Original Posted By: TOM MICHELLE BRANT
Bill; I'd be curious to hear more about the flexing wing discussion. I'm not surehow that translates back to the cabanes and their bracing.Next July I plan to fly Scout to the event at Arlington that used to be the Northwestfly-in. That is, if I survive the West Coast fly-in down to Frazier Lakenext June ;o)In January 2014 I will have officially entered early geezerhood... eligible forSocial Security ;o) I will reward myself with some x-c flying in 2014.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Control system bearings
Pietenpol-List: Control system bearings
Original Posted By: "skipgadd(at)earthlink.net"
What are people using for bearings in the control system. For the torque tubeI thought some 1" .049 tube would work but seems a bit loose. Could machine somethingdown from a thicker tube or look into a buyout part. Curious what othersare using.Tom B.________________________________________________________________________________
What are people using for bearings in the control system. For the torque tubeI thought some 1" .049 tube would work but seems a bit loose. Could machine somethingdown from a thicker tube or look into a buyout part. Curious what othersare using.Tom B.________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Control system bearings
Original Posted By:> TOM MICHELLE BRANT
Tom,.058 is the magic size. The ID of any size will fit the OD of the nextsmaller size.Skip> [Original Message]
Tom,.058 is the magic size. The ID of any size will fit the OD of the nextsmaller size.Skip> [Original Message]
Pietenpol-List: Re: NX626E
Original Posted By: "BYD"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cowling reinstall UNCLASSIFIEDGentlemen and Oscar, I have started working on the cowling. When Attached, thebottom cowling (chin) attaches easily. But the portion around the prop looks likeit is sticking too far forward and will interfere with the prop right aroundwhere the prop bolts are. It does not improve when I add the top portion ofthe cowling. The design appears to me that it needs to be back enough to putsmall Rclips to attach the top to the bottom next to the prop. It is also tight against the air filter and seems not square to the filter. Any Ideas before a take a BFH to it to hammer it into shape?Blue Skies,Steve DUNCLASSIFIED________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: NX626E
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cowling reinstall UNCLASSIFIEDGentlemen and Oscar, I have started working on the cowling. When Attached, thebottom cowling (chin) attaches easily. But the portion around the prop looks likeit is sticking too far forward and will interfere with the prop right aroundwhere the prop bolts are. It does not improve when I add the top portion ofthe cowling. The design appears to me that it needs to be back enough to putsmall Rclips to attach the top to the bottom next to the prop. It is also tight against the air filter and seems not square to the filter. Any Ideas before a take a BFH to it to hammer it into shape?Blue Skies,Steve DUNCLASSIFIED________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: NX626E
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
Cool. I just entered geezerhood myself and can relate that its fine. As far asthe flexing wing discussion, Vi related that with just the cross bracing forthe cabanes, he felt the fuselage in a sense could yaw while the wing continuesstraight (my description not his). I suppose in turns but dont remember himsaying that. He did mention that at first it could be a little unnerving.Myself, Ive pretty much stayed away from Arlington since it grew into the thirdlargest aviation event in the nation. Its part of that geezerhood mentality.The more pages an event has in its NOTAM, the less likely I am to attend. Illtry to pay attention if you come up and maybe intercept you at a fuel stopor something.BillRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Cool. I just entered geezerhood myself and can relate that its fine. As far asthe flexing wing discussion, Vi related that with just the cross bracing forthe cabanes, he felt the fuselage in a sense could yaw while the wing continuesstraight (my description not his). I suppose in turns but dont remember himsaying that. He did mention that at first it could be a little unnerving.Myself, Ive pretty much stayed away from Arlington since it grew into the thirdlargest aviation event in the nation. Its part of that geezerhood mentality.The more pages an event has in its NOTAM, the less likely I am to attend. Illtry to pay attention if you come up and maybe intercept you at a fuel stopor something.BillRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Cowling reinstall
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Bill,Where are you located "in the West"?Ray KrauseSkyScout in progressColusa, CASent from my iPadOn Aug 25, 2013, at 7:20 PM, "BYD" wrote:> > Cool. I just entered geezerhood myself and can relate that its fine. As faras the flexing wing discussion, Vi related that with just the cross bracing forthe cabanes, he felt the fuselage in a sense could yaw while the wing continuesstraight (my description not his). I suppose in turns but dont rememberhim saying that. He did mention that at first it could be a little unnerving.> > Myself, Ive pretty much stayed away from Arlington since it grew into the thirdlargest aviation event in the nation. Its part of that geezerhood mentality.The more pages an event has in its NOTAM, the less likely I am to attend.Ill try to pay attention if you come up and maybe intercept you at a fuel stopor something.> > Bill> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 476#407476> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cowling reinstall
