Original Posted By: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB"
Hello all,I'm Jim - originally British and now nestled up here in Canada. Perhaps I shouldbe joining a ski forum?!I was 99.9999% to biting the bullet on a Zenith CH750 kit, but then I was at AirVenturethis year and saw the Pietenpol. Well, it was like the first time I sawmy now wife.That's when the fence presented itself and I'm currently sat on it.It looks as if the Piet community is very supportive, so I thought I'd drop by,say hello and see if I'm 'welcome'?!I could easily be swayed in my decision and I don't think anything would beat theopen cockpit and vintage feel of a Piet. It's tough. Convince me!All the best,Jim.--------Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the ground....Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: New User & Potential Addict...
Pietenpol-List: Re: New User & Potential Addict...
Original Posted By: "BritishJim"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New User & Potential Addict... UNCLASSIFIEDgo get a flight in each one. The Piet is as close to a flying motorcycle as I havefound. Steve dOn 09/10/13, BritishJim wrote:> > Hello all,> > I'm Jim - originally British and now nestled up here in Canada. Perhaps I shouldbe joining a ski forum?!> > I was 99.9999% to biting the bullet on a Zenith CH750 kit, but then I was atAirVenture this year and saw the Pietenpol. Well, it was like the first time Isaw my now wife.> > That's when the fence presented itself and I'm currently sat on it.> > It looks as if the Piet community is very supportive, so I thought I'd drop by,say hello and see if I'm 'welcome'?!> > I could easily be swayed in my decision and I don't think anything would beatthe open cockpit and vintage feel of a Piet. > > It's tough. Convince me!> > All the best,> Jim.> > --------> Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the ground....> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 401#408401> > > > > > > UNCLASSIFIED________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New User & Potential Addict...
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New User & Potential Addict... UNCLASSIFIEDgo get a flight in each one. The Piet is as close to a flying motorcycle as I havefound. Steve dOn 09/10/13, BritishJim wrote:> > Hello all,> > I'm Jim - originally British and now nestled up here in Canada. Perhaps I shouldbe joining a ski forum?!> > I was 99.9999% to biting the bullet on a Zenith CH750 kit, but then I was atAirVenture this year and saw the Pietenpol. Well, it was like the first time Isaw my now wife.> > That's when the fence presented itself and I'm currently sat on it.> > It looks as if the Piet community is very supportive, so I thought I'd drop by,say hello and see if I'm 'welcome'?!> > I could easily be swayed in my decision and I don't think anything would beatthe open cockpit and vintage feel of a Piet. > > It's tough. Convince me!> > All the best,> Jim.> > --------> Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the ground....> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 401#408401> > > > > > > UNCLASSIFIED________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New User & Potential Addict...
Original Posted By: "Charles Burkholder"
Before I forget...I've got a bunch of questions. Is it acceptable for me to compile them into a singlethread?I know some forums have different rules and I don't want to violate protocol!Jim.--------Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the ground....Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Before I forget...I've got a bunch of questions. Is it acceptable for me to compile them into a singlethread?I know some forums have different rules and I don't want to violate protocol!Jim.--------Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the ground....Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New User & Potential Addict...
Original Posted By: "BritishJim"
Bring them on Jim. There's a ton of helpful and smart people on this list...Charles----- Original Message -----
Bring them on Jim. There's a ton of helpful and smart people on this list...Charles----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: New User & Potential Addict...
