Original Posted By: Gene Rambo
Yesterday 502Rocket and I were able to participate in flying EAA Young Eagles at the Hartford Balloon Rally. HXF is a great community airport with no fences and a welcoming attitude to the general public. Steve Krog has the Cub Air flight school there and of the 110 airplanes on the field, 85 are taildraggers. The City of Hartford and the Chamber of Commerce are really good to us so this is just a little thing we do every year to give back. Last year was my first time flying in the YE program with my Cub and I had a blast. We flew 184 kids last year. This year, I decided to give the Piet a chance to hop kids.We have had a dry summer in Wisconsin this year. In the last couple of months I can remember two weekends of rain; Brodhead and this weekend. We were supposed to run from 12 - 4 and it did not look good. The weather started to break a little after noon and couple of us went up and probed the skies. About 1:00 we had a 1,000 ft ceiling and all was a go. I took Rachel (my daughter) up so we could work out the intercom system. It never did work right. We landed and taxied to the gas pump (after avoiding the CAP goons). While I was fueling a camera crew from the local cable outlet came and interviewed me about the airplane. That was kind of fun. Kids were lining up and we had quite a few airplanes ready to go. =46rom memory I saw 4 J3s, a PA-12, Cherokee 140, F33 Bonanza, Cherokee Archer, Taylorcraft, two Luscombes, a Robinson R-44 and one Pietenpol. Given the weather we kept it a little closer to the field and in the Piet, that meant about a 20 minute ride. I was able to take up three kids before thunderstorms came back. With the weather challenges we were still able to give 94 rides.Observations: The three kids I took up all requested the open cockpit. Twelve year old kids should not be as fat as me. The Cub is much easier to load/unload. I am still working on MILF Eagles to coincide with YE. Lots of pretty moms want rides. The Piet makes a great ramp presence and overall was a success as a YE flyer.It was a blast.-john-http://www.cafepress.com/half_fastJohn HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2424 American LaneMadison, WI 53704Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Young Eagles
RE: Pietenpol-List: Young Eagles
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
JohnEAA is working on a new program to fly the "moms". This is very sim to theYoung Eagles Program and is directed toward adults. We don't have a name forit yet (maybe we can use yours), but watch for an announcement in the nearfuture. Good job on the YE flights.Barry DavisNX973BP _____
JohnEAA is working on a new program to fly the "moms". This is very sim to theYoung Eagles Program and is directed toward adults. We don't have a name forit yet (maybe we can use yours), but watch for an announcement in the nearfuture. Good job on the YE flights.Barry DavisNX973BP _____
RE: Pietenpol-List: Young Eagles
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Very cool, John. I like your idea of MILF Eagles. Glad to see 502 Rocketgetting some flight time.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____
Very cool, John. I like your idea of MILF Eagles. Glad to see 502 Rocketgetting some flight time.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____
Re: Pietenpol-List: Young Eagles
Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Hi Barry,For every kid there was a parent who wanted to go along as badly or more so than the child. The reality is any kid who wants to fly needs the backing of the parent and the money to finance it. A program for parents is a great idea. In September at Brodhead, at the GrassRoots fly-in, we are experimenting the the "Gray/Bald Eagles" idea and using it to give members rides. I think this could be very popular with pilots and adults.-john-John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2424 American LaneMadison, WI 53704Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Aug 15, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Barry Davis wrote:> John> EAA is working on a new program to fly the "moms". This is very sim to the Young Eagles Program and is directed toward adults. We don't have a name for it yet (maybe we can use yours), but watch for an announcement in the near future. Good job on the YE flights.> Barry Davis> NX973BP
Hi Barry,For every kid there was a parent who wanted to go along as badly or more so than the child. The reality is any kid who wants to fly needs the backing of the parent and the money to finance it. A program for parents is a great idea. In September at Brodhead, at the GrassRoots fly-in, we are experimenting the the "Gray/Bald Eagles" idea and using it to give members rides. I think this could be very popular with pilots and adults.-john-John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2424 American LaneMadison, WI 53704Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Aug 15, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Barry Davis wrote:> John> EAA is working on a new program to fly the "moms". This is very sim to the Young Eagles Program and is directed toward adults. We don't have a name for it yet (maybe we can use yours), but watch for an announcement in the near future. Good job on the YE flights.> Barry Davis> NX973BP