Bill,Where are you located "in the West"?Ray KrauseSkyScout in progressColusa, CASent from my iPadOn Aug 25, 2013, at 7:20 PM, "BYD" wrote:> > Cool. I just entered geezerhood myself and can relate that its fine. As faras the flexing wing discussion, Vi related that with just the cross bracing forthe cabanes, he felt the fuselage in a sense could yaw while the wing continuesstraight (my description not his). I suppose in turns but dont rememberhim saying that. He did mention that at first it could be a little unnerving.> > Myself, Ive pretty much stayed away from Arlington since it grew into the thirdlargest aviation event in the nation. Its part of that geezerhood mentality.The more pages an event has in its NOTAM, the less likely I am to attend.Ill try to pay attention if you come up and maybe intercept you at a fuel stopor something.> > Bill> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 476#407476> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cowling reinstall
Pietenpol-List: Re: NX626E
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Steve (and gentlemen)-Put down the BFH. Sit and listen. When I first installed (re-installed) the cowlingson Scout, I had the same experience as you did. The bottom half wenton quite well (after I weaseled and scooched and prayed it into place around theexhaust stacks, filter, and air box), and I secured it to the four bosses thatattach it to the firewall so that it would not move. Then I started withthe top half.I can take some pictures of the setup on Scout, and in fact I'm pretty sure thatI already have some if I can find them, but the front of the cowling sits prettyclose to the back of the prop bolts and all those whirling things. Not soclose that they rub, but pretty close just the same. My top and bottom halvesare fastened together at the front with about 3 PK screws and Tinnerman nutson each side of the hole where the prop flange shaft comes through, so theyaren't going anywhere.I'm thinking pictures may be quite useful here, so I'll see what I've got. Donot employ the BFH; we are craftsmen, not cavemen. At any rate, only employ theBFH when the hangar doors are closed and Tech Counselors cannot observe youractions.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: NX626E
Steve (and gentlemen)-Put down the BFH. Sit and listen. When I first installed (re-installed) the cowlingson Scout, I had the same experience as you did. The bottom half wenton quite well (after I weaseled and scooched and prayed it into place around theexhaust stacks, filter, and air box), and I secured it to the four bosses thatattach it to the firewall so that it would not move. Then I started withthe top half.I can take some pictures of the setup on Scout, and in fact I'm pretty sure thatI already have some if I can find them, but the front of the cowling sits prettyclose to the back of the prop bolts and all those whirling things. Not soclose that they rub, but pretty close just the same. My top and bottom halvesare fastened together at the front with about 3 PK screws and Tinnerman nutson each side of the hole where the prop flange shaft comes through, so theyaren't going anywhere.I'm thinking pictures may be quite useful here, so I'll see what I've got. Donot employ the BFH; we are craftsmen, not cavemen. At any rate, only employ theBFH when the hangar doors are closed and Tech Counselors cannot observe youractions.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: NX626E
Pietenpol-List: Re: NX626E
Original Posted By: "BYD"
>From what I find on the FAA aircraft registry database, Bill is based in Gig Harbor,WA. He can probably see Tacoma across the narrows to the east. Bill,I would be perfectly happy to skip the big event at Arlington and just visit withfriends instead. It would probably be cheaper, and undoubtedly less stressful;o) I have a friend over on the Oly Pen in Port Angeles with his own strip,my friend Kyle Rash is over on Rosario Strait in Anacortes, and I have somany other friends up in Washington state that I'd like to visit (including JakeSchultz in Bellevue)-!You're talking me out of trying to go to a big fly-in and have fun instead. Goodfor you! Pietenpols forever!--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: NX626E
>From what I find on the FAA aircraft registry database, Bill is based in Gig Harbor,WA. He can probably see Tacoma across the narrows to the east. Bill,I would be perfectly happy to skip the big event at Arlington and just visit withfriends instead. It would probably be cheaper, and undoubtedly less stressful;o) I have a friend over on the Oly Pen in Port Angeles with his own strip,my friend Kyle Rash is over on Rosario Strait in Anacortes, and I have somany other friends up in Washington state that I'd like to visit (including JakeSchultz in Bellevue)-!You're talking me out of trying to go to a big fly-in and have fun instead. Goodfor you! Pietenpols forever!--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: NX626E