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Hi Jim,Let me add my welcome to those you've already gotten, and emphasize againhow warm and friendly this forum is compared to some others. I'm building(well, not at the moment, but will return eventualy to) an RV-10, and I'm onthat forum as well, mostly as a lurker. What a difference betweenPietenpeople and RV'ers! Many on the RV-10 list spend a lot of timecomplaining about the quality of Van's kits (which I find to be incrediblyhigh quality), and whining about which dual EFIS glass panel they shouldinstall. I find very little experimentation or new ideas floating around onthat forum. On the Pietenpol forum, although you will constantly here"Build it to the plans", most of us have made a modification or two to fitour own needs - some mods more effective than others.If you don't already own them, buy a set of the Tony Bingelis books from EAA- you will find they answer many of your questions about how to build anairplane from scratch.What kind of flying experience do you have? Are you a current pilot? Doyou have tailwheel experience? Understand that the Pietenpol flies likewhat it is - a 1929 design. The plane that flies most like it (that I haveflown, anyway) is probably a Piper J-3 Cub. The Piet is blind in forwardvisibility on landing (and at all other times, if powered by a Model A witha radiator sitting smack in the middle of your forward vision), and requiresa lot of rudder to counteract the adverse yaw of its less than spectacularailerons. It is also more fun to fly than just about any other airplane Ihave flown.Building from scratch is totally different from kit-building, in that YOUget to make all the decisions, such as what engine to use, what type oflanding gear, one-piece or 3-piece wing, what covering system, what paintsystem, etc. Again, I'm about halfway through building an RV-10 and I findit to just be tedious assembly work. The factory got to do all the funstuff, fabricating components. I found the build process on the Pietenpolto be very enjoyable by comparison.So welcome to the world of Pietenpols! It's hard to beat open cockpitflying, although in Canada you might find something with an enclosed cockpitand a heater a bit more comfortable.Good luck with your decision.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
Hi Jim,Let me add my welcome to those you've already gotten, and emphasize againhow warm and friendly this forum is compared to some others. I'm building(well, not at the moment, but will return eventualy to) an RV-10, and I'm onthat forum as well, mostly as a lurker. What a difference betweenPietenpeople and RV'ers! Many on the RV-10 list spend a lot of timecomplaining about the quality of Van's kits (which I find to be incrediblyhigh quality), and whining about which dual EFIS glass panel they shouldinstall. I find very little experimentation or new ideas floating around onthat forum. On the Pietenpol forum, although you will constantly here"Build it to the plans", most of us have made a modification or two to fitour own needs - some mods more effective than others.If you don't already own them, buy a set of the Tony Bingelis books from EAA- you will find they answer many of your questions about how to build anairplane from scratch.What kind of flying experience do you have? Are you a current pilot? Doyou have tailwheel experience? Understand that the Pietenpol flies likewhat it is - a 1929 design. The plane that flies most like it (that I haveflown, anyway) is probably a Piper J-3 Cub. The Piet is blind in forwardvisibility on landing (and at all other times, if powered by a Model A witha radiator sitting smack in the middle of your forward vision), and requiresa lot of rudder to counteract the adverse yaw of its less than spectacularailerons. It is also more fun to fly than just about any other airplane Ihave flown.Building from scratch is totally different from kit-building, in that YOUget to make all the decisions, such as what engine to use, what type oflanding gear, one-piece or 3-piece wing, what covering system, what paintsystem, etc. Again, I'm about halfway through building an RV-10 and I findit to just be tedious assembly work. The factory got to do all the funstuff, fabricating components. I found the build process on the Pietenpolto be very enjoyable by comparison.So welcome to the world of Pietenpols! It's hard to beat open cockpitflying, although in Canada you might find something with an enclosed cockpitand a heater a bit more comfortable.Good luck with your decision.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: New User & Potential Addict...
Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
Well said jack, gardinerSent from my iPadOn Sep 11, 2013, at 10:57 AM, "Jack Phillips" wrote:> Hi Jim,> > Let me add my welcome to those you've already gotten, and emphasize again how warm and friendly this forum is compared to some others. I'm building (well, not at the moment, but will return eventualy to) an RV-10, and I'm on that forum as well, mostly as a lurker. What a difference between Pietenpeople and RV'ers! Many on the RV-10 list spend a lot of time complaining about the quality of Van's kits (which I find to be incredibly high quality), and whining about which dual EFIS glass panel they should install. I find very little experimentation or new ideas floating around on that forum. On the Pietenpol forum, although you will constantly here "Build it to the plans", most of us have made a modification or two to fit our own needs - some mods more effective than others.> > If you don't already own them, buy a set of the Tony Bingelis books from EAA - you will find they answer many of your questions about how to build an airplane from scratch.> > What kind of flying experience do you have? Are you a current pilot? Do you have tailwheel experience? Understand that the Pietenpol flies like what it is =93 a 1929 design. The plane that flies most like it (that I have flown, anyway) is probably a Piper J-3 Cub. The Piet is blind in forward visibility on landing (and at all other times, if powered by a Model A with a radiator sitting smack in the middle of your forward vision), and requires a lot of rudder to counteract the adverse yaw of its less than spectacular ailerons. It is also more fun to fly than just about any other airplane I have flown.> > Building from scratch is totally different from kit-building, in that YOU get to make all the decisions, such as what engine to use, what type of landing gear, one-piece or 3-piece wing, what covering system, what paint system, etc. Again, I=99m about halfway through building an RV-10 and I find it to just be tedious assembly work. The factory got to do all the fun stuff, fabricating components. I found the build process on the Pietenpol to be very enjoyable by comparison.> > So welcome to the world of Pietenpols! It=99s hard to beat open cockpit flying, although in Canada you might find something with an enclosed cockpit and a heater a bit more comfortable.> > Good luck with your decision.> > Jack Phillips> NX899JP> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia> > -----Original Message-----
Well said jack, gardinerSent from my iPadOn Sep 11, 2013, at 10:57 AM, "Jack Phillips" wrote:> Hi Jim,> > Let me add my welcome to those you've already gotten, and emphasize again how warm and friendly this forum is compared to some others. I'm building (well, not at the moment, but will return eventualy to) an RV-10, and I'm on that forum as well, mostly as a lurker. What a difference between Pietenpeople and RV'ers! Many on the RV-10 list spend a lot of time complaining about the quality of Van's kits (which I find to be incredibly high quality), and whining about which dual EFIS glass panel they should install. I find very little experimentation or new ideas floating around on that forum. On the Pietenpol forum, although you will constantly here "Build it to the plans", most of us have made a modification or two to fit our own needs - some mods more effective than others.> > If you don't already own them, buy a set of the Tony Bingelis books from EAA - you will find they answer many of your questions about how to build an airplane from scratch.> > What kind of flying experience do you have? Are you a current pilot? Do you have tailwheel experience? Understand that the Pietenpol flies like what it is =93 a 1929 design. The plane that flies most like it (that I have flown, anyway) is probably a Piper J-3 Cub. The Piet is blind in forward visibility on landing (and at all other times, if powered by a Model A with a radiator sitting smack in the middle of your forward vision), and requires a lot of rudder to counteract the adverse yaw of its less than spectacular ailerons. It is also more fun to fly than just about any other airplane I have flown.> > Building from scratch is totally different from kit-building, in that YOU get to make all the decisions, such as what engine to use, what type of landing gear, one-piece or 3-piece wing, what covering system, what paint system, etc. Again, I=99m about halfway through building an RV-10 and I find it to just be tedious assembly work. The factory got to do all the fun stuff, fabricating components. I found the build process on the Pietenpol to be very enjoyable by comparison.> > So welcome to the world of Pietenpols! It=99s hard to beat open cockpit flying, although in Canada you might find something with an enclosed cockpit and a heater a bit more comfortable.> > Good luck with your decision.> > Jack Phillips> NX899JP> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia> > -----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: New User & Potential Addict...
Original Posted By: "BritishJim"
Thank you!Great advice. Your warm welcome is much appreciated.Jim.--------Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the ground....Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New User & Potential Addict...
Thank you!Great advice. Your warm welcome is much appreciated.Jim.--------Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the ground....Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New User & Potential Addict...
Pietenpol-List: Re: New User & Potential Addict...
Original Posted By: "BritishJim"
Hi Bill,Hello; great to meet you!I'm in London, so I'll blank next Fathers day off on the calendar. We have no kidsand my own Dad is 3,000 miles away back in the UK. See you there!Jim.--------Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the ground....Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New User & Potential Addict...
Hi Bill,Hello; great to meet you!I'm in London, so I'll blank next Fathers day off on the calendar. We have no kidsand my own Dad is 3,000 miles away back in the UK. See you there!Jim.--------Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the ground....Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New User & Potential Addict...
Original Posted By: "Peter W Johnson"
Great to meet you all.My only licensed experience is with gliders - 130 hours back in the UK. I'm certainlyused to stick and rudder work. So that's two fun challenges - building the Piet and getting the license!--------Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the ground....Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Great to meet you all.My only licensed experience is with gliders - 130 hours back in the UK. I'm certainlyused to stick and rudder work. So that's two fun challenges - building the Piet and getting the license!--------Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the ground....Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: New User & Potential Addict...
Original Posted By: "BritishJim"
Jim, let me add my welcome. This is a great group, both the 'virtual' group from this list-serve, and those on the list I've met in person. Best of luck with your addiction. I built a Pietenpol over 11 years - it could have been a lot less but life intervened. I also got my start flying gliders, and your experience with them will be a good foundation. Both gliders and Pietenpols are 'rudder' aircraft. I look forward to hearing of your progress.Matt PaxtonNX629MLFairfield, VA Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New User & Potential Addict...
Jim, let me add my welcome. This is a great group, both the 'virtual' group from this list-serve, and those on the list I've met in person. Best of luck with your addiction. I built a Pietenpol over 11 years - it could have been a lot less but life intervened. I also got my start flying gliders, and your experience with them will be a good foundation. Both gliders and Pietenpols are 'rudder' aircraft. I look forward to hearing of your progress.Matt PaxtonNX629MLFairfield, VA Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New User & Potential Addict...