Re: Pietenpol-List: Thrust test
Original Posted By: gboothe5(at)comcast.net
List,With the able assistance of Southwest Captain, Dan Locker, and SouthwestPilot & Piet Builder, Curt Merdan, I conducted the static run-up / thrusttest; the idea, of which, was to check the performance on my home made prop.According to Dan Helsper's finely tuned fish scale, the full run-up yielded260 lbs. Any thoughts? Is that meaningful information?Gary ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Thrust test
List,With the able assistance of Southwest Captain, Dan Locker, and SouthwestPilot & Piet Builder, Curt Merdan, I conducted the static run-up / thrusttest; the idea, of which, was to check the performance on my home made prop.According to Dan Helsper's finely tuned fish scale, the full run-up yielded260 lbs. Any thoughts? Is that meaningful information?Gary ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Thrust test
Pietenpol-List: Re: Young Eagles
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Thrust test
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
I agree with all of the above... especially the MILF part. LOL! Anyhow, our chapter(10 - Tulsa) had similar results during Learn to Fly Day. Chapter 10 isbased at Gundy's Airport,which is also an open fence airport that welcomes neighborhoodkids and the public to come out, look around, ask questions, etc.Our event brought in ~250 people and we gave ~150 rides. 126 waivers were signed,but we know several people that took more than one ride, which we were okwith as long as others weren't waiting for their first. We had a Piet (actuallyDan Cork's Grega) on display, which drew a lot of attention but was not usedfor rides. The big hit... a 150hp Breezy. Everyone wanted to try that thing.I must say, it is a hoot. I guess I say all of this just to reinforce the idea that the adults want to playtoo. We did our best to advertise on TV, radio, fliers, etc., and althoughwe had just about as many as we could handle, we heard from several afterwardthat missed the event that were wondering when we would be doing it again. One thing I would like to suggest as we (EAA) discuss how to approach these newevents is that national consider kicking in for fuel like they do for Young Eagles.We had a good pilot turnout (thankfully), but as prices continue to behigh, some can't (or won't) afford to participate. Just something to considerthat might help make these events more successful.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Thrust test
I agree with all of the above... especially the MILF part. LOL! Anyhow, our chapter(10 - Tulsa) had similar results during Learn to Fly Day. Chapter 10 isbased at Gundy's Airport,which is also an open fence airport that welcomes neighborhoodkids and the public to come out, look around, ask questions, etc.Our event brought in ~250 people and we gave ~150 rides. 126 waivers were signed,but we know several people that took more than one ride, which we were okwith as long as others weren't waiting for their first. We had a Piet (actuallyDan Cork's Grega) on display, which drew a lot of attention but was not usedfor rides. The big hit... a 150hp Breezy. Everyone wanted to try that thing.I must say, it is a hoot. I guess I say all of this just to reinforce the idea that the adults want to playtoo. We did our best to advertise on TV, radio, fliers, etc., and althoughwe had just about as many as we could handle, we heard from several afterwardthat missed the event that were wondering when we would be doing it again. One thing I would like to suggest as we (EAA) discuss how to approach these newevents is that national consider kicking in for fuel like they do for Young Eagles.We had a good pilot turnout (thankfully), but as prices continue to behigh, some can't (or won't) afford to participate. Just something to considerthat might help make these events more successful.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Thrust test
Original Posted By: Gboothe5
Well Gary,At that thrust I can GUARANTEE that she will fly, because as you already know, that is what mine pulled on my test, with that very same fish scale. Congratulations!! You have a flyable airplane, and it will climb like the rocket that NX929DH is!!!Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
Well Gary,At that thrust I can GUARANTEE that she will fly, because as you already know, that is what mine pulled on my test, with that very same fish scale. Congratulations!! You have a flyable airplane, and it will climb like the rocket that NX929DH is!!!Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Thrust test
