 ribs down.) -----Original Message-----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:15 pm

Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
Just my $.02: I think they looked more traditional, as called out in the plans,very strong, and they have a smaller profile with smoother edges to prevent cuttinginto the bungees. I had the equipment in the shop, just add $5 in rivets.And lastly, they are fun to make, I love to wake the neighbors at midnightwith the sound of rivetting!Steve--------Stevewww.mypiet.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Landing Gear BracketsDate: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:30:54 -0400

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:18 pm

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of chase143(at)aol.com
Looks great Steve! I have to comment publicly on your work and website, both are fantastic! Pieters check it out www.mypiet.com a fantastic resource!Jackwww.textors.com -----Original Message-----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:47 pm

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Looking good, Steve. So you've seen Gene's gorgeous project recently, huh?Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC-----Original Message-----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:24 pm

Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Jack T. you are too kind, just following your website lead!Jack P. ~ Yes, I visited Gene before Brodhead and his is beautiful. My Piet palesin comparison. I liked his rivet work so much I shamelessly copied it (bestform of flattery ey!?). His must be ready to cover by now. Gene? Pictures?--------Stevewww.mypiet.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Landing Gear Brackets

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:40 am

Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
I've built the workbench where my fuselage jig will be laid out, and plywood, spruceand T-88 are on their way from Aircraft Spruce. I have one question (fornow...) about how to glue it all together in the jig. Should I put the longeronsin first, then squeeze in the struts and cross braces with the glue on them,or should I put one longeron in the jig, glue on the struts and cross braces,then bring the other longeron up to the struts, etc. before putting on thegussets? I've read Mr. Pietenpol's builders notes, and he seems to indicatedoing it the first way, but I just picture the glue being squeegeed (is thata word?) out. I certainly appreciate any input.Thank you,LowellRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:58 am

Original Posted By: lowell23(at)msn.com
Squeegeed? I think the correct word is, "Squoze." ;-)Anyhow, use the first method, put the epoxy on both surfaces. In my case, I was able to flex the longeron just enough to not scrape off all the epoxy, in most cases. No matter, the real strength is in the gussets.Carry on with confidence...Gary Boothe-----Original Message-----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:37 am

Original Posted By: "TOM STINEMETZE"

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:06 am

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Lowell, Put the longerons in the jig and then you can custom fit theuprights and diagonals. Don't try cutting them to exact length first - theywill never fit quite right. Gary's right - don't worry about squeezing theglue out of the butt joints - even with exactly right amounts of glue, abutt joint is still very weak. The strength comes from the gussets.Jack PhillipsNX899JP "Icarus Plummet"Raleigh, NC-----Original Message-----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:16 pm

Original Posted By: Oscar Zuniga
John,As of right now I am planning to make the Brodhead trip this year.Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:53 am

Original Posted By: "lowell23(at)msn.com"
I just noticed in the latest BPA Newsletter that Bill Rewey's Piet,NX17WR, is for sale. Anybody know the story behind this? Is hehanging up his goggles or building another Piet?Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"San Antonio, TXwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Construction

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:18 am

Original Posted By: "heavyliftpilot"
I think WW says 3100 is about top desired rpm for his corvair conversion. don't remember recommended prop dimensions without checking.Kip GardnerOn Apr 19, 2011, at 11:00 AM, skellytown flyer wrote:> >>> That's what I thought. I got the project from D.J. with it on the > engine but I'm afraid I need to get something with more bite soon. I > don't know that I'll damage the engine but it sure reduces the > performance I'm thinking.I may check on the corvair list and see if > anyone has a good one to get rid of. I have a new set of 5" wheels > and brakes that I removed from it that would sure be good trading > material as well as a few other goodies. wish there was a swap list > on the site.>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Construction

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:28 am

Original Posted By: "heavyliftpilot"
This might be off topic, but does the fuselage kit from ACS have full length ailerons,or are they short to accomodate shipping, and need to be spliced together?Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Construction

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:39 am

Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Sorry, i meant, full length longerons, not ailerons. jamesRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Construction

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:44 am

Original Posted By: james theissen
Does anyone know how someone goes about changing the name of a private airstrip on a sectional chart? I want to change mine from "Oliver" (the previous owner) to "Lowensloe". on the St. Louis sectional chart. If anyone can help please contact me off-list. Thanks in advance.Dan HelsperPuryear, TN________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 11:51:37 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Construction

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:58 am

Original Posted By: helspersew
You need to refile form 5010 with the FAAhttp://www.faa.gov/airports/airport_safety/air ... _5010/Then just wait for it to appear on the new sectionalHansNX15KV-----Original Message-----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:03 am

Original Posted By: American Safety Consultants
There is an FAA Charting office. I don't have the number, though. I'm not sure they're the starting point, but it's worth a shot.Wayne BresslerTaildraggers, Inc.www.taildraggersinc.comOn Apr 19, 2011, at 11:44 AM, helspersew(at)aol.com wrote:> > Does anyone know how someone goes about changing the name of a private airstrip on a sectional chart? I want to change mine from "Oliver" (the previous owner) to "Lowensloe". > on the St. Louis sectional chart. If anyone can help please contact me off-list. Thanks in advance.> > Dan Helsper> Puryear, TN> > ============================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 12:39:18 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off-topic- need help

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:46 pm

Original Posted By: shad bell

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:33 pm

Original Posted By: "Billy McCaskill"
jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc. wrote:> "Wimmin's be thinkin' too much."> > -john-Oh yeah, that's going to work out real well.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Construction

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:27 pm

Original Posted By: james theissen
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Taxes on materialHey Billy, I found out the hard way. I ordered almost $2,000 worth of wood and other supplies. I live in Western North Carolina so I went and picked it up to save shipping. Surprise!!! The taxes on that amount were just short of the shipping by truck. Dave________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 19:11:20 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Construction

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:36 pm

Original Posted By: james theissen
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> om>> > Hey A Guys..> i know quite a few run a single ignition on the ford.... just wondering if anyone has a thought on heads..> i was kinda waiting on a dual plug head from snyders.. they are working on the new casting.. and i'm on the list> but i wonder if i "need" dual ignition> i have a wico model c mag with an adjustable impulse and its hot !> but i thought about a electronic "B" distributor too ... i need an electrical system anyway> > been thinking about a winfield head... or thomas .. kinda want to stick with aluminum for weight> > jeff> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 553#337553> > > > > > > ============================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 19:14:22 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Construction