Original Posted By: johnwoods(at)westnet.com.au
I snooped around online for the Fastbond and found it alright, but nothing lessthan5 gal. pail of the product. When you find it in a quart, it's like $230!Makes nosense when the 5 gal. pail is $45.Any good source for a quart at a decent price? I'm not doing fabric work at themoment,but getting ready to start on a pair of skin-on-wood-frame kayaks thatusepolyester fabric over the frame. Most people staple the fabric but I thinkcementwould be much nicer and thought I might try the Fastbond.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"Medford, ORwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 10:27:44 +0800 (WST)
Pietenpol-List: 3M Fastbond 30-NF
Re: Pietenpol-List: 3M Fastbond 30-NF
Original Posted By: Woodflier(at)aol.com
For what it's worth the Stewart glue I have looksand behaves just like the waterbased contactcement I used some years ago to glue arborite.Clif I snooped around online for the Fastbond and found it alright, but nothing less than5 gal. pail of the product. When you find it in a quart, it's like $230! Makes nosense when the 5 gal. pail is $45.>> Oscar Zuniga________________________________________________________________________________
For what it's worth the Stewart glue I have looksand behaves just like the waterbased contactcement I used some years ago to glue arborite.Clif I snooped around online for the Fastbond and found it alright, but nothing less than5 gal. pail of the product. When you find it in a quart, it's like $230! Makes nosense when the 5 gal. pail is $45.>> Oscar Zuniga________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: First Flight In The Piet For Lynne
Original Posted By: "Jerry Dotson"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: First Flight In The Piet For LynneMy wife, Lynne, got her first flight in NX629ML today. It was a gorgeous early fall day, not too cool, with no wind and 50 mile visibility. She was a bit nervous about it, and felt a little claustrophobic in the front cockpit but she did great and once we were airborne, enjoyed the flight. We were only up for about 20 minutes. Flew out and around a mountain close to the field, over a friend's strip and then back home, never over 1000 AGL. I don'tknow that she'll be a regular passenger but I really have wanted her to experience flying in it since I got the time flown off. A good day!Matt Paxton________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: First Flight In The Piet For Lynne
Subject: Pietenpol-List: First Flight In The Piet For LynneMy wife, Lynne, got her first flight in NX629ML today. It was a gorgeous early fall day, not too cool, with no wind and 50 mile visibility. She was a bit nervous about it, and felt a little claustrophobic in the front cockpit but she did great and once we were airborne, enjoyed the flight. We were only up for about 20 minutes. Flew out and around a mountain close to the field, over a friend's strip and then back home, never over 1000 AGL. I don'tknow that she'll be a regular passenger but I really have wanted her to experience flying in it since I got the time flown off. A good day!Matt Paxton________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: First Flight In The Piet For Lynne
Original Posted By: Jim Boyer
Matt congratulations on reaching yet another milestone. I am not ready to fly yetbut not real sure what it would take for my wife to go for a flight. She hasnever flown in anything smaller than a commuter jet and she don't like them.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009now covering21" wheelsLycoming O-235 C 2CJay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 20:48:11 +0000 (UTC)
Matt congratulations on reaching yet another milestone. I am not ready to fly yetbut not real sure what it would take for my wife to go for a flight. She hasnever flown in anything smaller than a commuter jet and she don't like them.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009now covering21" wheelsLycoming O-235 C 2CJay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 20:48:11 +0000 (UTC)
RE: Pietenpol-List: First Flight In The Piet For Lynne
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Good job, Matt!!Gary from Cool
Good job, Matt!!Gary from Cool
RE: Pietenpol-List: First Flight In The Piet For Lynne
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Way to go, Matt! I'm sure this won't be the last time you get Lynne up init. Now you've got to get her to taking trips in it. I suggest you bringher over to Smith Mountain Lake some weekend when we are there. She'llenjoy that beautiful flight through the notch in the Blue Ridge Mountains atBalcony Falls.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____
Way to go, Matt! I'm sure this won't be the last time you get Lynne up init. Now you've got to get her to taking trips in it. I suggest you bringher over to Smith Mountain Lake some weekend when we are there. She'llenjoy that beautiful flight through the notch in the Blue Ridge Mountains atBalcony Falls.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____
Pietenpol-List: Re: First Flight In The Piet For Lynne
Original Posted By: TOM MICHELLE BRANT
Congrats...!Now all I have to do is complete my Pietenpol, fly off the hours, and find a wife..................thenI can share in a similar experience......!--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Congrats...!Now all I have to do is complete my Pietenpol, fly off the hours, and find a wife..................thenI can share in a similar experience......!--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: wings about to take shape
Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
