Original Posted By: "bender"
OK, will see how my schedule turns out. Thanks!--------JohnRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: new engine
Pietenpol-List: new engine
Pietenpol-List: Re: new engine
Original Posted By: "TriScout"
well I've been working on converting from an A to an A-65..here is what I've been doing..BTW I'm just under 600 lbs now.. and I moved my EWCG forward an inchjeff faith sdfRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/a651 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: new engine
well I've been working on converting from an A to an A-65..here is what I've been doing..BTW I'm just under 600 lbs now.. and I moved my EWCG forward an inchjeff faith sdfRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/a651 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: new engine
Pietenpol-List: Re: new engine
Original Posted By: "Don Emch"
That's awesome, and a very good looking machine. Just think...you can now fly 2hrsaway for lunch, and fly back, as if you're in a 172. No tinkering, no worriesall year long. I pop the cowl off once or twice/year and she's clean as awhistle...and it always starts w/in 3 swings of the prop. Also liking the 2300rpm's for a red line...still very antique-like. Not knocking other's choicesof powerplants(disclaimer), but sure dig the good old bulletproof A65's
--------KLNCA65-8N2308CAN HardwareAirframe 724TTW72CK-42 SensenichStandard Factory GN-1Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: new engine
That's awesome, and a very good looking machine. Just think...you can now fly 2hrsaway for lunch, and fly back, as if you're in a 172. No tinkering, no worriesall year long. I pop the cowl off once or twice/year and she's clean as awhistle...and it always starts w/in 3 swings of the prop. Also liking the 2300rpm's for a red line...still very antique-like. Not knocking other's choicesof powerplants(disclaimer), but sure dig the good old bulletproof A65's
--------KLNCA65-8N2308CAN HardwareAirframe 724TTW72CK-42 SensenichStandard Factory GN-1Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: new enginePietenpol-List: Re: new engine
Original Posted By: "bender"
Jeff,Beautiful prop, did you carve it? Obviously oak, what size? Have you tried it,yet? I really admire the "cowling", very neat and clean.Thanks for the pics,Ray Krause,Building SkyScoutSent from my iPad> On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:42 PM, "bender" wrote:> > > well I've been working on converting from an A to an A-65..> here is what I've been doing..> > BTW I'm just under 600 lbs now.. and I moved my EWCG forward an inch> > jeff faith > > sdf> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 796#430796> > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/a651_551.jpg> http://forums.matronics.com//files/a65_190.jpg> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: new engine
Jeff,Beautiful prop, did you carve it? Obviously oak, what size? Have you tried it,yet? I really admire the "cowling", very neat and clean.Thanks for the pics,Ray Krause,Building SkyScoutSent from my iPad> On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:42 PM, "bender" wrote:> > > well I've been working on converting from an A to an A-65..> here is what I've been doing..> > BTW I'm just under 600 lbs now.. and I moved my EWCG forward an inch> > jeff faith > > sdf> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 796#430796> > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/a651_551.jpg> http://forums.matronics.com//files/a65_190.jpg> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: new engine
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
I carved the prop out of ash. . Following Dan Helspers instructions. I'm headingover to see if it'll start today. JeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I carved the prop out of ash. . Following Dan Helspers instructions. I'm headingover to see if it'll start today. JeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: new engine
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Beautiful, single piece of ash?Thanks, And it will run just fine. Don't forget to safety wire the carb bolts,if you haven't. I had to check yours because I'm trying to do mine right now,not easy! Love your crush plate, I have to make one. Not sure what happenedto the one for my engine. I have the prop, spinner, bolts and everything butthe crush plate. I have a friend who can probably make one on his CNC millingmachine.Let us know how it runs. What mags are you running?Ray KrauseSent from my iPad> On Sep 20, 2014, at 7:28 AM, "bender" wrote:> > > I carved the prop out of ash. . Following Dan Helspers instructions. I'm headingover to see if it'll start today. > > Jeff> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 821#430821> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: new engine
