Original Posted By: "Amsafetyc(at)aol.com"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Where are all the so cali pietsAnyone around La area got a Piet to show?Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Where are all the so cali piets
Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
This is great to hear that your plane will be taking to the skies, Matt. Like manyothers, when I began researching into the possibility of building a Piet,one of the inspiring sources of information was the four-part series of articlesthat you wrote for AVweb.Congratulations on finishing the construction process. Looking forward to hopefullyseeing your Piet fly in to Brodhead this summer (or maybe next).Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets
This is great to hear that your plane will be taking to the skies, Matt. Like manyothers, when I began researching into the possibility of building a Piet,one of the inspiring sources of information was the four-part series of articlesthat you wrote for AVweb.Congratulations on finishing the construction process. Looking forward to hopefullyseeing your Piet fly in to Brodhead this summer (or maybe next).Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets
Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Throw me an email. I have one just 1 hour north of LA. In fact I work in downtownLA. Perhaps we can at least meet for lunch while you are here.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets
Throw me an email. I have one just 1 hour north of LA. In fact I work in downtownLA. Perhaps we can at least meet for lunch while you are here.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets
Original Posted By: airlion
Opps, Here is my work email, scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org I am here from 5AM til 2:15PM.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 08:42:02 -0700 (PDT)
Opps, Here is my work email, scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org I am here from 5AM til 2:15PM.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 08:42:02 -0700 (PDT)
Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
i am just getting back to the piet project, i have been converting my 65 chevelleto a ls3 power plant and now thats done. The next step is to get the enginemounted, hope to do that in the next couple of weeks.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets
i am just getting back to the piet project, i have been converting my 65 chevelleto a ls3 power plant and now thats done. The next step is to get the enginemounted, hope to do that in the next couple of weeks.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets
> Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets
Original Posted By:> Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org
Scott=2C I have recently aquired a Pietenpol project with a C85-12. It has no prop and I wondered what you use and any advice? Thanks Lyle> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets
Scott=2C I have recently aquired a Pietenpol project with a C85-12. It has no prop and I wondered what you use and any advice? Thanks Lyle> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Hi Lyle,For 20 years I flew a Hegy 72x42. I broke it a couple of years ago. It was asad day. I then bought a Sterba, 72x42 but did not like its performance. I thinkhis props work better on fast planes with low drag. Ed Sterba is a standup guy. He re-pitched it for me but I still didn't like it. Long story short,he offered to buy it back from me. I got lucky and found a Hegy 72x44. Itwas good but I wanted more RPM since I fly in the Hot High Desert. Anyway, afriend of mine changed the airfoil and flattened the pitch for me and now worksgreat. To get directly to your question, I would look for a climb prop dueto the high drag of the airframe. It's also better for hauling passengers. I keep hearing great things about the Cloudcar Props. I even called him and almostordered one. Listening to the other guys on this site I believe that itwould be money well spent. They're also great to look at. My two cents rubbed together.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Hi Lyle,For 20 years I flew a Hegy 72x42. I broke it a couple of years ago. It was asad day. I then bought a Sterba, 72x42 but did not like its performance. I thinkhis props work better on fast planes with low drag. Ed Sterba is a standup guy. He re-pitched it for me but I still didn't like it. Long story short,he offered to buy it back from me. I got lucky and found a Hegy 72x44. Itwas good but I wanted more RPM since I fly in the Hot High Desert. Anyway, afriend of mine changed the airfoil and flattened the pitch for me and now worksgreat. To get directly to your question, I would look for a climb prop dueto the high drag of the airframe. It's also better for hauling passengers. I keep hearing great things about the Cloudcar Props. I even called him and almostordered one. Listening to the other guys on this site I believe that itwould be money well spent. They're also great to look at. My two cents rubbed together.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage question
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
As long as all the vertical uprights are perpendicular to the work surface,and the centerline of the bottom longerons lines up with the cernterline ofthe top longerons and everything is plumb and true, it doesn't matter.Remember, building an airplane is largely a series of exercises inalignment. As long as you are careful and keep things in alignment, theplane will fly straight and true. If things are out of line, no matter whatyou'll be flying a Chinese Cross Country (one wing low).Jack PhillipsNX899JP "Icarus Plummet"Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
As long as all the vertical uprights are perpendicular to the work surface,and the centerline of the bottom longerons lines up with the cernterline ofthe top longerons and everything is plumb and true, it doesn't matter.Remember, building an airplane is largely a series of exercises inalignment. As long as you are careful and keep things in alignment, theplane will fly straight and true. If things are out of line, no matter whatyou'll be flying a Chinese Cross Country (one wing low).Jack PhillipsNX899JP "Icarus Plummet"Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
> Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets
Original Posted By:> Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org
Great info thanks. I would love to fly the hot high desert...some day!Lyle> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets
Great info thanks. I would love to fly the hot high desert...some day!Lyle> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets
Original Posted By: "Robert Gow"
Lyle,I just noticed you are from Canada. I'll bet it can get cold there. It can geta little cold at my place. The coldest I've flown mine in was 21 degrees F.It was a 1 hour flight. I could hardly speak after I got out of the p[lane.My jaw was frozen. Brrr.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Lyle,I just noticed you are from Canada. I'll bet it can get cold there. It can geta little cold at my place. The coldest I've flown mine in was 21 degrees F.It was a 1 hour flight. I could hardly speak after I got out of the p[lane.My jaw was frozen. Brrr.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Here in Midland it has been only one month since the icebreaker came inand opened up the harbor. This time it was the US Coast Guard that camein. So thanks to all our American friends!Bob-----Original Message-----
Here in Midland it has been only one month since the icebreaker came inand opened up the harbor. This time it was the US Coast Guard that camein. So thanks to all our American friends!Bob-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> ity.org>> > Empty weight when new in 1972 was 600 lbs.> Empty weight after rebuild in 2001 was 670lbs.> Fuel burn at gross weight is between 5 GPH at 2300 RPM and 5.7 GPH at 2450 RPM and above. > I flight plan for 70 MPH for any cross country flights but usually cruising speed is 75-85 MPH. I averaged 70 MPH on my Brodhead trip in 1996. It also included 70 stops in about 13 states. I was gone 19 days. It would be fun to do again sometime. > > What else would you like to know? > > BTW=2C the weight gain is due to these items:> Heavier tubes and tires> Better seats> Hand held radio> ELT> Whoa Stick=2C (johnson bar hand brake on side of fuse)> Tow hook for hand propping> More paint> 10 lbs lead in nose for my fat butt.> > --------> Scott Liefeld> Flying N11MS since March 1972> Steel Tube> C-85-12> Wire Wheels> Brodhead in 1996> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 146#340146> > > > > > > ============================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> ity.org>> > Empty weight when new in 1972 was 600 lbs.> Empty weight after rebuild in 2001 was 670lbs.> Fuel burn at gross weight is between 5 GPH at 2300 RPM and 5.7 GPH at 2450 RPM and above. > I flight plan for 70 MPH for any cross country flights but usually cruising speed is 75-85 MPH. I averaged 70 MPH on my Brodhead trip in 1996. It also included 70 stops in about 13 states. I was gone 19 days. It would be fun to do again sometime. > > What else would you like to know? > > BTW=2C the weight gain is due to these items:> Heavier tubes and tires> Better seats> Hand held radio> ELT> Whoa Stick=2C (johnson bar hand brake on side of fuse)> Tow hook for hand propping> More paint> 10 lbs lead in nose for my fat butt.> > --------> Scott Liefeld> Flying N11MS since March 1972> Steel Tube> C-85-12> Wire Wheels> Brodhead in 1996> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 146#340146> > > > > > > ============================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets
Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> ity.org>> > Hi Lyle=2C> > For 20 years I flew a Hegy 72x42. I broke it a couple of years ago. It was a sad day. I then bought a Sterba=2C 72x42 but did not like its performance. I think his props work better on fast planes with low drag. Ed Sterba is a stand up guy. He re-pitched it for me but I still didn't like it. Long story short=2C he offered to buy it back from me. I got lucky and found a Hegy 72x44. It was good but I wanted more RPM since I fly in the Hot High Desert. Anyway=2C a friend of mine changed the airfoil and flattened the pitch for me and now works great. To get directly to your question=2C I would look for a climb prop due to the high drag of the airframe. It's also better for hauling passengers. I keep hearing great things about the Cloudcar Props. I even called him and almost ordered one. Listening to the other guys on this site I believe that it would be money well spent. They're also great to look at. > > My two cents rubbed together.> > --------> Scott Liefeld> Flying N11MS since March 1972> Steel Tube> C-85-12> Wire Wheels> Brodhead in 1996> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 166#340166> > > > > > > ============================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> ity.org>> > Hi Lyle=2C> > For 20 years I flew a Hegy 72x42. I broke it a couple of years ago. It was a sad day. I then bought a Sterba=2C 72x42 but did not like its performance. I think his props work better on fast planes with low drag. Ed Sterba is a stand up guy. He re-pitched it for me but I still didn't like it. Long story short=2C he offered to buy it back from me. I got lucky and found a Hegy 72x44. It was good but I wanted more RPM since I fly in the Hot High Desert. Anyway=2C a friend of mine changed the airfoil and flattened the pitch for me and now works great. To get directly to your question=2C I would look for a climb prop due to the high drag of the airframe. It's also better for hauling passengers. I keep hearing great things about the Cloudcar Props. I even called him and almost ordered one. Listening to the other guys on this site I believe that it would be money well spent. They're also great to look at. > > My two cents rubbed together.> > --------> Scott Liefeld> Flying N11MS since March 1972> Steel Tube> C-85-12> Wire Wheels> Brodhead in 1996> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 166#340166> > > > > > > ============================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets