Original Posted By: "C N Campbell"
Hey Guys.... I'm still fighting this water overflow problem on the ford A... I'mstarting to wonder if the problem is the angle of the engine on the ground..?I ran today.. at full power after a couple of minutes i believe.. I started gettingwater overflowing again. Its killing me.. I want to fly but not if there's a problem.. I added a "steam pipe " to the front of the head... slowed down the pump a bitand still after a bit of a run at full power... water out of the overflow. andat temps below 180. I'm wondering if i'm getting a steam pocket in the head.Do i need to raise the tail to do a long full power run ?? Am i creating my own problem ?i see why the air cooled engines win out sometimes... i love the A.. runs great....but this is baffling me jeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Model A water prob
Re: Pietenpol-List: Model A water prob
Original Posted By: "bender"
jeff, try a fast taxi with the tail up when it's overflowing like that with the tail down. Maybe that would show you if it's just a ground angle thing. If it quits overflowing with the tail up you got it made. Too much water in the system? I don't know anything about water-cooled engines -- I'm an air-cooled fan. Chuck----- Original Message -----
jeff, try a fast taxi with the tail up when it's overflowing like that with the tail down. Maybe that would show you if it's just a ground angle thing. If it quits overflowing with the tail up you got it made. Too much water in the system? I don't know anything about water-cooled engines -- I'm an air-cooled fan. Chuck----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Model A water prob
Original Posted By: "bender"
Jeff, this happens a lot on Model A cars, as you probably know, and is usually due to the radiator being plugged with rust, etc, to the point it can't flow all the water being pumped to it. Hope this isn't the case with your radiator, but maybe something to check. Larry----- Original Message -----
Jeff, this happens a lot on Model A cars, as you probably know, and is usually due to the radiator being plugged with rust, etc, to the point it can't flow all the water being pumped to it. Hope this isn't the case with your radiator, but maybe something to check. Larry----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A water prob
Original Posted By: "bender"
Douwe,Here is a good article about airspeed calibration techniques, similar to what Stevesaid. Did not whether or not you had seen this before-http://experimenter.epubxp.com/i/90184The artucle is on Page 50.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A water prob
Douwe,Here is a good article about airspeed calibration techniques, similar to what Stevesaid. Did not whether or not you had seen this before-http://experimenter.epubxp.com/i/90184The artucle is on Page 50.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A water prob
Re: Pietenpol-List: Model A water prob
Original Posted By: bender
You might give Ken Perkins a call. He has a lot of model A experience. Phone is: 913 764-6949-----Original Message-----
You might give Ken Perkins a call. He has a lot of model A experience. Phone is: 913 764-6949-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Model A water prob
Original Posted By: Jack
Here's one of ours from Nav Canada."standard" or "plain english" Take your pickTry ithttp://www.flightplanning.navcanada.ca/cgi-bin ... =htmlInput CYVR for the nearest to Meself.Clif> UNCLASSIFIED> LIB som1 lse hs t sam prllem ah hv wi the shrt hnd ov wx brfs. Ah h8 rdg > te *&^%$#$(^$ tings. How archaic.>> SKC> STV D One of the most arcane things about flight preparation and execution is deciphering the @#$%& weather forecasts and printouts. It's all in abbreviated, truncated English or it invokes strange symbols and abbreviations representing each type of weather phenomenon. >> Oscar Zuniga________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model A water prob
Here's one of ours from Nav Canada."standard" or "plain english" Take your pickTry ithttp://www.flightplanning.navcanada.ca/cgi-bin ... =htmlInput CYVR for the nearest to Meself.Clif> UNCLASSIFIED> LIB som1 lse hs t sam prllem ah hv wi the shrt hnd ov wx brfs. Ah h8 rdg > te *&^%$#$(^$ tings. How archaic.>> SKC> STV D One of the most arcane things about flight preparation and execution is deciphering the @#$%& weather forecasts and printouts. It's all in abbreviated, truncated English or it invokes strange symbols and abbreviations representing each type of weather phenomenon. >> Oscar Zuniga________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model A water prob
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A water prob
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
Jeff, obvious but...is the plumping hooked up correctly?Sent from my iPadJack TextorOn Apr 23, 2013, at 4:49 PM, "bender" wrote:> > Hey Guys.... I'm still fighting this water overflow problem on the ford A...I'm starting to wonder if the problem is the angle of the engine on the ground..?> I ran today.. at full power after a couple of minutes i believe.. I started gettingwater overflowing again. > Its killing me.. I want to fly but not if there's a problem.. > I added a "steam pipe " to the front of the head... slowed down the pump a bitand still after a bit of a run at full power... water out of the overflow. andat temps below 180. I'm wondering if i'm getting a steam pocket in the head.Do i need to raise the tail to do a long full power run ?? > Am i creating my own problem ?> > i see why the air cooled engines win out sometimes... i love the A.. runs great....but this is baffling me > > jeff> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 251#399251> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A water prob
Jeff, obvious but...is the plumping hooked up correctly?Sent from my iPadJack TextorOn Apr 23, 2013, at 4:49 PM, "bender" wrote:> > Hey Guys.... I'm still fighting this water overflow problem on the ford A...I'm starting to wonder if the problem is the angle of the engine on the ground..?> I ran today.. at full power after a couple of minutes i believe.. I started gettingwater overflowing again. > Its killing me.. I want to fly but not if there's a problem.. > I added a "steam pipe " to the front of the head... slowed down the pump a bitand still after a bit of a run at full power... water out of the overflow. andat temps below 180. I'm wondering if i'm getting a steam pocket in the head.Do i need to raise the tail to do a long full power run ?? > Am i creating my own problem ?> > i see why the air cooled engines win out sometimes... i love the A.. runs great....but this is baffling me > > jeff> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 251#399251> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A water prob
Original Posted By: bender
Jeff,Mine did the same thing, but seems to be less of a problem lately. When the water level finds the zone it stops. I flew all those rides last year at Brodhead with no problems. I only recall adding a water bottle full of water the whole weekend. Go fly and see how it goes.Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
Jeff,Mine did the same thing, but seems to be less of a problem lately. When the water level finds the zone it stops. I flew all those rides last year at Brodhead with no problems. I only recall adding a water bottle full of water the whole weekend. Go fly and see how it goes.Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A water prob
Original Posted By: Gardiner
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Ok. . After staring at my engine this morning it came to me. . The elbow in thetop hose from the engine to the radiator was actually higher than the radiatorwith the tail on the ground. . So i made a new fitting. .I ran the engine fullpower on the ground. .. raised the tail with forward stick and no overflow.. Back on the ground it overflows. .I think it's a steam pocket from the lackof flow to the front of the head. My steam pipe is only a 3/8 tube. . I'm thinkingit may need to be larger. .But the run with the tail up slightly showed that it would probably be ok in flightJeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Ok. . After staring at my engine this morning it came to me. . The elbow in thetop hose from the engine to the radiator was actually higher than the radiatorwith the tail on the ground. . So i made a new fitting. .I ran the engine fullpower on the ground. .. raised the tail with forward stick and no overflow.. Back on the ground it overflows. .I think it's a steam pocket from the lackof flow to the front of the head. My steam pipe is only a 3/8 tube. . I'm thinkingit may need to be larger. .But the run with the tail up slightly showed that it would probably be ok in flightJeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A water prob
Original Posted By: "bender"
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> om>> > Just wondering what everyone is using for axle thickness for straight gear piets? Mine is 1-1/2" x .120 wall chromolly and I can see it flexing just sitting there.....i know somebody on here broke an axle and increased it to 3/16 wall......> > --------> NX321LR> Fully Assembled> Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.> Wings covered and primed=2C one painted> Mitsubishi Powered> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 294#399294> > > > > > > ============================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A water prob
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> om>> > Just wondering what everyone is using for axle thickness for straight gear piets? Mine is 1-1/2" x .120 wall chromolly and I can see it flexing just sitting there.....i know somebody on here broke an axle and increased it to 3/16 wall......> > --------> NX321LR> Fully Assembled> Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.> Wings covered and primed=2C one painted> Mitsubishi Powered> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 294#399294> > > > > > > ============================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A water prob