Beautiful, single piece of ash?Thanks, And it will run just fine. Don't forget to safety wire the carb bolts,if you haven't. I had to check yours because I'm trying to do mine right now,not easy! Love your crush plate, I have to make one. Not sure what happenedto the one for my engine. I have the prop, spinner, bolts and everything butthe crush plate. I have a friend who can probably make one on his CNC millingmachine.Let us know how it runs. What mags are you running?Ray KrauseSent from my iPad> On Sep 20, 2014, at 7:28 AM, "bender" wrote:> > > I carved the prop out of ash. . Following Dan Helspers instructions. I'm headingover to see if it'll start today. > > Jeff> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 821#430821> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: new engine
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: new engine
Original Posted By: jim hyde
Oscar,Thanks for the lead on the Continental "crush" plate replica from Wag-Aero. Nowwe can all copy you! I had seen your crush plate before and admired it.The shield on the mags did not work. I even insulated the shield around the p leadterminal, but it still shorted out and made the engine lose power. And, itdid not stop the radio noise, maybe just a little better. Now I have tried everything,maybe time for some Slick mags. Just another $1600! But thanks to youand your friend for all the help. The only thing I have not tried is a good,isolated antenna.Thanks again,Ray KrauseSent from my iPad> On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:57 PM, "taildrags" wrote:> > > She's a beauty, Jeff. A real beauty. The external aileron cables sure makepreflight inspection easy, and so does the abbreviated cowling that pretty muchputs the entire engine out there where you can look at everything. I've gotto agree with Ray or whoever it was who mentioned safetying the carb it takesmore time to safety everything on a Stromberg than it does to rebuild one ;o)> > I just put another 1.0 on Scout this afternoon and like you said with yours, my A75 fired up on the third blade and never missed a beat. We had 99 degrees this afternoon and the oil temp got up to about 195 in the climb to 3000', but the engine is dry as a bone (except for a slight drip from one of the rocker cover gaskets and a couple of drops from the breather after I park) and everything is smooth. For my crush plate I just had my machinist buddy turn a disc from 1/4" aluminum stock and drill for the AN6 bolts, then I sandwiched a replica Continental Motors plate between the bolt heads and crush plate (got it from Wag-Aero) and safetied after torqueing. You can see it at http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/engine/A75.html> > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 850#430850> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 20:15:40 -0700
Oscar,Thanks for the lead on the Continental "crush" plate replica from Wag-Aero. Nowwe can all copy you! I had seen your crush plate before and admired it.The shield on the mags did not work. I even insulated the shield around the p leadterminal, but it still shorted out and made the engine lose power. And, itdid not stop the radio noise, maybe just a little better. Now I have tried everything,maybe time for some Slick mags. Just another $1600! But thanks to youand your friend for all the help. The only thing I have not tried is a good,isolated antenna.Thanks again,Ray KrauseSent from my iPad> On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:57 PM, "taildrags" wrote:> > > She's a beauty, Jeff. A real beauty. The external aileron cables sure makepreflight inspection easy, and so does the abbreviated cowling that pretty muchputs the entire engine out there where you can look at everything. I've gotto agree with Ray or whoever it was who mentioned safetying the carb it takesmore time to safety everything on a Stromberg than it does to rebuild one ;o)> > I just put another 1.0 on Scout this afternoon and like you said with yours, my A75 fired up on the third blade and never missed a beat. We had 99 degrees this afternoon and the oil temp got up to about 195 in the climb to 3000', but the engine is dry as a bone (except for a slight drip from one of the rocker cover gaskets and a couple of drops from the breather after I park) and everything is smooth. For my crush plate I just had my machinist buddy turn a disc from 1/4" aluminum stock and drill for the AN6 bolts, then I sandwiched a replica Continental Motors plate between the bolt heads and crush plate (got it from Wag-Aero) and safetied after torqueing. You can see it at http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/engine/A75.html> > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 850#430850> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 20:15:40 -0700
Pietenpol-List: Re: new engine
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
I actually just got mine Friday. 4130 ones as close as you can get to the sizeson the plans these days. You might check AED Motorsport in Indianapolis Indiana.That is who I deal with all the time. They have a lot better quality thanSpruce and they even said they have been straightening some pieces for Spruce.All there tubing is USA or from Germany. Nothing from China which is what youget most of the time from other suppliers. The Germany tubing is even better.It welds really nice and better than any other tubing. They are very knowledgableand can even give you certification papers if you need then. They make thestreamline there, and will make it and ship it immediately. The cabane pieceswere $284.20 ( I went with .049 but they can make in .035) and wing strutswere $913.92. ( .049)The drops from the wing struts ( left over 1 3/4 tube theyused are sent to you )were $95.28. It's cheaper for you to just buy and keep.You can call and ask for Dave Gordon 317-334-0569 Have dealt with Carlson andalso good to deal with and good quality but have never used any on a Piet. Theseare just some of my opinions.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: new engine