Re: Pietenpol-List: Control system bearings
Original Posted By: TOM MICHELLE BRANT
Hi Pieters,Since there was some talk last week of air racing a Piet I thought I would giveVintage air racing a try myself. The attached pic is the winners sitting onthe podium. Yes the Blue and yellow planes came in second and third. Yes thispast Saturday was a great day. If you guys should ever find your way to Flabob airport in Southern CA, don't misslooking at the wonderful air racers. They are amazing.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/resi ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Control system bearings
Hi Pieters,Since there was some talk last week of air racing a Piet I thought I would giveVintage air racing a try myself. The attached pic is the winners sitting onthe podium. Yes the Blue and yellow planes came in second and third. Yes thispast Saturday was a great day. If you guys should ever find your way to Flabob airport in Southern CA, don't misslooking at the wonderful air racers. They are amazing.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/resi ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Control system bearings
Original Posted By:>> TOM MICHELLE BRANT
Skip, thanks.. Had I done the math I'd have seen that.. Apparently I did do themath prior to placing my order cause my invoice shows .058 material, but ASSsent me .049. Didn't notice until now. Better check everything.Tom B.Sent from my iPadOn Aug 25, 2013, at 4:49 PM, "skipgadd(at)earthlink.net" wrote:> > Tom,> .058 is the magic size. The ID of any size will fit the OD of the next> smaller size.> Skip> > >> [Original Message]
Skip, thanks.. Had I done the math I'd have seen that.. Apparently I did do themath prior to placing my order cause my invoice shows .058 material, but ASSsent me .049. Didn't notice until now. Better check everything.Tom B.Sent from my iPadOn Aug 25, 2013, at 4:49 PM, "skipgadd(at)earthlink.net" wrote:> > Tom,> .058 is the magic size. The ID of any size will fit the OD of the next> smaller size.> Skip> > >> [Original Message]
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: NX626E
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
Thanks, Bill. I thought that if you were in CA, I might fire up the Waiex and visityou, but two States away is a bit much for this local flyer this summer.I would sure love to see your Piet , especially those run-up brakes!Ray KrauseSkyScout in progress.Sent from my iPadOn Aug 25, 2013, at 10:22 PM, "BYD" wrote:> > Indeed, I live in Gig Harbor across the narrows from Tacoma, WA and Oscar, Idon't mean to talk you out of attending a great event - I only meant that it isnot my cup of tea. You could easily attend it and visit your friends on thesame trip if you're inclined.> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 481#407481> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Thanks, Bill. I thought that if you were in CA, I might fire up the Waiex and visityou, but two States away is a bit much for this local flyer this summer.I would sure love to see your Piet , especially those run-up brakes!Ray KrauseSkyScout in progress.Sent from my iPadOn Aug 25, 2013, at 10:22 PM, "BYD" wrote:> > Indeed, I live in Gig Harbor across the narrows from Tacoma, WA and Oscar, Idon't mean to talk you out of attending a great event - I only meant that it isnot my cup of tea. You could easily attend it and visit your friends on thesame trip if you're inclined.> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 481#407481> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
> Pietenpol-List: Control system bearings
Original Posted By: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB"
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Control system bearings>>> What are people using for bearings in the control system. For the torquetube I thought some 1" .049 tube would work but seems a bit loose. Couldmachine something down from a thicker tube or look into a buyout part. Curious what others are using.>> Tom B.>>________________________________________________________________________________
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Control system bearings>>> What are people using for bearings in the control system. For the torquetube I thought some 1" .049 tube would work but seems a bit loose. Couldmachine something down from a thicker tube or look into a buyout part. Curious what others are using.>> Tom B.>>________________________________________________________________________________
>> Pietenpol-List: Control system bearings
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Control system bearings>> >> >> What are people using for bearings in the control system. For the torque> tube I thought some 1" .049 tube would work but seems a bit loose. Could> machine something down from a thicker tube or look into a buyout part. > Curious what others are using.>> >> Tom B.> > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Control system bearings>> >> >> What are people using for bearings in the control system. For the torque> tube I thought some 1" .049 tube would work but seems a bit loose. Could> machine something down from a thicker tube or look into a buyout part. > Curious what others are using.>> >> Tom B.> > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________