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Thanks, Dan! You=99ve been an inspiration and a real source of good info. Curt brought a video camera, and may post a few minutes, but I think his battery went dead after 2 or 3 minutes. I had a glitch in my =98tooth counter=99 and don=99t really know what rpm I was turning, but the throttle control said, =9CFAST.=9D Wing fit takes place this weekend, then fabric.Gary
Thanks, Dan! You=99ve been an inspiration and a real source of good info. Curt brought a video camera, and may post a few minutes, but I think his battery went dead after 2 or 3 minutes. I had a glitch in my =98tooth counter=99 and don=99t really know what rpm I was turning, but the throttle control said, =9CFAST.=9D Wing fit takes place this weekend, then fabric.Gary
Pietenpol-List: Re: Young Eagles
Original Posted By: Oscar Zuniga
The world's largest control line model airplane contest is known as the "Brodak'sFly In" in Carmichaels PA. There, for a fair number of years now, I essentiallyconducted a program similar to Young Eagles. I would run around and findkids and ask them if they wanted to fly. Usually, they were much to shy toask themselves. Greatest time ever, really really really enjoyed doing that. Over time, I wasgranted all sorts of lee way to do that, as technically there were all sorts ofcontest rules that made this a big no no.I also found over time, that if the kid was just too shy, if I got mom to fly,the kid would follow. Teaching someone control line model flying is much morea contact sport than getting someone in the cockpit of a Piet!ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
The world's largest control line model airplane contest is known as the "Brodak'sFly In" in Carmichaels PA. There, for a fair number of years now, I essentiallyconducted a program similar to Young Eagles. I would run around and findkids and ask them if they wanted to fly. Usually, they were much to shy toask themselves. Greatest time ever, really really really enjoyed doing that. Over time, I wasgranted all sorts of lee way to do that, as technically there were all sorts ofcontest rules that made this a big no no.I also found over time, that if the kid was just too shy, if I got mom to fly,the kid would follow. Teaching someone control line model flying is much morea contact sport than getting someone in the cockpit of a Piet!ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Siren song of the Aircamper: Young Eagles
Original Posted By: "Jerry Dotson"
Good stuff Ben and congrats on the 100 hours!--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Siren song of the Aircamper: Young Eagles
Good stuff Ben and congrats on the 100 hours!--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Siren song of the Aircamper: Young Eagles
Pietenpol-List: Re: Siren song of the Aircamper: Young Eagles
Original Posted By: "coxwelljon"
Ben I sure am proud of you and for you being able to take the kids flying. I commendeveryone who takes part in giving the young folks a taste of flying.It is great your mom is able to get in the front. What a hoot that must be.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009now covering21" wheelsLycoming O-235 C 2CJay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Siren song of the Aircamper: Young Eagles
Ben I sure am proud of you and for you being able to take the kids flying. I commendeveryone who takes part in giving the young folks a taste of flying.It is great your mom is able to get in the front. What a hoot that must be.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009now covering21" wheelsLycoming O-235 C 2CJay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Siren song of the Aircamper: Young Eagles
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Siren song of the Aircamper: Young Eagles
Original Posted By: Bryan Reed
Ben,That is a great story. I am so glad to hear that you are willing to spend timegetting the interest of young people. They are our future.Taking your mother for a ride in a Piet, what an experience. I'll bet she considersyou the most capable pilot she has ever know!--------Jon Coxwell GN-1 BuilderRecycle and preserve the planetRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 07:29:34 -0700Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Siren song of the Aircamper: Young Eagles
Ben,That is a great story. I am so glad to hear that you are willing to spend timegetting the interest of young people. They are our future.Taking your mother for a ride in a Piet, what an experience. I'll bet she considersyou the most capable pilot she has ever know!--------Jon Coxwell GN-1 BuilderRecycle and preserve the planetRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 07:29:34 -0700Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Siren song of the Aircamper: Young Eagles