I actually just got mine Friday. 4130 ones as close as you can get to the sizeson the plans these days. You might check AED Motorsport in Indianapolis Indiana.That is who I deal with all the time. They have a lot better quality thanSpruce and they even said they have been straightening some pieces for Spruce.All there tubing is USA or from Germany. Nothing from China which is what youget most of the time from other suppliers. The Germany tubing is even better.It welds really nice and better than any other tubing. They are very knowledgableand can even give you certification papers if you need then. They make thestreamline there, and will make it and ship it immediately. The cabane pieceswere $284.20 ( I went with .049 but they can make in .035) and wing strutswere $913.92. ( .049)The drops from the wing struts ( left over 1 3/4 tube theyused are sent to you )were $95.28. It's cheaper for you to just buy and keep.You can call and ask for Dave Gordon 317-334-0569 Have dealt with Carlson andalso good to deal with and good quality but have never used any on a Piet. Theseare just some of my opinions.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: new engine
Pietenpol-List: Re: new engine
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Wheelharp,Knew you made that mistake, but this Piet forum does not 'HARP' on people for thesesmall imperefections..(like my typing)We are glad you are in the forum.--------Bob 'Early Builder' DewenterDayton OHRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: new engine
Wheelharp,Knew you made that mistake, but this Piet forum does not 'HARP' on people for thesesmall imperefections..(like my typing)We are glad you are in the forum.--------Bob 'Early Builder' DewenterDayton OHRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: new engine
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
Ray;Yes, the tapered shaft hub will use a crush plate on the front of the prop. Here'swhat the one on my A65 looked like:http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/CEA_Pi ... -----Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Ray;Yes, the tapered shaft hub will use a crush plate on the front of the prop. Here'swhat the one on my A65 looked like:http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/CEA_Pi ... -----Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: new engine
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Thanks Oscar! Guess I did not get the crush plate with the setup. I set the propon the shaft this afternoon and can see where the crush plate had been. GuessI will make one.RaySent from my iPad> On Sep 21, 2014, at 8:14 PM, taildrags wrote:> > > Ray;> > Yes, the tapered shaft hub will use a crush plate on the front of the prop. Here's what the one on my A65 looked like:> > http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/CEA_Piet04.jpg> > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 900#430900> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: new engine
Thanks Oscar! Guess I did not get the crush plate with the setup. I set the propon the shaft this afternoon and can see where the crush plate had been. GuessI will make one.RaySent from my iPad> On Sep 21, 2014, at 8:14 PM, taildrags wrote:> > > Ray;> > Yes, the tapered shaft hub will use a crush plate on the front of the prop. Here's what the one on my A65 looked like:> > http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/CEA_Piet04.jpg> > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 900#430900> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: new engine
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
Ray; the crush plate on my A65 was made of steel and it appeared to be a sub-partof the hub assembly. The objective is to have all of the bolts apply forceevenly to the face of the wooden prop so the wood doesn't crush in the immediatearea of the bolt head, so if you make a new one out of aluminum (or steel),don't make it too thin or it will flex when you torque the bolts down. In fact,the best thing to do is to see if you can find another airplane with a taperedshaft and crush plate on it, then use that as a go-by.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Ray; the crush plate on my A65 was made of steel and it appeared to be a sub-partof the hub assembly. The objective is to have all of the bolts apply forceevenly to the face of the wooden prop so the wood doesn't crush in the immediatearea of the bolt head, so if you make a new one out of aluminum (or steel),don't make it too thin or it will flex when you torque the bolts down. In fact,the best thing to do is to see if you can find another airplane with a taperedshaft and crush plate on it, then use that as a go-by.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________