Original Posted By: "Jerry Dotson"
Jack said it exactly right- really beautiful. On a slightly separate note, I have attached some info on how to burnish, or "fishscale" your own panels. I found this on another forum, and I saved it forfuture reference. I hope it helps someone.--------Semper Fi,TerryRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fish ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: My Instrument Panel Layout
Pietenpol-List: Re: My Instrument Panel Layout
Original Posted By: Oscar Zuniga
Scotty I made wooden mock ups as you can see. I have a home made CNC router andit is not a big deal to cut the panel. This is the third one. I think it is final.I found out that sitting in the cockpit the 2 1/4" instruments that wereon the bottom were very hard for me to read so a total revamp to what you see.Oil pressure and temp goes in the empty holes. When the time comes I will cutit from 1/8" aircraft plywood.I don't know who to give credit to for the drawing. It is not my art. Anyone knowwho did it?--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rollingusing Lycoming O-235Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/prof ... __________
Scotty I made wooden mock ups as you can see. I have a home made CNC router andit is not a big deal to cut the panel. This is the third one. I think it is final.I found out that sitting in the cockpit the 2 1/4" instruments that wereon the bottom were very hard for me to read so a total revamp to what you see.Oil pressure and temp goes in the empty holes. When the time comes I will cutit from 1/8" aircraft plywood.I don't know who to give credit to for the drawing. It is not my art. Anyone knowwho did it?--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rollingusing Lycoming O-235Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/prof ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Dave's Pietenpol Airworthiness Inspection on the 17th
Original Posted By: "Dangerous Dave"
Larry asked-> Email address please.sterlingintexas(at)gmail.comMy understanding is that he's getting ready to re-list it on eBay afterthe first and second bidders went incommunicado on him.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"San Antonio, TX (soon to be Eagle Point, Oregon)website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dave's Pietenpol Airworthiness Inspection on the 17th
Larry asked-> Email address please.sterlingintexas(at)gmail.comMy understanding is that he's getting ready to re-list it on eBay afterthe first and second bidders went incommunicado on him.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"San Antonio, TX (soon to be Eagle Point, Oregon)website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dave's Pietenpol Airworthiness Inspection on the 17th
Original Posted By: Ben Charvet
Mike,attached is the W&B.Been flying a Murphy Moose and will do a bunch of takeoffsand landing in a Champ prior to first flight,Dave--------taking to hangarRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/bush ... ______Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 09:35:07 -0400
Mike,attached is the W&B.Been flying a Murphy Moose and will do a bunch of takeoffsand landing in a Champ prior to first flight,Dave--------taking to hangarRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/bush ... ______Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 09:35:07 -0400
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: My Instrument Panel Layout
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
I have all the Brodhead newsletters.thanks--------taking to hangarRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 12:46:36 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: My Instrument Panel Layout
I have all the Brodhead newsletters.thanks--------taking to hangarRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 12:46:36 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: My Instrument Panel Layout
Pietenpol-List: Re: Dave's Pietenpol Airworthiness Inspection on the 17th
Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
Ok .... i'm dying herei've read the post about the slack in the elevator cables...i'm confusedthe cables from the control stick to the bellcrank loose tension as i move thestick fore and aft.... pressure in the middle and way slack at the up and downpositions...i don't get it... this can't be righti can see where a tube with a rod end is nicei thought this was going to be the easy partjeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dave's Pietenpol Airworthiness Inspection on the 17th
Ok .... i'm dying herei've read the post about the slack in the elevator cables...i'm confusedthe cables from the control stick to the bellcrank loose tension as i move thestick fore and aft.... pressure in the middle and way slack at the up and downpositions...i don't get it... this can't be righti can see where a tube with a rod end is nicei thought this was going to be the easy partjeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dave's Pietenpol Airworthiness Inspection on the 17th
Pietenpol-List: Re: Firewall progress...
Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
thanks Dave - this helps....Good luck on your test flights.........! (Watch out for those bugs in your teeth.... ha!)--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Firewall progress...
thanks Dave - this helps....Good luck on your test flights.........! (Watch out for those bugs in your teeth.... ha!)--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Firewall progress...
Original Posted By: "skipgadd(at)earthlink.net"
great stuff.... thanks Terry for posting this info. ...and thanks everyone for the positive comments - helps motivate me through theproject when there is such a long ways yet to go....!--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
great stuff.... thanks Terry for posting this info. ...and thanks everyone for the positive comments - helps motivate me through theproject when there is such a long ways yet to go....!--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: bellcrank geometry
Original Posted By:> bender
Jeff, I worried about this for about a year. Just guessing but I bet youhaven't hooked up the cables from the bellcrank to the elevator.When you do the weight of the elevator will take out the slack. At least itdid in mine.Skip> [Original Message]
Jeff, I worried about this for about a year. Just guessing but I bet youhaven't hooked up the cables from the bellcrank to the elevator.When you do the weight of the elevator will take out the slack. At least itdid in mine.Skip> [Original Message]
Pietenpol-List: Re: Dave's Pietenpol Airworthiness Inspection on the 17th
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Thank you guys! I didnt think about not being able to read the smaller instruments.I guess I will check once the fuse is assembled and then make the adjustments.Can anyone give me an idea of the distance from the panel to where the aileroncables run through the back?Scotty--------ScottyTamworth, AustraliaBuilding a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camperwww.scottyspietenpol.comRudder, Vert stab, Elevators and 22 Ribs built...Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dave's Pietenpol Airworthiness Inspection on the 17th
Thank you guys! I didnt think about not being able to read the smaller instruments.I guess I will check once the fuse is assembled and then make the adjustments.Can anyone give me an idea of the distance from the panel to where the aileroncables run through the back?Scotty--------ScottyTamworth, AustraliaBuilding a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camperwww.scottyspietenpol.comRudder, Vert stab, Elevators and 22 Ribs built...Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dave's Pietenpol Airworthiness Inspection on the 17th
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: My Instrument Panel Layout
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
I think that if you build to the plans, the longer instruments (turn/slip, DG ifyou want one, etc.) will become problematic with regard to the cables, at leastin some spots on the panel. If you're not mass-challenged (i.e. Bernard sized)you could extend the panel rearwards by 2 inches and still have enough roomto enter/exit the cockpit easily & that would probably be enough to keep allinstruments clear of the cables regardless of length & placement, althoughyou might still have to be creative about routing any plumbing out the back side.Of course, you should ask yourself what instruments you really need, I mean, noneof us are flying or intend to fly these beasts in anything other than day VFRconditions.Kip GardnerOn May 12, 2011, at 8:53 AM, bubbleboy wrote:> > Thank you guys! I didnt think about not being able to read the smaller instruments.I guess I will check once the fuse is assembled and then make the adjustments.Can anyone give me an idea of the distance from the panel to where theaileron cables run through the back?> > Scotty> > --------> Scotty> > Tamworth, Australia> Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper> > www.scottyspietenpol.com> > Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and 22 Ribs built...> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 670#339670> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: My Instrument Panel Layout
I think that if you build to the plans, the longer instruments (turn/slip, DG ifyou want one, etc.) will become problematic with regard to the cables, at leastin some spots on the panel. If you're not mass-challenged (i.e. Bernard sized)you could extend the panel rearwards by 2 inches and still have enough roomto enter/exit the cockpit easily & that would probably be enough to keep allinstruments clear of the cables regardless of length & placement, althoughyou might still have to be creative about routing any plumbing out the back side.Of course, you should ask yourself what instruments you really need, I mean, noneof us are flying or intend to fly these beasts in anything other than day VFRconditions.Kip GardnerOn May 12, 2011, at 8:53 AM, bubbleboy wrote:> > Thank you guys! I didnt think about not being able to read the smaller instruments.I guess I will check once the fuse is assembled and then make the adjustments.Can anyone give me an idea of the distance from the panel to where theaileron cables run through the back?> > Scotty> > --------> Scotty> > Tamworth, Australia> Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper> > www.scottyspietenpol.com> > Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and 22 Ribs built...> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 670#339670> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: My Instrument Panel Layout
