Original Posted By: airlion
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Different thot about doorI saw a photo of a barnstorming Biplane that carried two or three in the frontseat. Open cockpit. But about where the "normal" Piet door was they had the opening,but no door. Just open.What would that do to drag? It would be lighter.Just a lurkerSteve "Be home soon" D________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 15:52:07 -0700 (PDT)
Pietenpol-List: Different thot about door
Re: Pietenpol-List: update
Original Posted By: gboothe5(at)comcast.net
Nothing wrong with using that many "I's" when you are talking about making progresson your rebuild! Keep it up, and keep us posted. Glad that you are stillflying in the 140 while you are getting the Piet back together.--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: update
Nothing wrong with using that many "I's" when you are talking about making progresson your rebuild! Keep it up, and keep us posted. Glad that you are stillflying in the 140 while you are getting the Piet back together.--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: update
RE: Pietenpol-List: update
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Great to hear, Gardiner. Karen and I really enjoyed your visit to our home- sorry that my hand injury prevented me from building all your ribs, but Ithink you're enjying building them yourself now.I'll try to get down to Triple Tree if I can, even if it's just in the RV-4.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virigina-----Original Message-----
Great to hear, Gardiner. Karen and I really enjoyed your visit to our home- sorry that my hand injury prevented me from building all your ribs, but Ithink you're enjying building them yourself now.I'll try to get down to Triple Tree if I can, even if it's just in the RV-4.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virigina-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: update
Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I think the "ayes" have it!Glad to hear about the excellent progress!Dan-- Dan Yocumyocum137(at)gmail.com"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."On Aug 18, 2011, at 6:15 PM, "Jack Phillips" wrote:> > Great to hear, Gardiner. Karen and I really enjoyed your visit to our home> - sorry that my hand injury prevented me from building all your ribs, but I> think you're enjying building them yourself now.> > I'll try to get down to Triple Tree if I can, even if it's just in the RV-4.> > Jack Phillips> NX899JP> Smith Mountain Lake, Virigina> > -----Original Message-----
I think the "ayes" have it!Glad to hear about the excellent progress!Dan-- Dan Yocumyocum137(at)gmail.com"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."On Aug 18, 2011, at 6:15 PM, "Jack Phillips" wrote:> > Great to hear, Gardiner. Karen and I really enjoyed your visit to our home> - sorry that my hand injury prevented me from building all your ribs, but I> think you're enjying building them yourself now.> > I'll try to get down to Triple Tree if I can, even if it's just in the RV-4.> > Jack Phillips> NX899JP> Smith Mountain Lake, Virigina> > -----Original Message-----
Original Posted By: Kip and Beth Gardner
I have a door in my steel tube piet. It's a great addition to the plane. I flyit quite often with the door open. The only noticeable difference is that Iget more wind up my pant leg. Bad thing to do in the winter though. Burrr!--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I have a door in my steel tube piet. It's a great addition to the plane. I flyit quite often with the door open. The only noticeable difference is that Iget more wind up my pant leg. Bad thing to do in the winter though. Burrr!--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Different thot about door
Original Posted By: "Mild Bill"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: External static portsDan asked->is anyone else using an external static port, or is >everyone just leaving the static ports open on the back of>their instruments?Dan, I just drilled small holes in some plastic plugs that fit the plumbing holes in the back of the altimeter and airspeed. I don't know whetherthat affected the accuracy of the indications - the altimeter is a 1-pointer non-sensitive instrument anyhow. All seems to work ok and a lot simpler. Based on my airspeed indications when Jack and Kevin and I flew up to Oshkosh, and what Jack was indicating, we were pretty close on our readings. Matt PaxtonNX629ML________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Different thot about door
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: External static portsDan asked->is anyone else using an external static port, or is >everyone just leaving the static ports open on the back of>their instruments?Dan, I just drilled small holes in some plastic plugs that fit the plumbing holes in the back of the altimeter and airspeed. I don't know whetherthat affected the accuracy of the indications - the altimeter is a 1-pointer non-sensitive instrument anyhow. All seems to work ok and a lot simpler. Based on my airspeed indications when Jack and Kevin and I flew up to Oshkosh, and what Jack was indicating, we were pretty close on our readings. Matt PaxtonNX629ML________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Different thot about door
Re: Pietenpol-List: external static port
Original Posted By: Hans Van Der Voort
"Air Camper, thy name is DRAG."Leaving the door off will add a cup of drag to a big bucketful of existing drag.'Tain't no big ting, mon.--------Bill FrankRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: external static port
"Air Camper, thy name is DRAG."Leaving the door off will add a cup of drag to a big bucketful of existing drag.'Tain't no big ting, mon.--------Bill FrankRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: external static port
Original Posted By: helspersew
Mark langford has a method on his website to check and calibrate an ASIhttp://www.n56ml.com/airspeed_calibration/Hans ... --Original Message-----
Mark langford has a method on his website to check and calibrate an ASIhttp://www.n56ml.com/airspeed_calibration/Hans ... --Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Different thot about door
Original Posted By: "Mild Bill"
Yeah! I was wondering why anyone would be troubled by additional drag on a Piet. It would be like spitting in the ocean.----- Original Message -----
Yeah! I was wondering why anyone would be troubled by additional drag on a Piet. It would be like spitting in the ocean.----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Different thot about door
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Different thot about door
Original Posted By: Doug Dever
Ouch, a brick just hit me in the head. Funny Mike--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Ouch, a brick just hit me in the head. Funny Mike--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Different thot about door
Original Posted By: "Charles Campbell"
Dan is quite correct....>> Meh. You guys need to forget about the door. Here's the reason why - > none of the passengers in this picture needed a door to get into Greg's > Air Camper:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... e75f8fd395>> Looks like an excellent reason to forego the door - it limits the > passengers to a small subset of people!>> Dan>________________________________________________________________________________
Dan is quite correct....>> Meh. You guys need to forget about the door. Here's the reason why - > none of the passengers in this picture needed a door to get into Greg's > Air Camper:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... e75f8fd395>> Looks like an excellent reason to forego the door - it limits the > passengers to a small subset of people!>> Dan>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Different thot about door
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com > > > Bill, > > I agree with you, open and closing with bolts it's an uncomfortable idea, but I think (I did't see any statistic about) that the major time the piets fly with just the pilot.. about dimenssions, of course, it just an idea, not a design. > I do not messure anything yet, i am going to do it.. so from yours three points I am going to see 2, the lenght of the fitting, and how to fix the square tube to the wood without damage to much de longeron. > > -------- > Mario Giacummo > http://vgmk1.blogspot.com > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 859#349859 > > > Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, >=== > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Different thot about door
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com > > > Bill, > > I agree with you, open and closing with bolts it's an uncomfortable idea, but I think (I did't see any statistic about) that the major time the piets fly with just the pilot.. about dimenssions, of course, it just an idea, not a design. > I do not messure anything yet, i am going to do it.. so from yours three points I am going to see 2, the lenght of the fitting, and how to fix the square tube to the wood without damage to much de longeron. > > -------- > Mario Giacummo > http://vgmk1.blogspot.com > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 859#349859 > > > Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, >=== > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Different thot about door