Well=2C this is my semi-annual post to the list.. A couple of photos of the center section in progress.Tonight I spent a little time prepping the ribs for wing assembly. I believe I may have the most expensive spars out there... I tried to go the "cheap" route and get wood from Mckormicks - wood looked great until it was planed and then had too many defects. Then I tried a local place that stocks fir - same deal. I even tried gluing some of the fir up to remove the defects and had a gluing mishap that ruined the spar I was working on - long story... Anyway=2C finally I broke down and ordered from Aircraft Spruce. Expecting the spars to arrive soon so once again I'm getting some enthusiasm going.I've researched on here a bit about the rib / spar connection and didn't seem to find a definitive answer on whether to glue or just nail the ribs to the spars. I believe there are some flying examples where people have not glued but I think the Tony Bengilis books talk about gluing the vertical rib member to the spar. Anyone care to weigh in on this?I've built a 4'-0" center section and my outer spars will be 12'-4" long each - for some reason I believed that I wanted extra fuel capacity in the CC so that's how I built it. Now I'm wondering if I'd ever want to sit in the plane that long...I was going over my logbook a little bit and I can't believe I started this in 2000. The ribs were built 6 years ago=2C the tail about 8 years ago=2C the fuselage is now in 5th grade - 11 years... Not a whole lot has gone on since my son was born in 06' but I keep slowly chipping away. I guess I did put a bit of time and money into the engine - which I ended up selling...What a ride it is to build your own airplane. At this rate you'll all see my Piet at the 2022 Brodhead reunion - that is of course if we all live through 2012.I'll update once I get a good start on the wings. Should be interesting. Hopefully the truck will arrive soon - I can't wait.Tom B. ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 23:18:04 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wings about to take shape
Well=2C this is my semi-annual post to the list.. A couple of photos of the center section in progress.Tonight I spent a little time prepping the ribs for wing assembly. I believe I may have the most expensive spars out there... I tried to go the "cheap" route and get wood from Mckormicks - wood looked great until it was planed and then had too many defects. Then I tried a local place that stocks fir - same deal. I even tried gluing some of the fir up to remove the defects and had a gluing mishap that ruined the spar I was working on - long story... Anyway=2C finally I broke down and ordered from Aircraft Spruce. Expecting the spars to arrive soon so once again I'm getting some enthusiasm going.I've researched on here a bit about the rib / spar connection and didn't seem to find a definitive answer on whether to glue or just nail the ribs to the spars. I believe there are some flying examples where people have not glued but I think the Tony Bengilis books talk about gluing the vertical rib member to the spar. Anyone care to weigh in on this?I've built a 4'-0" center section and my outer spars will be 12'-4" long each - for some reason I believed that I wanted extra fuel capacity in the CC so that's how I built it. Now I'm wondering if I'd ever want to sit in the plane that long...I was going over my logbook a little bit and I can't believe I started this in 2000. The ribs were built 6 years ago=2C the tail about 8 years ago=2C the fuselage is now in 5th grade - 11 years... Not a whole lot has gone on since my son was born in 06' but I keep slowly chipping away. I guess I did put a bit of time and money into the engine - which I ended up selling...What a ride it is to build your own airplane. At this rate you'll all see my Piet at the 2022 Brodhead reunion - that is of course if we all live through 2012.I'll update once I get a good start on the wings. Should be interesting. Hopefully the truck will arrive soon - I can't wait.Tom B. ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 23:18:04 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wings about to take shape
Pietenpol-List: Re: wings about to take shape
Original Posted By: "tdudley(at)umn.edu"
Hi Tom,Well, you are ahead of me, even if we started at about the same time : ( I'll get there eventually if the farm doesn't do me in first!I agree with Ryan - don't glue the ribs to the spars - not necessary & you actually want things to flex & 'give' a little when you get to tramelling the wing. Plus you may need to move a rib slightly to prevent a cable from rubbing or something, so why lock yourself into plan A when you may need to go to plan B? (Most of my life operates on Plans C-Z, but that's another matter! )Kip GardnerOn Oct 10, 2011, at 12:28 AM, Jim Boyer wrote:> Hi Tom,> Your center section looks good. I wish I had made my center section > larger for more fuel. Now I am trying to find how big a nose tank I > can put in.> I ordered my plans in 2000 so we have about the same vintage. Good > building; hope to see yours and mine done.> Cheers,> Jim B.>>________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wings about to take shape
Hi Tom,Well, you are ahead of me, even if we started at about the same time : ( I'll get there eventually if the farm doesn't do me in first!I agree with Ryan - don't glue the ribs to the spars - not necessary & you actually want things to flex & 'give' a little when you get to tramelling the wing. Plus you may need to move a rib slightly to prevent a cable from rubbing or something, so why lock yourself into plan A when you may need to go to plan B? (Most of my life operates on Plans C-Z, but that's another matter! )Kip GardnerOn Oct 10, 2011, at 12:28 AM, Jim Boyer wrote:> Hi Tom,> Your center section looks good. I wish I had made my center section > larger for more fuel. Now I am trying to find how big a nose tank I > can put in.> I ordered my plans in 2000 so we have about the same vintage. Good > building; hope to see yours and mine done.> Cheers,> Jim B.>>________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wings about to take shape
Original Posted By: airlion
Tom B.I appreciate your post. I have the same question about attachment of the rib tothe spar but you beat me to it. Like yourself, I just ordered spars for thewing from Aircraft Spruce this week (Wednesday). Judging from your center section,you went with the 3/4" unrouted spars? That's what I ultimately decidedto do after much consideration. If I remember correctly from previous posts,are you from Minnesota? If so, maybe we could get together and I could seeyour project. I'm hoping the truck from Aircraft Spruce comes quickly!Tom D.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 04:55:25 -0700 (PDT)
Tom B.I appreciate your post. I have the same question about attachment of the rib tothe spar but you beat me to it. Like yourself, I just ordered spars for thewing from Aircraft Spruce this week (Wednesday). Judging from your center section,you went with the 3/4" unrouted spars? That's what I ultimately decidedto do after much consideration. If I remember correctly from previous posts,are you from Minnesota? If so, maybe we could get together and I could seeyour project. I'm hoping the truck from Aircraft Spruce comes quickly!Tom D.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 04:55:25 -0700 (PDT)
Pietenpol-List: wings about to take shape
Original Posted By: "TOM STINEMETZE"