Pietenpol-List: Re: bellcrank geometry
Original Posted By: "bender"
Congratulations Dave,I have one item I think you should consider. I was looking at you W&B and noticedthat you have the gross weight at 1250 pounds. If you were to lower it to1230 or lower before your inspection it would then be able to be flown by a SportPilot. Once it gets its AW with 1250 documented it cannot be changed. Asthe builder you can set the gross weight anywhere you would like.My two cents. Good luck and enjoy every flight.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: bellcrank geometry
Congratulations Dave,I have one item I think you should consider. I was looking at you W&B and noticedthat you have the gross weight at 1250 pounds. If you were to lower it to1230 or lower before your inspection it would then be able to be flown by a SportPilot. Once it gets its AW with 1250 documented it cannot be changed. Asthe builder you can set the gross weight anywhere you would like.My two cents. Good luck and enjoy every flight.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: bellcrank geometry
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
i understand the aft cable issue...as i move the stick...no cables aft of the bellcrank the cables go from loose totight to loose againmy problem is up front... i see from mr Cuys photos that 2 inches of travel atthe location of his stop is all thats required and that would help but i'm wonderingif the bellcrank going overcenter is the problemi really thought this closed loop in the front was a no brainernow i feel like i'm missing a brain myselfjeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/cabl ... ______Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 08:06:49 -0700 (PDT)
i understand the aft cable issue...as i move the stick...no cables aft of the bellcrank the cables go from loose totight to loose againmy problem is up front... i see from mr Cuys photos that 2 inches of travel atthe location of his stop is all thats required and that would help but i'm wonderingif the bellcrank going overcenter is the problemi really thought this closed loop in the front was a no brainernow i feel like i'm missing a brain myselfjeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/cabl ... ______Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 08:06:49 -0700 (PDT)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: My Instrument Panel Layout
Original Posted By: Kip and Beth Gardner
I still like the picture. I can dream, can't I?--------Semper Fi,TerryRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: My Instrument Panel Layout
I still like the picture. I can dream, can't I?--------Semper Fi,TerryRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: My Instrument Panel Layout
Original Posted By: Kip and Beth Gardner
Kip,Luckily I was able to finagle everything in there, but it is a very tight sqeeze, especially because I put those brackets to hold the front seat shoulder harness in there also. Wish I had some photos to post but I lost some stuff when my computer crashed.Dan HelsperPuryear, TN -----Original Message-----
Kip,Luckily I was able to finagle everything in there, but it is a very tight sqeeze, especially because I put those brackets to hold the front seat shoulder harness in there also. Wish I had some photos to post but I lost some stuff when my computer crashed.Dan HelsperPuryear, TN -----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: My Instrument Panel Layout
Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
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Re: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Piet gathering...darn!
Original Posted By: gboothe5(at)comcast.net
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: bellcrank geometry>>> Ok .... i'm dying here> i've read the post about the slack in the elevator cables...> i'm confused>> the cables from the control stick to the bellcrank loose tension as imove the stick fore and aft.... pressure in the middle and way slack at theup and down positions...i don't get it... > this can't be right>> i can see where a tube with a rod end is nice>> i thought this was going to be the easy part>>> jeff>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Piet gathering...darn!
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: bellcrank geometry>>> Ok .... i'm dying here> i've read the post about the slack in the elevator cables...> i'm confused>> the cables from the control stick to the bellcrank loose tension as imove the stick fore and aft.... pressure in the middle and way slack at theup and down positions...i don't get it... > this can't be right>> i can see where a tube with a rod end is nice>> i thought this was going to be the easy part>>> jeff>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Piet gathering...darn!